Re: College Basketball 2012-2013

[abuck1220]

nice choke maryland.

[abuck1220]

refs desperately trying to keep uva's tourney hopes alive...

[hawkeyecub]

Maryland played some of the dumbest/worst basketball possible and Virginia still didn't really want to take it from them.

[rawaction]

I wouldnt trade an outright title for the world, but damn #1 got a tough draw this year. Illinois/Minnesota winner then Michigan/Wisconsin winner. Especially tough for IU considering they went 1-3 against 3/4 of those teams. #3 seems like the spot to be in. Likely get Iowa then Ohio St...imo the weakest of the top 5...... to get to the finals.

[Bruno7481]

I wouldnt trade an outright title for the world, but damn #1 got a tough draw this year. Illinois/Minnesota winner then Michigan/Wisconsin winner. Especially tough for IU considering they went 1-3 against 3/4 of those teams. #3 seems like the spot to be in. Likely get Iowa then Ohio St...imo the weakest of the top 5...... to get to the finals.

 

Been saying for a while now that I can't wait to start playing teams outside the B1G again. This league is brutal. I do like the fact that IU will match up against a team that has beat them. Not that I would expect them to overlook somebody else, but it should be a reminder that they can't coast.

 

I care a lot less about the B1G Tournament now than I did at tipoff of today's game though.

[rawaction]

 

I care a lot less about the B1G Tournament now than I did at tipoff of today's game though.

 

Agreed. But I really don't want to lose in the 1st game (though I think we're still a lock for a #1 seed). And I'm really tired of losing to Wisconsin. And I've always hated the thought of having to play high pressure games Fri/Sat/Sun, traveling and playing higher pressure games Thurs/Sat. Though that Thursday game should be a lot less pressure as a 1-2 seed than in year's past as a 4-10 seed.

[Guest]

USC basketball players involved in brawl in Downtown Spokane

[Careless]

GR3 is a 70% FT shooter, goes 1-2

TH2 is a 70% FT shooter, goes 0-1

Burke is a 80% FT shooter, goes 0-1

1.8% chance of those guys missing three times in a row with those percentages.

[Bruno7481]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDnJ6zjmcw

 

Anybody caught up with this yet? Meyer was one of Sampson's assistants. Some you Illini fans I remember not being very fond of Meyer during the Gordon saga. Wasn't Meyer the one who played college ball with Gordon's dad?

 

Rumor has it in the handshake line Meyer told Crean to go f-himself. Crean has not been shy about ripping Sampson, his assistant and the kinds of kids they recruited that wrecked IU's program. Meyer and the rest of Sampson's crew aren't fans of his and aren't shy about it. Meyer confronted him in the handshake line, Crean walked away, his assistant Tim Buckley tried to smooth things over and that's when Crean came back and yelled at Meyer.

[Smack]

crean clearly the victim here

[Guest]

Thought he was going to plant one on Oladipo's lips there at the end.

[Bruno7481]

Has nothing to do with Crean being a victim of any kind. IF (and who really knows) it went down that way, I see why Crean said something. One of the recruiting "experts" on Twitter had a couple tweets about some negative recruiting going on between IU and Michigan as well. he didn't elaborate, so no idea what the details are.

 

Crean is weird, I get it completely, but not a victim.

[illiniguy]

Has nothing to do with Crean being a victim of any kind. IF (and who really knows) it went down that way, I see why Crean said something. One of the recruiting "experts" on Twitter had a couple tweets about some negative recruiting going on between IU and Michigan as well. he didn't elaborate, so no idea what the details are.

 

Crean is weird, I get it completely, but not a victim.

Crean is weird, Meyer is dirty as hell. I'm siding with the weirdo in this one.

[Exile on Waveland]

Has nothing to do with Crean being a victim of any kind. IF (and who really knows) it went down that way, I see why Crean said something. One of the recruiting "experts" on Twitter had a couple tweets about some negative recruiting going on between IU and Michigan as well. he didn't elaborate, so no idea what the details are.

 

Crean is weird, I get it completely, but not a victim.

Crean is weird, Meyer is dirty as hell. I'm siding with the weirdo in this one.

 

Ha ha, exactly.

 

Also, this thread has become mass hysteria, Purdue fans talking smack to the opposing team after an IU win, Illinois fans siding with Crean (rightfully), dogs and cats living together.

[Exile on Waveland]

I wouldnt trade an outright title for the world, but damn #1 got a tough draw this year. Illinois/Minnesota winner then Michigan/Wisconsin winner. Especially tough for IU considering they went 1-3 against 3/4 of those teams. #3 seems like the spot to be in. Likely get Iowa then Ohio St...imo the weakest of the top 5...... to get to the finals.

 

Yeah, not much of a reward in the tournament for winning the league. Illinois/Minnesota is an absolutely brutal first game for the No. 1 seed. And then the second game would be either a really good team they've beaten twice (and once this week) or the team they seemingly can't beat. I never expect much from IU in the Big Ten Tournament, but I care far less than I did before winning the regular season outright. That was one of my two main goals for the season . . . first time in twenty years, yeesh.

 

Can't decide if I want to say Ohio State over Michigan or Michigan over Iowa for the tournament.

[Formerly Snayke]

Been saying for a while now that I can't wait to start playing teams outside the B1G again. This league is brutal.

