Re: College Basketball 2012-2013

[Thed Hoyerstein]

get stupid wichita state and creighton out of the polls and keep them out.

 

Wichita is out and won't be back in for the rest of the season, but you're going to punish Creighton for losing at Indiana State, who's proven that they're a bubble team? I don't see you trying to get Kansas State kicked out of the polls for losing at Iowa State (Hint: Iowa State = Indiana State, resume wise).

 

kansas st is overrated and i hate them, but they did beat florida (and okie st and oklahoma x2). creighton's best win is wisconsin. and they lost to drake.

 

If you count Oklahoma as a good win, then I'm going to say so is Arizona State (N), Akron, Indiana State, and @ California.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

also, [expletive] indiana state...losses to drake, illinois st, southern illinois and morehead st. imagine those losses on a BCS team's resume...that team would not be considered a bubble team.

 

They have one confusing tourney profile, but I disagree about the "imagine those losses on a BCS team's resume". Losses to the aforementioned, but wins against Miami (FL), Ole Miss, @ Wichita State, and Creighton.

[Careless]

"The great thing was we had three assists on those three baskets" - Bill Self's post-game press conference Edited February 7, 2013 by Careless

[Thed Hoyerstein]

"If we could start three guys, we'd start three guys. Because I don't really know who deserves to start. You have got to start five."

[abuck1220]

get stupid wichita state and creighton out of the polls and keep them out.

 

Wichita is out and won't be back in for the rest of the season, but you're going to punish Creighton for losing at Indiana State, who's proven that they're a bubble team? I don't see you trying to get Kansas State kicked out of the polls for losing at Iowa State (Hint: Iowa State = Indiana State, resume wise).

 

kansas st is overrated and i hate them, but they did beat florida (and okie st and oklahoma x2). creighton's best win is wisconsin. and they lost to drake.

 

If you count Oklahoma as a good win, then I'm going to say so is Arizona State (N), Akron, Indiana State, and @ California.

 

i'm confused by how OU is so highly regarded too, but the fact is, they're 20 in the RPI.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

get stupid wichita state and creighton out of the polls and keep them out.

 

Wichita is out and won't be back in for the rest of the season, but you're going to punish Creighton for losing at Indiana State, who's proven that they're a bubble team? I don't see you trying to get Kansas State kicked out of the polls for losing at Iowa State (Hint: Iowa State = Indiana State, resume wise).

 

kansas st is overrated and i hate them, but they did beat florida (and okie st and oklahoma x2). creighton's best win is wisconsin. and they lost to drake.

 

If you count Oklahoma as a good win, then I'm going to say so is Arizona State (N), Akron, Indiana State, and @ California.

 

i'm confused by how OU is so highly regarded too, but the fact is, they're 20 in the RPI.

 

RPI can be so weird. For instance, how in the heck is Belmont so high? Last time I looked, they were like 15th or something and their best wins were pretty middle-of-the road. From what I recall, the committee has begun placing less emphasis on RPI when seeding teams and handing out at-large bids.

[illiniguy]

Self: "It was the worst team Kansas has ever put on the floor since Dr. Naismith was there."

 

It's like porn.

[Exile on Waveland]

also, [expletive] indiana state...losses to drake, illinois st, southern illinois and morehead st. imagine those losses on a BCS team's resume...that team would not be considered a bubble team.

 

They have one confusing tourney profile, but I disagree about the "imagine those losses on a BCS team's resume". Losses to the aforementioned, but wins against Miami (FL), Ole Miss, @ Wichita State, and Creighton.

 

I like Indiana State, but beating Miami (FL) without Reggie Johnson (9.8 points, 9.1 rebounds) isn't exacly beating "Miami (FL)" as they currently stand.

[Exile on Waveland]

This is the most unbelievable season I've ever seen. Why the hell can't Iowa close anyone out?

 

Combination of some Iowa miscues and horribly bad luck.

 

4 Big Ten losses now where they led in the final minute. 3 of them against the top half of the league, 3 of them on the road. Wisconsin's 3 that rattled around then went off glass then in pretty much summed it up. Followed by our game-winning shot being 3/4 of the way down then rolling out.

 

This team is a [expletive] hair from being a lock for the tournament and playing for a 5-6 seed. Instead we'll end up in the NIT.

 

Iowa is so close to being good; I thought they'd squeak into the tournament this year, but that's not looking likely. They are going to be the proverbial "out of nowhere" team next year though.

[Smack]

This is the most unbelievable season I've ever seen. Why the hell can't Iowa close anyone out?

 

Combination of some Iowa miscues and horribly bad luck.

 

4 Big Ten losses now where they led in the final minute. 3 of them against the top half of the league, 3 of them on the road. Wisconsin's 3 that rattled around then went off glass then in pretty much summed it up. Followed by our game-winning shot being 3/4 of the way down then rolling out.

 

This team is a [expletive] hair from being a lock for the tournament and playing for a 5-6 seed. Instead we'll end up in the NIT.

 

Iowa is so close to being good; I thought they'd squeak into the tournament this year, but that's not looking likely. They are going to be the proverbial "out of nowhere" team next year though.

