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This seems to be gaining steam. I've noticed more and more chatter about it the last couple of days. I'd certainly love to get something for Byrd.

 

Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that the Nationals and Braves have expressed interest in acquiring Cubs center fielder Marlon Byrd.

Byrd is owed $6.5 million in 2012 and is a free agent in 2013, so he obviously doesn't fit into the Cubs' rebuilding plans. But the 34-year-old struggled to the tune of a .276/.324/.395 batting line last year and Chicago probably won't be able to get much in return. Reed Johnson, Joe Mather and Tony Campana would presumably share time in center if Byrd is dealt.

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Unless we get something of value, if we trade Byrd it should be for the purpose of making room for Jackson to start everyday, not Johnson, Mather, and Campana. If they don't think he's redy, but get a good offer anyway they should shift DeJesus to center and give Sappelt the first crack at RF before cycling through the spare parts bin.
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Unless we get something of value, if we trade Byrd it should be for the purpose of making room for Jackson to start everyday, not Johnson, Mather, and Campana. If they don't think he's redy, but get a good offer anyway they should shift DeJesus to center and give Sappelt the first crack at RF before cycling through the spare parts bin.

 

As has been stated 800 times on here(so why would you have seen it?) Jackson shouldn't start from day 1 because it'd be a waste of a chance to get an extra year of control.

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Unless we get something of value, if we trade Byrd it should be for the purpose of making room for Jackson to start everyday, not Johnson, Mather, and Campana. If they don't think he's redy, but get a good offer anyway they should shift DeJesus to center and give Sappelt the first crack at RF before cycling through the spare parts bin.

 

As has been stated 800 times on here(so why would you have seen it?) Jackson shouldn't start from day 1 because it'd be a waste of a chance to get an extra year of control.

 

I'm not saying that we need to start Jackson, I'm saying that they only reason to just get rid of Byrd would be to if they wanted to start him, unless someone wanted Byrd enough that they'd give up something of more value than an A baller with upside, depedning on the upside. As bad as our offense looks now, replacing Byrd with a 3 headed monster would make it downright brutal, however, I wouldn't mind giving Sappelt a look.

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If we pay some or most of his contract, I could see us getting a top 15ish type guy from an average system.

 

If June/July roll around and we're well out of the picture, then I'll take it, but as of now, with a little bit of luck we could hang with the division so it wouldn't make sense for that type of return.

 

For all of the Sappelt love, it doesn't look like he's even going to make the opening day roster.

 

I would like to see him instead of Johnson, but I dont mind so much. My gut is that his ceiling is a good 4th outfielder, but this would be a good year to have him start in Iowa in hopes that he could be something more.

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For all of the Sappelt love, it doesn't look like he's even going to make the opening day roster.

 

I would like to see him instead of Johnson, but I dont mind so much. My gut is that his ceiling is a good 4th outfielder, but this would be a good year to have him start in Iowa in hopes that he could be something more.

 

Can't imagine it's going to take more than a month for Johnson to miss time with some kind of ache or pain. We'll see Sappelt at some point for a little while.

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According to a Tween by BN/the guy who made the above post, in addition to Byrd, the Cubs are getting calls on Garza, Soto, Wells, Baker, and DeWitt. I say get whatever we can for the last 3.

I'd prefer to keep Garza unless the prospects coming back are blue-chip. Soto and Wells might be able to warrant a good prospect or two.

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According to a Tween by BN/the guy who made the above post, in addition to Byrd, the Cubs are getting calls on Garza, Soto, Wells, Baker, and DeWitt. I say get whatever we can for the last 3.

I'd prefer to keep Garza unless the prospects coming back are blue-chip. Soto and Wells might be able to warrant a good prospect or two.

 

Definitely agree on Garza and Soto, both of whom have real value. The other 3 are just worth whatever a team looking to fill a hole is willing to give up.

 

However, I don't know how many "blue chip" prospects Garza is going to bring in. Thinking back a few months, when people were asking for Turner, Castelannos, and one of Smyley or Crosby, I'll admit I was sucked in, but in reality, something more like Drabek, Alvarez, and Snider from Toronto sounds more realistic. Maybe replace Snider with Gose if the Jays were desperate, and even then we might end up tossing in a minor piece.

 

As for Soto, I still think TB , who are still in the hunt for a starting carcher would be the perfect spot, although their once plentiful farm isn't what it once was. I wonder if Soto and Byrd for Upton would be a possibility.

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According to a Tween by BN/the guy who made the above post, in addition to Byrd, the Cubs are getting calls on Garza, Soto, Wells, Baker, and DeWitt. I say get whatever we can for the last 3.

I'd prefer to keep Garza unless the prospects coming back are blue-chip. Soto and Wells might be able to warrant a good prospect or two.

 

Definitely agree on Garza and Soto, both of whom have real value. The other 3 are just worth whatever a team looking to fill a hole is willing to give up.

 

However, I don't know how many "blue chip" prospects Garza is going to bring in. Thinking back a few months, when people were asking for Turner, Castelannos, and one of Smyley or Crosby, I'll admit I was sucked in, but in reality, something more like Drabek, Alvarez, and Snider from Toronto sounds more realistic. Maybe replace Snider with Gose if the Jays were desperate, and even then we might end up tossing in a minor piece.

 

As for Soto, I still think TB , who are still in the hunt for a starting carcher would be the perfect spot, although their once plentiful farm isn't what it once was. I wonder if Soto and Byrd for Upton would be a possibility.

