Castro

[apete6]

can we be mildly encouraged by castro's .308/.368/.500 july?

 

Absolutely.

 

If he puts up 300/360/450 the rest of the way, his numbers will be in the .265/.310/390 range overall for the year, finishing with a .700 OPS.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Who cares what his final line is if he puts up .300/.360/.450 the rest of the way?

[apete6]

Who cares what his final line is if he puts up .300/.360/.450 the rest of the way?

 

No one, probably, but that will show how absolutely putrid his first part of the season was. To have a .810 OPS over roughly 70 games and still finish at or below .700 OPS for the season is tough to do. Also, if he weren't locked up in a long term deal, it would have helped the Cubs arbitration case immensely.

[Guest]

For reference, there are currently 8 qualified SS(out of 20) that have an OPS above .700

[The-Kris-Bryant]

For reference, there are currently 8 qualified SS(out of 20) that have an OPS above .700

 

Yes, but .700 is a lot higher than .632. Keep in mind not a single qualified shortstop had an OPS below .644 last year (out of 19).

 

Not trying to say Castro won't bounce back, but anyone can mince numbers to make their point if they try hard enough.

[Guest]

still at .318/.366/.485 for july

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yay, all better.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yesterday felt like the good ol' days. More, please.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

-0.1 fWAR and closing.

[Guest]

.313/.365/.458 with almost all of July in the books now. 104 PA. 5.8% BB rate, 20.2% K rate.

[treebird]

.313/.365/.458 with almost all of July in the books now. 104 PA. 5.8% BB rate, 20.2% K rate.

 

it would be okay with me if starlin kept that line going for the next, say, 7000 plate appearances or so

[Guest]

.313/.365/.458 with almost all of July in the books now. 104 PA. 5.8% BB rate, 20.2% K rate.

 

it would be okay with me if starlin kept that line going for the next, say, 7000 plate appearances or so

 

Yeah. I'd take that and average defense and laugh all the way to the bank.

[Sammy Sofa]

.313/.365/.458 with almost all of July in the books now. 104 PA. 5.8% BB rate, 20.2% K rate.

 

A less impressive (but not so bad) .284 .333 .413 .746 going in to tonight's game. But...

 

.246 .283 .298 .582 the last two weeks

 

.207 .233 .241 .475 the last week.

[MWV]

July is officially in the books (121 PA): .292/.339/.442, 7.3 BB%, 19 K%

Starlin's previous 3 seasons (1912 PA): .297/.336/.425, 5.2 BB%, 14 K%

[Thed Hoyerstein]

July is officially in the books (121 PA): .292/.339/.442, 7.3 BB%, 19 K%

Starlin's previous 3 seasons (1912 PA): .297/.336/.425, 5.2 BB%, 14 K%

 

K's are still high- is that a result of being more patient and working into deeper counts?

[Cubswin11]

July is officially in the books (121 PA): .292/.339/.442, 7.3 BB%, 19 K%

Starlin's previous 3 seasons (1912 PA): .297/.336/.425, 5.2 BB%, 14 K%

 

K's are still high- is that a result of being more patient and working into deeper counts?

Yes, that's typically an effect of taking more walks/seeing more pitches.

 

A 19% k rate isn't all that high, especially if Castro can stay between 7-8% on the BB%, obviously we'd like to see him more around 10%+ BB rate but I can live with Castro being a 7-8% BB rate guy with a 20% or less K rate moving forward.

[rawaction]

I don't think he's a 20% K guy. That number will go down toward his career norms as he gets more comfortable with this approach. BBs may not be ever more than 8% or so, and I'm OK with that.

[Guest]

I used to dream on this line for Castro at his peak: 310/380/520

 

Now I'm not sure I see an isoD of more than .50 or an isoP of more than .180 :/

[XZero771679666304]

I used to dream on this line for Castro at his peak: 310/380/520

 

Now I'm not sure I see an isoD of more than .50 or an isoP of more than .180 :/

 

I really think the power is in there somewhere. I think a future ISO of .200+ is realistic.

[apete6]

Castro looked like a bag of [expletive] last night. Some of the worst at bats he's had in weeks.

[Sammy Sofa]

July is officially in the books (121 PA): .292/.339/.442, 7.3 BB%, 19 K%

Starlin's previous 3 seasons (1912 PA): .297/.336/.425, 5.2 BB%, 14 K%

 

Obviously I'd be happy if he could just put those numbers up consistently again, but it's also kinda disappointing that his "awesome rebound July" is ultimately just the same numbers he's put up before with a bit of an uptick in his walk rate. This is now his fourth year in the league and even when he's seemingly at his best his numbers aren't really improving beyond what a lot of us assumed/hoped was just a prelude of what was to come.

[Guest]

That line is consistent with a 3 win pace. Let's go back a few years and find guys 23 years old or younger who had 3+ fWAR in any season between 2004 and 2008:

 

Grady Sizemore

Miguel Cabrera

Joe Mauer

Jose Reyes

David Wright

Evan Longoria

Hanley Ramirez

Troy Tulowitzki

Carl Crawford

Ryan Zimmerman

Carl Crawford

Prince Fielder

B.J. Upton

Jhonny Peralta

Nick Markakis

Hank Blalock

Ryan Zimmerman

Dustin Pedroia

Jeff Francoeur

Matt Kemp

[Sammy Sofa]

Like I said, I'd be happy if that was what he maintained going forward, but come on, how many of us were looking at that as effectively being his ceiling? Yes, I get that he's so young, but this is, again, going on four seasons now where his "best" seems to result in some VERY similar numbers. What are the odds a player just suddenly jumps past something like that when they've been going along just showing minimal improvement for so long?

[Guest]

Like I said, I'd be happy if that was what he maintained going forward, but come on, how many of us were looking at that as effectively being his ceiling? Yes, I get that he's so young, but this is, again, going on four seasons now where his "best" seems to result in some VERY similar numbers. What are the odds a player just suddenly jumps past something like that when they've been going along just showing minimal improvement for so long?

 

At a quick glance, his examples are a bunch of guys who performed similarly and mostly hadn't hit their ceilings at his age...

[abuck1220]

the lack of power is concerning. even with his meh 2012, he hit 14 hr. aren't we all hoping he will develop into a 20+ hr guy?