 

They're 3-7 in conference but I wouldn't write them off for this year's tournament yet.

 

They should win these:

Northwestern

@Penn State

@Nebraska

Purdue

Nebraska

 

Meaning they only need to win one of these to get to 9-9 in conference:

Minnesota

Illinois

@ IU

 

Their schedule was just really front loaded. Plus they're going to look hot coming down the stretch which will benefit them. If they hit 9-9 in the B1G this year, and 20 wins, they're a lock.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I still hold out hope they can get to 20 and 9, but I think it'll still take a couple of wins in the B1G tourney to get in.

[Exile on Waveland]

This is the most unbelievable season I've ever seen. Why the hell can't Iowa close anyone out?

 

Combination of some Iowa miscues and horribly bad luck.

 

4 Big Ten losses now where they led in the final minute. 3 of them against the top half of the league, 3 of them on the road. Wisconsin's 3 that rattled around then went off glass then in pretty much summed it up. Followed by our game-winning shot being 3/4 of the way down then rolling out.

 

This team is a [expletive] hair from being a lock for the tournament and playing for a 5-6 seed. Instead we'll end up in the NIT.

 

Iowa is so close to being good; I thought they'd squeak into the tournament this year, but that's not looking likely. They are going to be the proverbial "out of nowhere" team next year though.

 

They're 3-7 in conference but I wouldn't write them off for this year's tournament yet.

 

They should win these:

Northwestern

@Penn State

@Nebraska

Purdue

Nebraska

 

Meaning they only need to win one of these to get to 9-9 in conference:

Minnesota

Illinois

@ IU

 

Their schedule was just really front loaded. Plus they're going to look hot coming down the stretch which will benefit them. If they hit 9-9 in the B1G this year, and 20 wins, they're a lock.

 

I certainly hope you're right. There's no doubt in my mind they will/would be better than a number of team that receive at-large bids to the tournament. They're No. 33 in Pomeroy. Pomeroy has them predicted at 8-10 in the Big Ten, but I think most would consider Iowa a home favorite over Minnesota at this point (which would make them 9-9). I just worry that they'll be looked at through the prism of "who did they beat?"--when their best non-conference win is Iowa State and they would have home wins against Wisconsin and Minnesota in the league (and thus no wins against the likely top-4 Big Ten teams). Though they've been so close, I could see them upsetting someone in the Big Ten Tournament and clinching a bid.

[Formerly Snayke]

Self: "It was the worst team Kansas has ever put on the floor since Dr. Naismith was there."

 

It's like porn.

 

Who was it early in the season that said the Big 12 is a dumpster fire? I can't believe Bruce Weber might win a conference title.

[mul21]

Anybody willing to make a wager tonight and give me Illinois +20? I'd still be worried about them covering.

[Bruno7481]

I'm not sure what to expect tonight. Illinois is capable of playing well, but also capable of being pretty bad. I would have to think they would want to give a big effort with #1 coming to their home floor.

 

As far as individual matchups go, I have a hard time finding one that doesn't favor Indiana. It has been a long time since IU has gone to Illinois and won, let alone blow them out. I think IU wins, but I expect Illinois to hang around.

[Smack]

I'm hoping Groce kneecaps Sheehey for celebrating

[illiniguy]

Self: "It was the worst team Kansas has ever put on the floor since Dr. Naismith was there."

 

It's like porn.

 

Who was it early in the season that said the Big 12 is a dumpster fire? I can't believe Bruce Weber might win a conference title.

It only makes the fall sweeter. He won't win though, no way will he go into the phog and win.

[Exile on Waveland]

I'm not sure what to expect tonight. Illinois is capable of playing well, but also capable of being pretty bad. I would have to think they would want to give a big effort with #1 coming to their home floor.

 

As far as individual matchups go, I have a hard time finding one that doesn't favor Indiana. It has been a long time since IU has gone to Illinois and won, let alone blow them out. I think IU wins, but I expect Illinois to hang around.

 

Indiana won at Illinois in 2008. They did not play at Illinois last year. Meaning, IU only has a 3-game losing streak at Illinois. Considering how long it has been since IU won at other locations, say Michigan State, I don't consider that so long.

 

And I agree, I have no idea what to expect. IU matches up pretty well with Illinois so I could see a relatively comfortable win--I do not expect a blowout at all--or I could see Illinois going off from 3 and winning. Who knows?

[mul21]

I'm not sure what to expect tonight. Illinois is capable of playing well, but also capable of being pretty bad. I would have to think they would want to give a big effort with #1 coming to their home floor.

 

As far as individual matchups go, I have a hard time finding one that doesn't favor Indiana. It has been a long time since IU has gone to Illinois and won, let alone blow them out. I think IU wins, but I expect Illinois to hang around.

 

Indiana won at Illinois in 2008. They did not play at Illinois last year. Meaning, IU only has a 3-game losing streak at Illinois. Considering how long it has been since IU won at other locations, say Michigan State, I don't consider that so long.

