Bears Offseason Thread (Trestman new HC, pg 37)

[Magnetic Curses]

if the packers end up cutting jermichael finley, i'd go with him and take barrettt jones in the first. that guy you can just plug and play at any of the interior line spots and cutler will be able to step up all day.

[Banedon]

@ChicagoBears

 

LM: Cutler on working w/ Trestman in '06: "You could just tell how knowledgeable he was about the QB position and offense in general."

[CubColtPacer]

I really don't like that Trestman has that lame website. But I find this amusing.

 

http://www.coachmarctrestman.com/Buzz-about-Marc.html

 

"I think he's like Bill Walsh, because he's one of those guys that you want to go out and lay it on the line for. He is totally committed, and players are going to want to play for a guy like that!" – Hall of Fame WR Jerry Rice

 

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/081797/1c1rice_.html

The words came at a news conference in January announcing a new head coach of the San Francisco 49ers. A reporter asked owner Eddie DeBartolo about Marc Trestman.

 

''He's gone,'' DeBartolo replied.

 

And somewhere, Jerry Rice smiled. Real, real big.

 

Because if there was anything Rice - the NFL's best wide receiver ever - wanted to hear this past off-season, it was that Trestman - Rice's least favorite offensive coordinator ever - was to be out of a job.

 

''I caught a lot of balls, but it was not a fun year for me,'' said Rice, the NFL's all-time leader in touchdowns, yards receiving and career receptions, who is expected to play extensively in the first half tomorrow night when the Jaguars play the 49ers at 3Com Park in San Francisco in a preseason game. ''I had some doubts in my mind. I was saying, 'Jerry, you've been here for a long time. Maybe it's time to leave, move on.' ''

 

The main problem was how Trestman used Rice, as a possession receiver, an inexplicable tactic for one of the NFL's top deep threats. Trestman's explanation was the 49e

 

That doesn't jive with what Tim Brown said a bit ago on ESPN 1000. Brown didn't like Trestman because he made Rice the #1 receiver over Brown, who thought he was better at that point.

 

Sounds like there was some serious WR ego issues going on there.

 

That is because the article is from the mid 90's when Trestman got fired from San Francisco. Trestman and Rice worked together again in Oakland several years later, which is where the Rice/Brown issue happened. It's also possible that Rice and Trestman developed a better relationship in Oakland than they had in San Francisco, so the quote on the website might not be that strange.

[Ryne Ween]

If we have determined that a 10-6 season is not good enough and 10 years of a mean record of 9-7, 10+ wins 4 times and less than 8 wins 3 times. As a fan ive been engaged for 16 or 17 weeks every year since his first year. Granted our postseason success has not been great, but (and i like Jay) teams that have had more success than the bears over the last 10 years have generally had a long term fanchise QB better than Jay.

 

If you are going to replace a coach that has given you results that Lovie has, he better be a sure-fire winner with an indisputable ability to do the job. Let the Jags hire trestman.

 

Also this new OC was the line coach for Trestman's oakland offense. Im not happy recreating the 2003 oakland staff (which interestingly Jim Harbaugh was on).

[wolf stansson]

If we have determined that a 10-6 season is not good enough

Lovie was fired because he didn't fit Emery's vision for the team, not because 10-6 "is not good enough." The league rewards offense. Lovie proved his ineptitude at hiring and/or overseeing offensive coordinators each and every season he was in charge.

[Magnetic Curses]

If we have determined that a 10-6 season is not good enough and 10 years of a mean record of 9-7, 10+ wins 4 times and less than 8 wins 3 times. As a fan ive been engaged for 16 or 17 weeks every year since his first year. Granted our postseason success has not been great, but (and i like Jay) teams that have had more success than the bears over the last 10 years have generally had a long term fanchise QB better than Jay.

 

If you are going to replace a coach that has given you results that Lovie has, he better be a sure-fire winner with an indisputable ability to do the job. Let the Jags hire trestman.

 

Also this new OC was the line coach for Trestman's oakland offense. Im not happy recreating the 2003 oakland staff (which interestingly Jim Harbaugh was on).

 

but rich gannon won an NFL MVP under trestman. i mean, you can pick and choose what years you pay attention to, but you'll have to allow this guy a chance based on his successes.

 

i'm not entirely optimistic, but come on.

[Ryne Ween]

And Martz' offensive players won 3 straight MVPs. Two of thsoe by a QB that bagged groceries or something the year before.

[Magnetic Curses]

And Martz' offensive players won 3 straight MVPs. Two of thsoe by a QB that bagged groceries or something the year before.

 

yeah, and if martz wasn't a complete ass of a human being with a giant ego, he'd be a head coach today.

[cubbyvirus00]

And Martz' offensive players won 3 straight MVPs. Two of thsoe by a QB that bagged groceries or something the year before.

 

yeah, and if martz wasn't a complete ass of a human being with a giant ego, he'd be a head coach today.

 

True that.

