Bears Offseason Thread (Trestman new HC, pg 37)

[Magnetic Curses]

to imply he's not going to have a huge say in it is wrong.

 

I'm not implying it, I'm saying it.

 

Trestman will not have a huge say on the specific players brought in. His scheme will effect which way Emery goes, and in August he will be the one making decisions on whether to cut guys or not, but he won't be Bill Parcells shopping for his own groceries, a post-Super Bowl Lovie getting specific names he wants.

 

If the offensive line is going to be "reformed" it is going to have to come from personnel men making the right decisions on offensive lineman that are not currently in the organization.

 

 

did you even listen to emery's press conference? you've taken an idiotic stance and now you're married to it because of your inability to admit that you've ever been wrong.

[jersey cubs fan]

the fact that jerry rice was upset that he felt he was used incorrectly doesn't mean that he was used incorrectly. i find those comments irrelevant because they are about him not liking his personal role, not the fact that the role was actually effective.

 

I just found it amusing that Marc Trestman has a website set up with a list of quotes about how great Marc Trestman is and the first name on the list is a guy who was reportedly happy when he was fired from his job coaching him.

[jersey cubs fan]

to imply he's not going to have a huge say in it is wrong.

 

I'm not implying it, I'm saying it.

 

Trestman will not have a huge say on the specific players brought in. His scheme will effect which way Emery goes, and in August he will be the one making decisions on whether to cut guys or not, but he won't be Bill Parcells shopping for his own groceries, a post-Super Bowl Lovie getting specific names he wants.

 

If the offensive line is going to be "reformed" it is going to have to come from personnel men making the right decisions on offensive lineman that are not currently in the organization.

 

 

did you even listen to emery's press conference? you've taken an idiotic stance and now you're married to it because of your inability to admit that you've ever been wrong.

 

Really? You still want that extension for Lovie?

[kujay]

Where are we getting that he's not a players' coach? The Allouettes WR who spoke earlier made it sound like that's exactly what he is.

[Banedon]

It's almost refreshing that Trestman isn't a players coach after Lovie

 

Actually, everybody seems to say that he is a players coach. This Rice/Brown situation seems to be an exception.

[Magnetic Curses]

when did i say i wanted an extension for lovie? i supported lovie until this year when it was obvious he wasn't concerned with how the offense performed. you supported him, too.

 

i don't think i ever indicated i wanted an extension for him, though. i could be wrong.

[Banedon]

to imply he's not going to have a huge say in it is wrong.

 

I'm not implying it, I'm saying it.

 

Trestman will not have a huge say on the specific players brought in. His scheme will effect which way Emery goes, and in August he will be the one making decisions on whether to cut guys or not, but he won't be Bill Parcells shopping for his own groceries, a post-Super Bowl Lovie getting specific names he wants.

 

If the offensive line is going to be "reformed" it is going to have to come from personnel men making the right decisions on offensive lineman that are not currently in the organization.

 

 

did you even listen to emery's press conference? you've taken an idiotic stance and now you're married to it because of your inability to admit that you've ever been wrong.

 

Really? You still want that extension for Lovie?

 

I think you're holding onto that a bit too much. We don't have any idea how serious that ever was. The "source" on that was Terry Boers, who is far from an iron clad source.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Well then boooooo I hate him more

[jersey cubs fan]

The point is the offensive line has to be fixed with personnel decisions made by personnel guys. Trestman won't fix it. Personnel decisions will fix it.

 

Montreal media members talking about how Trestman is going to "reform" the offensive line are not saying anything meaningful.

[Magnetic Curses]

The point is the offensive line has to be fixed with personnel decisions made by personnel guys. Trestman won't fix it. Personnel decisions will fix it.

 

Montreal media members talking about how Trestman is going to "reform" the offensive line are not saying anything meaningful.

 

he's going to cut or otherwise release several players, i'm sure. he'll bring in guys that fit his system or whom he feels are better than what he has. i don't know what is so hard to understand about that.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think you're holding onto that a bit too much. We don't have any idea how serious that ever was. The "source" on that was Terry Boers, who is far from an iron clad source.

 

Holding on to what? I'm not talking about reports of an extension from the media. I'm talking about the discussion on here in reaction to those reports.

[WrigleyField 22]

Emery is an info junkie. He'll pick Treatman's brain about players and get tons of feedback. When its decision time, it will be Emery's to make. But Emery will obviously be influenced after picking his brain, just as he will be influenced by scouts.

 

 

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[Banedon]

I think you're holding onto that a bit too much. We don't have any idea how serious that ever was. The "source" on that was Terry Boers, who is far from an iron clad source.

 

Holding on to what? I'm not talking about reports of an extension from the media. I'm talking about the discussion on here in reaction to those reports.

 

Ah, ok.

