College Basketball 2013-2014

[Exile on Waveland]

Rumors true: Remy Abell transferring. IU is down to one player that can even remotely be called a ball-handler (and I don't mean one point guard, I mean one ball-handler)..

 

Which probably means Crean isn't done recruiting 13' right?

 

Nope. He's still recruiting Jaren Sina (who decomitted from Northwestern). He would likely help . . . and then in a couple years probably be in a similar position to Abell (fringe-ish rotation player, possible transfer).

 

That or Crean is one step closer to his dream roster of one point guard, one center, and eleven wings (OK, OK, fifteen wings).

[snoodmonger]

Some encouraging reports from the Jordan Classic. 7'0" Jojo Embiid is being described as the breakout star. Wayne Selden is also standing out after a strong showing at the McDonald's game. And Conner Frankamp has one of the purest strokes I've seen. I know it's a pipedream, but if we could nab Wiggins, we'd be dangerous.

[SouthSideRyan]

I thought Wiggins was UK or FSU

[illiniguy]

I thought Wiggins was UK or FSU

Twitter says FSU. Which means he's UKs.

[UMFan83]

Yahoo Sports reports: Michigan sophomore guard Trey Burke will enter the NBA draft, sources said. An announcement is planned for Sunday.

[snoodmonger]

I thought Wiggins was UK or FSU

 

Depends on who you listen to. I'm guessing its UK.

[illiniguy]

I thought Wiggins was UK or FSU

 

Depends on who you listen to. I'm guessing its UK.

It's fsu

[abuck1220]

Aaron Cosby is transferring to Illinois. Amazing pickup.

 

damn I wanted him.

[E.J.]

Yahoo Sports reports: Michigan sophomore guard Trey Burke will enter the NBA draft, sources said. An announcement is planned for Sunday.

 

Burke made his announcement to enter the draft. Not surprising at all.

[sneakypower]

http://mgoblog.com/sites/mgoblog.com/files/images/91ecf66cea19_BCBD/8638275137_c0b7aa8754_o1_thumb.gif

 

gonna miss him

[fiver]

Rumors true: Remy Abell transferring. IU is down to one player that can even remotely be called a ball-handler (and I don't mean one point guard, I mean one ball-handler)..

 

Which probably means Crean isn't done recruiting 13' right?

 

Nope. He's still recruiting Jaren Sina (who decomitted from Northwestern). He would likely help . . . and then in a couple years probably be in a similar position to Abell (fringe-ish rotation player, possible transfer).

 

That or Crean is one step closer to his dream roster of one point guard, one center, and eleven wings (OK, OK, fifteen wings).

 

I must be missing something. I thought Abell was the top candidate to start at the 2 guard next year and at very least would have played much more than he did this year. Why is he really leaving?

[rawaction]

Rumors true: Remy Abell transferring. IU is down to one player that can even remotely be called a ball-handler (and I don't mean one point guard, I mean one ball-handler)..

 

Which probably means Crean isn't done recruiting 13' right?

 

Nope. He's still recruiting Jaren Sina (who decomitted from Northwestern). He would likely help . . . and then in a couple years probably be in a similar position to Abell (fringe-ish rotation player, possible transfer).

 

That or Crean is one step closer to his dream roster of one point guard, one center, and eleven wings (OK, OK, fifteen wings).

 

I must be missing something. I thought Abell was the top candidate to start at the 2 guard next year and at very least would have played much more than he did this year. Why is he really leaving?

 

He wouldn't be starting I don't think. My guess is Stanford Robinson would be either way. I'm guessing pt would have been similar next year. Which he got in every game and got acceptable minutes for his talent level.

[Exile on Waveland]

Rumors true: Remy Abell transferring. IU is down to one player that can even remotely be called a ball-handler (and I don't mean one point guard, I mean one ball-handler)..

 

Which probably means Crean isn't done recruiting 13' right?

 

Nope. He's still recruiting Jaren Sina (who decomitted from Northwestern). He would likely help . . . and then in a couple years probably be in a similar position to Abell (fringe-ish rotation player, possible transfer).

 

That or Crean is one step closer to his dream roster of one point guard, one center, and eleven wings (OK, OK, fifteen wings).

 

I must be missing something. I thought Abell was the top candidate to start at the 2 guard next year and at very least would have played much more than he did this year. Why is he really leaving?

 

I think he might have started early in the season, but I doubt for very long. He's a solid player, but it would have been a surprise, to me, if he held off the younger, more talented players all year. He was, however, going to be heavily in the rotation as the second ball-handler and third-guard. He played 12.5 minutes per game last year and that number would have at least gone up to sixteen, probably more like twenty. His departure is a blow, but if he really wanted to start, that was not going to happen at IU.

 

As for the starting lineup, it may be a bit awkward because the best five players are not going to easily fit into the starting five positions--both because of ball-handling and interior play. As it stands right now, the best four players on the team are Ferrell-Sheehey-Vonleh-Hollowell (edit: not in order). Crean will have to decide if he plays Sheehey at shooting guard (I think more likely than not, as of now), and/or if he starts Perea/Fischer at center because you need a center, or just starts a small, athletic team (inserting whichever other freshman, Robinson or Williams, is more ready to play). I could also see a situation where Crean is a slave to positions and doesn't have Hollowell start, only to sub him in almost immediately and play most the game anyway (this is something you see with many coaches, inexplicably).