 

Waiting to trade Garza at the deadline may be the approach that Hoyer is taking. Teams in contention come July may be willing to give up more for a front of the rotation starter signed to a team friendly deal. If Garza is traded I'd hope that the package includes a very good pitching prospect not named Drabek.

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According to a Tween by BN/the guy who made the above post, in addition to Byrd, the Cubs are getting calls on Garza, Soto, Wells, Baker, and DeWitt. I say get whatever we can for the last 3.

I'd prefer to keep Garza unless the prospects coming back are blue-chip. Soto and Wells might be able to warrant a good prospect or two.

 

Definitely agree on Garza and Soto, both of whom have real value. The other 3 are just worth whatever a team looking to fill a hole is willing to give up.

 

However, I don't know how many "blue chip" prospects Garza is going to bring in. Thinking back a few months, when people were asking for Turner, Castelannos, and one of Smyley or Crosby, I'll admit I was sucked in, but in reality, something more like Drabek, Alvarez, and Snider from Toronto sounds more realistic. Maybe replace Snider with Gose if the Jays were desperate, and even then we might end up tossing in a minor piece.

 

As for Soto, I still think TB , who are still in the hunt for a starting carcher would be the perfect spot, although their once plentiful farm isn't what it once was. I wonder if Soto and Byrd for Upton would be a possibility.

I think we'd match up well with the Rays in a Soto trade, but would we trade to pry Upton when we have BJax waiting?

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According to a Tween by BN/the guy who made the above post, in addition to Byrd, the Cubs are getting calls on Garza, Soto, Wells, Baker, and DeWitt. I say get whatever we can for the last 3.

I'd prefer to keep Garza unless the prospects coming back are blue-chip. Soto and Wells might be able to warrant a good prospect or two.

 

Definitely agree on Garza and Soto, both of whom have real value. The other 3 are just worth whatever a team looking to fill a hole is willing to give up.

 

However, I don't know how many "blue chip" prospects Garza is going to bring in. Thinking back a few months, when people were asking for Turner, Castelannos, and one of Smyley or Crosby, I'll admit I was sucked in, but in reality, something more like Drabek, Alvarez, and Snider from Toronto sounds more realistic. Maybe replace Snider with Gose if the Jays were desperate, and even then we might end up tossing in a minor piece.

 

As for Soto, I still think TB , who are still in the hunt for a starting carcher would be the perfect spot, although their once plentiful farm isn't what it once was. I wonder if Soto and Byrd for Upton would be a possibility.

I think we'd match up well with the Rays in a Soto trade, but would we trade to pry Upton when we have BJax waiting?

 

I think that Upton can play a corner spot. That's the one area in which we have no long term answer, unless we get Soler.

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According to a Tween by BN/the guy who made the above post, in addition to Byrd, the Cubs are getting calls on Garza, Soto, Wells, Baker, and DeWitt. I say get whatever we can for the last 3.

I'd prefer to keep Garza unless the prospects coming back are blue-chip. Soto and Wells might be able to warrant a good prospect or two.

 

Definitely agree on Garza and Soto, both of whom have real value. The other 3 are just worth whatever a team looking to fill a hole is willing to give up.

 

However, I don't know how many "blue chip" prospects Garza is going to bring in. Thinking back a few months, when people were asking for Turner, Castelannos, and one of Smyley or Crosby, I'll admit I was sucked in, but in reality, something more like Drabek, Alvarez, and Snider from Toronto sounds more realistic. Maybe replace Snider with Gose if the Jays were desperate, and even then we might end up tossing in a minor piece.

 

As for Soto, I still think TB , who are still in the hunt for a starting carcher would be the perfect spot, although their once plentiful farm isn't what it once was. I wonder if Soto and Byrd for Upton would be a possibility.

 

Waiting to trade Garza at the deadline may be the approach that Hoyer is taking. Teams in contention come July may be willing to give up more for a front of the rotation starter signed to a team friendly deal. If Garza is traded I'd hope that the package includes a very good pitching prospect not named Drabek.

Maybe he's hoping the extra wild card spot will bring more teams to the table, too. And agreed on Drabek.

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I'll admit I was sucked in, but in reality, something more like Drabek, Alvarez, and Snider from Toronto sounds more realistic. Maybe replace Snider with Gose if the Jays were desperate, and even then we might end up tossing in a minor piece.

 

who wants that junk? drabek bombed and may end up in the bullpen and snider keeps flopping in the big leagues.

 

i'm hoping the jays have a good first half and are in playoff contention, and they get desperate. i like their system a lot. i'm really high on marisnick so i'd go after him... after that, a couple of pitchers like norris, syndergaard, alvarez, hutchison. even cardona and comer have high ceilings.

 

the downside of dealing with the blue jays is that anthopoulos is probably one of the best GMs in the game.

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the downside of dealing with the blue jays is that anthopoulos is probably one of the best GMs in the game.

 

He also traded Mike Napoli for Frank Francisco.

 

not paying vernon wells $86 million over 4 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making a bad trade of mike napoli. plus the napoli trade was understandable because they already had a 1b, dh and c.

 

every gm has made a bad trade. anthopoulos' results have, as a whole, been overwhelmingly positive.

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My point is I heard this same crap about Hendry dealing with Billy Beane, you shouldn't be leery of dealing with any GM, especially when you consider AA has never really made a "buy" trade in his tenure.

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