 

And I agree, I have no idea what to expect. IU matches up pretty well with Illinois so I could see a relatively comfortable win--I do not expect a blowout at all--or I could see Illinois going off from 3 and winning. Who knows?

 

We're soft, mentally and physically. Nobody plays or communicates on defense after the first 5 minutes of each half, there's not much hustle, and we don't block out. So, unless we shoot about 60% from 3, we'll lose by at least 15. I'm so ready to see a changing of the guard and have the Weber coached out of these guys.

[snoodmonger]

Self: "It was the worst team Kansas has ever put on the floor since Dr. Naismith was there."

 

It's like porn.

 

Who was it early in the season that said the Big 12 is a dumpster fire? I can't believe Bruce Weber might win a conference title.

It only makes the fall sweeter. He won't win though, no way will he go into the phog and win.

 

Just like there's no chance we'd lose to the worst team in D 1?

[hawkeyecub]

This is the most unbelievable season I've ever seen. Why the hell can't Iowa close anyone out?

 

Combination of some Iowa miscues and horribly bad luck.

 

4 Big Ten losses now where they led in the final minute. 3 of them against the top half of the league, 3 of them on the road. Wisconsin's 3 that rattled around then went off glass then in pretty much summed it up. Followed by our game-winning shot being 3/4 of the way down then rolling out.

 

This team is a [expletive] hair from being a lock for the tournament and playing for a 5-6 seed. Instead we'll end up in the NIT.

 

Iowa is so close to being good; I thought they'd squeak into the tournament this year, but that's not looking likely. They are going to be the proverbial "out of nowhere" team next year though.

 

They're 3-7 in conference but I wouldn't write them off for this year's tournament yet.

 

They should win these:

Northwestern

@Penn State

@Nebraska

Purdue

Nebraska

 

Meaning they only need to win one of these to get to 9-9 in conference:

Minnesota

Illinois

@ IU

 

Their schedule was just really front loaded. Plus they're going to look hot coming down the stretch which will benefit them. If they hit 9-9 in the B1G this year, and 20 wins, they're a lock.

 

I felt that way early in the year but not so much anymore. The RPI is going to be bad and they'll get penalized for just racking up wins against the bottom. I think the lack of getting one of the MSU/Minn/Wisconsin games that they blew is going to force them to get at least 1, possibly 2 in the BTT if they finish 9-9.

[illiniguy]

Self: "It was the worst team Kansas has ever put on the floor since Dr. Naismith was there."

 

It's like porn.

 

Who was it early in the season that said the Big 12 is a dumpster fire? I can't believe Bruce Weber might win a conference title.

It only makes the fall sweeter. He won't win though, no way will he go into the phog and win.

 

Just like there's no chance we'd lose to the worst team in D 1?

Self has been taking shots at weber all year here. He will get that game.

[illiniguy]

I'm not sure what to expect tonight. Illinois is capable of playing well, but also capable of being pretty bad. I would have to think they would want to give a big effort with #1 coming to their home floor.

 

As far as individual matchups go, I have a hard time finding one that doesn't favor Indiana. It has been a long time since IU has gone to Illinois and won, let alone blow them out. I think IU wins, but I expect Illinois to hang around.

 

Indiana won at Illinois in 2008. They did not play at Illinois last year. Meaning, IU only has a 3-game losing streak at Illinois. Considering how long it has been since IU won at other locations, say Michigan State, I don't consider that so long.

 

And I agree, I have no idea what to expect. IU matches up pretty well with Illinois so I could see a relatively comfortable win--I do not expect a blowout at all--or I could see Illinois going off from 3 and winning. Who knows?

 

We're soft, mentally and physically. Nobody plays or communicates on defense after the first 5 minutes of each half, there's not much hustle, and we don't block out. So, unless we shoot about 60% from 3, we'll lose by at least 15. I'm so ready to see a changing of the guard and have the Weber coached out of these guys.

I think we keep it relatively close. But yeah, we aren't winning.

[rawaction]

I'm not sure what to expect tonight. Illinois is capable of playing well, but also capable of being pretty bad. I would have to think they would want to give a big effort with #1 coming to their home floor.

 

As far as individual matchups go, I have a hard time finding one that doesn't favor Indiana. It has been a long time since IU has gone to Illinois and won, let alone blow them out. I think IU wins, but I expect Illinois to hang around.

 

Indiana won at Illinois in 2008. They did not play at Illinois last year. Meaning, IU only has a 3-game losing streak at Illinois. Considering how long it has been since IU won at other locations, say Michigan State, I don't consider that so long.

 

And I agree, I have no idea what to expect. IU matches up pretty well with Illinois so I could see a relatively comfortable win--I do not expect a blowout at all--or I could see Illinois going off from 3 and winning. Who knows?

 

This is the real trap game. Purdue wasn't because it's Purdue. Beating Michigan, becoming #1, going to Columbus on Sunday....this game is the true one I worried about IU getting up for. That being said, it would be foolish to expect a loss (not that a loss is anywhere near impossible). I'm kinda expecting one of those ugly 63-56 games with IU winning at the FT line late.

[SouthSideRyan]

I bet I find the game infuriating one way or another.