[jersey cubs fan]

The point is the offensive line has to be fixed with personnel decisions made by personnel guys. Trestman won't fix it. Personnel decisions will fix it.

 

Montreal media members talking about how Trestman is going to "reform" the offensive line are not saying anything meaningful.

 

he's going to cut or otherwise release several players, i'm sure. he'll bring in guys that fit his system or whom he feels are better than what he has. i don't know what is so hard to understand about that.

 

He won't be the one bringing them in. That is the point.

[Magnetic Curses]

The point is the offensive line has to be fixed with personnel decisions made by personnel guys. Trestman won't fix it. Personnel decisions will fix it.

 

Montreal media members talking about how Trestman is going to "reform" the offensive line are not saying anything meaningful.

 

and emery's soliloquy about "synergy" means that a lot of people will have input. not just the "personnel guys". that includes the head coach, whom he said will have a lot of input into the personnel. again, did you not hear the emery pc?

[Wilson A2000]

Bears want Marinelli to stay. Not going to 3-4 I guess.

[ConstableRabbit]

There have been a ton of head coaches in the NFL who came in without exposure to top football talent for long periods of time.

 

Who? NFL coaches are either assistant NFL coaches or coaches of very good major college teams, who are very good because they have NFL caliber talent moving on to the next level.

... With the vast majority of those rosters not good enough to play professionally, let alone in the NFL. And the vast majority of opponent rosters.

 

You've taken an obtuse stance you're now forced to defend based on selectively reading quotes from Emery.

[Magnetic Curses]

The point is the offensive line has to be fixed with personnel decisions made by personnel guys. Trestman won't fix it. Personnel decisions will fix it.

 

Montreal media members talking about how Trestman is going to "reform" the offensive line are not saying anything meaningful.

 

he's going to cut or otherwise release several players, i'm sure. he'll bring in guys that fit his system or whom he feels are better than what he has. i don't know what is so hard to understand about that.

 

He won't be the one bringing them in. That is the point.

 

he won't be the only one bringing them in. your argument has now morphed into a rigid "only personnel guys make personnel decisions." to support your original thesis. i don't know why you paint yourself into corners like that.

[jersey cubs fan]

There have been a ton of head coaches in the NFL who came in without exposure to top football talent for long periods of time.

 

Who? NFL coaches are either assistant NFL coaches or coaches of very good major college teams, who are very good because they have NFL caliber talent moving on to the next level.

... With the vast majority of those rosters not good enough to play professionally, let alone in the NFL. And the vast majority of opponent rosters.

 

You've taken an obtuse stance you're now forced to defend based on selectively reading quotes from Emery.

 

I've taken the only rational stance. Emery is the personnel man tasked with bringing in the talent. NFL coach/GM relationships vary from team to team, with some GMs being de facto assistants to the head coach. That is not the case with the Bears.

[Banedon]

Good thought on twitter, wondering if Marinelli is wavering on the off chance that Lovie gets a HC job somewhere, so he can follow him.

[jersey cubs fan]

The point is the offensive line has to be fixed with personnel decisions made by personnel guys. Trestman won't fix it. Personnel decisions will fix it.

 

Montreal media members talking about how Trestman is going to "reform" the offensive line are not saying anything meaningful.

 

he's going to cut or otherwise release several players, i'm sure. he'll bring in guys that fit his system or whom he feels are better than what he has. i don't know what is so hard to understand about that.

 

He won't be the one bringing them in. That is the point.

 

he won't be the only one bringing them in. your argument has now morphed into a rigid "only personnel guys make personnel decisions." to support your original thesis. i don't know why you paint yourself into corners like that.

 

If you want to describe it as a corner, whatever. I'm very comfortable standing by what I've said on the matter.

 

Trestman won't be the one we'll be counting on to "reform" the offensive line. Emery is.

[Banedon]

I think we can say this....J-Webb Nation is probably not feeling as safe these days as they were under Mike Tice.

[Guest]

While Kromer may have struggled this season as interim coach, but Kromer has helped mold the Saints offensive line into one of the best units in the last several seasons.

 

Under Kromer's watch, the Saints have had someone from every offensive line position earn a Pro Bowl spot: left tackle Jermon Bushrod, left guard Carl Nicks, center Jonathan Goodwin, right guard Jahri Evans and right tackle Jon Stinchcomb. Evans and Nicks also became the first guard tandem ever to earn first-team All-Pro honors.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think we can say this....J-Webb Nation is probably not feeling as safe these days as they were under Mike Tice.

 

:lol:

 

yeah, I can't imagine that experiment will continue.

[KingCubsFan]

Good thought on twitter, wondering if Marinelli is wavering on the off chance that Lovie gets a HC job somewhere, so he can follow him.

Wasn't he reluctant to become the DC in the first place? I could even see him becoming a D-line coach if Lovie becomes a DC.