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Since it's super dumb to argue with you about this because we have no information or context to answer your questions or assuage your doubts, I am curious as to what he would have to accomplish before you conceded he was a good hire. Obviously I'm not saying it was a good or bad hire myself. That's TBD.

 

Not you specifically, but all of the haters out there.

 

You can argue the merits of a hire when its made, you dont need to wait until it fails. I feel like the Bears job is a notably good job by NFL standards, and Bears HC is one of the best jobs in football.

 

I would have retained Lovie until an NFL head coach with an indisputable record of success in the NFL became available and Emery had a reasonable take that he'd be interested in the job. Lovie has another year left on his deal. Why not retain Lovie and hire Trestman as OC?

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Hahahaha...The Score playing cuts done by the "big voice" guy saying different people were hired as coach....

 

Brian Urlacher was named player/head coach of the Chicago Bears

 

Bob Babich was named Head Coach of the Chicago Bears

 

Mayor Mongo McMichael was named Head Coach of the Chicago Bears

 

Tim Beckman was named head coach of the Chicago Bears for first and second downs

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If Trestman had such a proud track record of success than why, in his entire american football career (cant believe i have to make this distinction), has he never held a job more than 2 years, and why has every single career move he has made (up until Emery hiring him as HC of the Bears) been either lateral or downward?

This is what i read on another board:

 

 

Trestman was with Seifert, then Seifert got fired.

 

He was with Bill Callahan, then Callahan got fired.

 

He was with Dave McGinnis, then McGinnis got fired.

 

Assistants live a vagabond lifestyle. Longevity of stay is not the norm - it's the reason Trestman went to the CFL.

 

 

So at least some instances of him moving on when a new HC comes in. Maybe if you looked further some other moves were upgrades.

 

And there have been results offensively, no matter what decision makers decide about him.

 

 

 

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If Trestman had such a proud track record of success than why, in his entire american football career (cant believe i have to make this distinction), has he never held a job more than 2 years, and why has every single career move he has made (up until Emery hiring him as HC of the Bears) been either lateral or downward?

This is what i read on another board:

 

 

Trestman was with Seifert, then Seifert got fired.

 

He was with Bill Callahan, then Callahan got fired.

 

He was with Dave McGinnis, then McGinnis got fired.

 

Assistants live a vagabond lifestyle. Longevity of stay is not the norm - it's the reason Trestman went to the CFL.

 

 

So at least some instances of him moving on when a new HC comes in. Maybe if you looked further some other moves were upgrades.

 

And there have been results offensively, no matter what decision makers decide about him.

 

 

 

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I believe his head coach at NC State got fired too and that is what finally caused him to say "bleep it, I'm going to Canada!" :P

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Stop giving this guy credit for Steve Young's success and stop giving him credit for success with a CFL QB who had enjoyed a 15 year celebrated career prior to trestman heading to canada.

 

If Trestman had such a proud track record of success than why, in his entire american football career (cant believe i have to make this distinction), has he never held a job more than 2 years, and why has every single career move he has made (up until Emery hiring him as HC of the Bears) been either lateral or downward?

 

i don't know. but why do people keep hiring him?

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Apparently Lovie won't take a coordinator job. If he doesn't get a HC job, he'll sit for the year.

 

Maybe he can do what many head coaches between jobs do and take a studio job at CBS, FOX, ESPN or the NFLN. Can you imagine the entertaining discussions that Lovie would help facilitate?

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score guys don't sound to confident that marinelli will stay. say he may go to cleveland or san diego.

 

He's under contract. If Phil wants to keep him (or Marc) I don't know why they just tell him to suck it up.

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score guys don't sound to confident that marinelli will stay. say he may go to cleveland or san diego.

 

He's under contract. If Phil wants to keep him (or Marc) I don't know why they just tell him to suck it up.

Two reasons, you don't want to poison the waters of your head coach's first staff and that stuff will make it tough to recruit elite coaching talent in the future. You can ask him to reconsider and try to persuade him to stay, but if a DC wants to leave after a HC change, it may just be for the best to let him leave.

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I may have been wrong on trestman. If he can produce that type of talent with little trestman he may be able to fix the line all on his own.

Technically, he had a lot of help producing that talent.

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I may have been wrong on trestman. If he can produce that type of talent with little trestman he may be able to fix the line all on his own.

Technically, he had a lot of help producing that talent.

He must have supplied the raw goods on his own while his wife developed it once they were in the organization.

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