[Smack]

Final 2013 Rivals 150 rankings are out, I think I got all the B1G recruits listed:

 

5 Stars

#8 Vonleh (IU)

 

4 Stars

#24 Irvin (Michigan)

#37 Walton (Michigan)

#47 Williams (IU)

#56 Robinson (IU)

#60 Nunn (Illinois)

#61 Stephens (Purdue)

#62 Hill (Illinois)

#67 Loving (Ohio State)

#73 Koenig (Wisconsin)

#75 Scott (Purdue)

#79 Williams (Ohio State)

#94 Fischer (IU)

#97 Colbert (Illinois)

#111 Donnal (Michigan)

#112 Smotherman (Purdue)

 

3 Stars

#125 Schilling (Michigan State)

#127 Davis (Indiana)

 

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2752;_ylt=AvdmwHEG050rCyAF.Z1r8wvwOrF_

[rawaction]

Rumors true: Remy Abell transferring. IU is down to one player that can even remotely be called a ball-handler (and I don't mean one point guard, I mean one ball-handler)..

 

Which probably means Crean isn't done recruiting 13' right?

 

Nope. He's still recruiting Jaren Sina (who decomitted from Northwestern). He would likely help . . . and then in a couple years probably be in a similar position to Abell (fringe-ish rotation player, possible transfer).

 

That or Crean is one step closer to his dream roster of one point guard, one center, and eleven wings (OK, OK, fifteen wings).

 

I must be missing something. I thought Abell was the top candidate to start at the 2 guard next year and at very least would have played much more than he did this year. Why is he really leaving?

 

I think he might have started early in the season, but I doubt for very long. He's a solid player, but it would have been a surprise, to me, if he held off the younger, more talented players all year. He was, however, going to be heavily in the rotation as the second ball-handler and third-guard. He played 12.5 minutes per game last year and that number would have at least gone up to sixteen, probably more like twenty. His departure is a blow, but if he really wanted to start, that was not going to happen at IU.

 

As for the starting lineup, it may be a bit awkward because the best five players are not going to easily fit into the starting five positions--both because of ball-handling and interior play. As it stands right now, the best four players on the team are Ferrell-Sheehey-Vonleh-Hollowell (edit: not in order). Crean will have to decide if he plays Sheehey at shooting guard (I think more likely than not, as of now), and/or if he starts Perea/Fischer at center because you need a center, or just starts a small, athletic team (inserting whichever other freshman, Robinson or Williams, is more ready to play). I could also see a situation where Crean is a slave to positions and doesn't have Hollowell start, only to sub him in almost immediately and play most the game anyway (this is something you see with many coaches, inexplicably).

 

My thinking as well. I'm going to guess Robinson starts at the 2. Vonleh and Hollowell start. Yogi is obvious. The only question is if Sheehey wants to start and they go small or if Sheehey stays 6th man and they start Perea.....I like the latter with Hollowell at the 3. Williams is going to have a shot to start too.

[UK1679666180]

I thought Wiggins was UK or FSU

 

Depends on who you listen to. I'm guessing its UK.

It's fsu

 

I can't see him at UK, either. I'm guessing FSU.

[UK1679666180]

No shocker here but Nerlens Noel has declared for the draft.

[Smack]

Anthony Johnson leaving Purdue too. Down to 10 scholarship players for 13'. Painter should sell some spots to Crean.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Marquette's Vander Blue surprisingly entering into the NBA draft. Was a likely preseason favorite for (new) Big East player of the year.

[Cubswin11]

Marquette's Vander Blue surprisingly entering into the NBA draft. Was a likely preseason favorite for (new) Big East player of the year.

Wow, just another indictment on how shitty this years draft is going to be if he's being advised he's a first round pick.

[rawaction]

I kinda like Blue's game. I see him as a late 1st round talent. If not now then after next year.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

I kinda like Blue's game. I see him as a late 1st round talent. If not now then after next year.

 

Sounds like he's not even a first round lock status, but more likely a second rounder. Jeff Goodman was pretty shocked to hear this and could see him possibly not even being drafted.

 

I can see the logic if the player has reached their ceiling, but that doesn't look to the case with Blue.

[Smack]

I kinda like Blue's game. I see him as a late 1st round talent. If not now then after next year.

 

Sounds like he's not even a first round lock status, but more likely a second rounder. Jeff Goodman was pretty shocked to hear this and could see him possibly not even being drafted.

 

I can see the logic if the player has reached their ceiling, but that doesn't look to the case with Blue.

 

Academic issues maybe? Wasn't the rumor as to why he didn't go to Madison?

[Guest]

I kinda like Blue's game. I see him as a late 1st round talent. If not now then after next year.

 

Yeah, I like his game but he's leaving a year early.

 

Of course a lot of guys do and some make it work.

[Cubswin11]

I kinda like Blue's game. I see him as a late 1st round talent. If not now then after next year.

 

Sounds like he's not even a first round lock status, but more likely a second rounder. Jeff Goodman was pretty shocked to hear this and could see him possibly not even being drafted.

 

I can see the logic if the player has reached their ceiling, but that doesn't look to the case with Blue.

 

Academic issues maybe? Wasn't the rumor as to why he didn't go to Madison?

I think it was more style of play, he wanted to be in a more open/fast paced offense