 

Well, six of the last eight games have been against Ohio State, Iowa, Purdue, Nebraska and Minnesota. Someone has already said Ohio State isn't very good, which means those other teams are terrible.

 

Apparently it hasn't been that brutal.

[sneakypower]

Been saying for a while now that I can't wait to start playing teams outside the B1G again. This league is brutal.

 

Well, six of the last eight games have been against Ohio State, Iowa, Purdue, Nebraska and Minnesota. Someone has already said Ohio State isn't very good, which means those other teams are terrible.

 

Apparently it hasn't been that brutal.

they're the #7 team on KenPom

[Exile on Waveland]

Been saying for a while now that I can't wait to start playing teams outside the B1G again. This league is brutal.

 

Well, six of the last eight games have been against Ohio State, Iowa, Purdue, Nebraska and Minnesota. Someone has already said Ohio State isn't very good, which means those other teams are terrible.

 

Apparently it hasn't been that brutal.

they're the #7 team on KenPom

 

And that poster said Ohio State was the weakest of the five Big Ten teams in Pomeroy's top-11, not that Ohio State wasn't very good. I think that's an entirely defensible position, even though Ohio State is playing very well right now (surprisingly well, in my opinion).

 

Moreover, Minnesota is No. 24 in Pomeroy and Iowa is No. 30, meaning they are ranked higher than all but two SEC teams (and Purdue is ranked higher than all but four (!) SEC teams). If those are some of the easier games on your schedule, your schedule is brutal.

[Formerly Snayke]

And that poster said Ohio State was the weakest of the five Big Ten teams in Pomeroy's top-11, not that Ohio State wasn't very good.

 

But I am ashamed of the Ohio St. loss. I just dont think they are a very good team. I think Illinois is a more complete team actually.

 

Hmm, nope don't see anything about that being about Pomeroy's Top 11.

[Smack]

AJ Hammons and Ronnie Johnson are both in the top 10 all-time for points scored by a Purdue freshman. Rapheal Davis was just named B1G Freshman of the Week.

 

Johnson is 2nd all time in assists by a Purdue freshman.

 

Hammons is already 14th all-time at Purdue for career blocked shots.

 

If they don't beat Nebraska and Ohio State they may become the first B1G program to accept an invite to the CBI tournament. Maybe that's 'embarassing' but they're playing their best basketball of the year right now so I'm all for more experience for the young guys.

[Guest]

Moreover, Minnesota is No. 24 in Pomeroy and Iowa is No. 30, meaning they are ranked higher than all but two SEC teams (and Purdue is ranked higher than all but four (!) SEC teams). If those are some of the easier games on your schedule, your schedule is brutal.

 

KenPom is a great tool, but let's not be dogmatic here. Purdue is terrible, Iowa is not good, and Minnesota appears to be a much different team with how they've sank like a stone in the second half(5-10 in their last 15 with losses to Purdue, Northwestern, and Nebraska).

[bukie]

Moreover, Minnesota is No. 24 in Pomeroy and Iowa is No. 30, meaning they are ranked higher than all but two SEC teams (and Purdue is ranked higher than all but four (!) SEC teams). If those are some of the easier games on your schedule, your schedule is brutal.

 

KenPom is a great tool, but let's not be dogmatic here. Purdue is terrible, Iowa is not good, and Minnesota appears to be a much different team with how they've sank like a stone in the second half(5-10 in their last 15 with losses to Purdue, Northwestern, and Nebraska).

You're going to have to explain to me how this is pragmatic.

[Guest]

Moreover, Minnesota is No. 24 in Pomeroy and Iowa is No. 30, meaning they are ranked higher than all but two SEC teams (and Purdue is ranked higher than all but four (!) SEC teams). If those are some of the easier games on your schedule, your schedule is brutal.

 

KenPom is a great tool, but let's not be dogmatic here. Purdue is terrible, Iowa is not good, and Minnesota appears to be a much different team with how they've sank like a stone in the second half(5-10 in their last 15 with losses to Purdue, Northwestern, and Nebraska).

You're going to have to explain to me how this is pragmatic.

 

In the interests of brevity, I didn't go into a paragraphs-long description about exactly why 15-16 Purdue is terrible, why unanimous edge of the bubble team Iowa is not good, and why jumped-off-a-cliff Minnesota is probably a worse team now than their statistical profile would suggest. I have enough faith in the community here that they can see the point being made.

[bukie]

As much as Minnesota is worse than their statistical profile suggests, Purdue is better right now than their profile suggests. Iowa is a good team with terrible non conference scheduling.

[Guest]

Purdue is 4 for their last 11. They beat Wisconsin, but also lost to Northwestern. I'm not seeing much change, certainly nothing like the complete reversal that Minnesota has had.

 

There's nothing wrong with Iowa, but they've won and lost the games expected to put them on the edge of the bubble(split with Wisconsin and beat Illinois, but split with Nebraska and Purdue). Sure they could've gamed their non-con SOS a bit better, but not losing to bubble Wichita or letting awful VT beat them by 16 would've helped too.

 

But to get back to the original point, Snayke pointed out that at least half of IU's recent games have been against Iowa, Purdue, Nebraska, and Minnesota. That's not a "brutal" stretch by any means.