 

 

I'm not jumping to any conclusions about this hire, but I will say that the guy has a good résumé and that the new OC likely was very good at his job previously under Sean Payton and being a part of a Super Bowl coaching staff.

 

I wanted Arians but whatever.

[Magnetic Curses]

it's strange to think that the guy who was the OC of the team that was victimized by "the drive", and a guy that called plays for steve young and jerry rice will be the next HC of the bears.

[Ryne Ween]

yeah, and if martz wasn't a complete ass of a human being with a giant ego, he'd be a head coach today.

 

Im just pointing out that coaching a player to an MVP 10+ years ago isnt a great indicator of success as a Bears coach.

[Magnetic Curses]

yeah, and if martz wasn't a complete ass of a human being with a giant ego, he'd be a head coach today.

 

Im joint pointing out that coaching a player to an MVP 10+ years ago isnt a great indicator of success as a Bears coach.

 

and if he were hired without an interview and without head coaching experience at any level, and strictly based on his success or lack of with the raiders, looking at two years of his career, you'd be correct. but gannon isn't the only qb to have success under trestman, nor are the raiders the only team.

 

head coaches and coordinators aren't a finished product. they frequently adapt to the times, which is why they endure as coaches and coordinators.

[Banedon]

Tomorrow's press conference moved to 11am.

 

Take note UMFan.

[Ryne Ween]

Stop giving this guy credit for Steve Young's success and stop giving him credit for success with a CFL QB who had enjoyed a 15 year celebrated career prior to trestman heading to canada.

 

If Trestman had such a proud track record of success than why, in his entire american football career (cant believe i have to make this distinction), has he never held a job more than 2 years, and why has every single career move he has made (up until Emery hiring him as HC of the Bears) been either lateral or downward?

[Guest]

He was born as an OC?

[wolf stansson]

Stop giving this guy credit for Steve Young's success and stop giving him credit for success with a CFL QB who had enjoyed a 15 year celebrated career prior to trestman heading to canada.

 

If Trestman had such a proud track record of success than why, in his entire american football career (cant believe i have to make this distinction), has he never held a job more than 2 years, and why has every single career move he has made (up until Emery hiring him as HC of the Bears) been either lateral or downward?

Since it's super dumb to argue with you about this because we have no information or context to answer your questions or assuage your doubts, I am curious as to what he would have to accomplish before you conceded he was a good hire. Obviously I'm not saying it was a good or bad hire myself. That's TBD.

 

Not you specifically, but all of the haters out there.

Edited January 16, 2013 by wolf stansson

[Sammy Sofa]

He's probably a sorcerer.

[davell]

i'm sure he'll have an effect on personnel just like lovie had an effect on personnel.

 

Lovie's effect on personnel decisions did not come into play as much until after he made it to the Super Bowl.

New GM, no idea how Emery will handle this.

 

he was the GM last year when the OL needed reform and he did nothing

Sorry for the late response, but 1st year into a regime, with extremely little available in FA and a less than stellar crop in the draft as well. Plus, a likely idea he'd have a new coach/offense in the very near future. He took what was available for the offense- The best WR the team has ever seen and his eventual sidekick that showed plenty of flashes in his time on the field as well. The line is the most important thing needed, he took a year to evaluate the youngsters we had, now we'll see how many changes are made. You can't just conjure up an O-Line. He addressed part of the offense extremely well last offseason, because there were options. Now, he'll do tge rest.

[UMFan83]

Tomorrow's press conference moved to 11am.

 

Take note UMFan.

 

lol thanks. I'll be in Florida by this time tomorrow though so I probably won't be as eager to watch. I trust NSBB will provide quality unbiased feedback based on the discussion since the move was made official.

[SpongeWorthy]

Stop giving this guy credit for Steve Young's success and stop giving him credit for success with a CFL QB who had enjoyed a 15 year celebrated career prior to trestman heading to canada.

 

If Trestman had such a proud track record of success than why, in his entire american football career (cant believe i have to make this distinction), has he never held a job more than 2 years, and why has every single career move he has made (up until Emery hiring him as HC of the Bears) been either lateral or downward?

 

Because Marc Trestman is the Nikola Tesla of football coaches.

[SpongeWorthy]

Is Marc Trestman the first Jewish head coach in the NFL?

[Banedon]

OMFG....

 

How Tim Tebow could end up as a Chicago Bear

[wolf stansson]

Is Marc Trestman the first Jewish head coach in the NFL?

Marv Levy, bruh. Alouttes love the jews!

[SpongeWorthy]

Is Marc Trestman the first Jewish head coach in the NFL?

Marv Levy, bruh. Alouttes love the jews!

 

Just looked it up and Sid Gillman (obviously) predates Levy.

[Banedon]

Is Marc Trestman the first Jewish head coach in the NFL?

Marv Levy, bruh. Alouttes love the jews!

 

Just looked it up and Sid Gillman (obviously) predates Levy.

 

Yeah, and Allie Sherman was another.