Hendry Fired (p. 2)

[davell]

Ricketts just put a true stamp down on the organization. Hendry did as well as he could and he certainly was a great guy but this was necessary. Can not wait to see who we get. Think Ricketts mentioned there were plenty of candidates that are currently assistants right now. Could temper some Friedman talk or anyone else currently a GM. Maybe Hahn is our guy............

[Post Count Padder]

 

[RynoRules]

Ricketts just put a true stamp down on the organization. Hendry did as well as he could and he certainly was a great guy but this was necessary. Can not wait to see who we get. Think Ricketts mentioned there were plenty of candidates that are currently assistants right now. Could temper some Friedman talk or anyone else currently a GM. Maybe Hahn is our guy............

 

Can someone help me understand why we would want Hahn? I'd much, much rather have the guy from the Red Sox, Friedman, etc.

[erik316wttn]

@thekapman

David Kaplan

Current baseball exec upon hearing news "There will be a ton of interest in Cubs job. You'll be shocked by the level of interest."

Running a top 3 baseball market team with a top 5 payroll in a division full of small market teams? I can't imagine how there'd be interest in a position like that.

Particularly after a press conference where the owner states flat-out that it's the GM's job to sign players and make baseball decisions and that the new GM will have carte blanche to hire whomever he wants.

 

Did Ricketts really say that in regards to players or just personel, because if that extends to players, it makes me very happy, and if neither Prince Fielder nor Albert Pujols are in a Cubs uniform come next spring, our future GM will waste no time finding his way onto the [expletive] list.

 

I don't know if you want to give an incoming GM that much power. I just fear another Soriano-type contract if you hire the wrong guy. Carte blanche within reason, yes. Give him the benefit of the doubt? Sure. But throw a ridiculous contract at a guy who doesn't deserve it? The owner needs to nix that.

Edited August 19, 2011 by erik316wttn

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ricketts just put a true stamp down on the organization. Hendry did as well as he could and he certainly was a great guy but this was necessary

 

Id be willing to bet the Hendry has a new job in baseball by the winter. Doubtful he'll ever be a GM again, but he'll get a job.

[erik316wttn]

Ricketts just put a true stamp down on the organization. Hendry did as well as he could and he certainly was a great guy but this was necessary. Can not wait to see who we get. Think Ricketts mentioned there were plenty of candidates that are currently assistants right now. Could temper some Friedman talk or anyone else currently a GM. Maybe Hahn is our guy............

 

That Theo Epstein guy would be ok by me! (yes, I know it won't happen)

[Little Slide Rooter]

Would anyone be kind enough to give me a basic jist of the rest of the press conference, other than the Hendry being gone part?

[SouthSideRyan]

@thekapman

David Kaplan

Current baseball exec upon hearing news "There will be a ton of interest in Cubs job. You'll be shocked by the level of interest."

Running a top 3 baseball market team with a top 5 payroll in a division full of small market teams? I can't imagine how there'd be interest in a position like that.

Particularly after a press conference where the owner states flat-out that it's the GM's job to sign players and make baseball decisions and that the new GM will have carte blanche to hire whomever he wants.

 

Did Ricketts really say that in regards to players or just personel, because if that extends to players, it makes me very happy, and if neither Prince Fielder nor Albert Pujols are in a Cubs uniform come next spring, our future GM will waste no time finding his way onto the [expletive] list.

 

I don't know if you want to give an incoming GM that much power. I just fear another Soriano-type contract if you hire the wrong guy.

 

So we don't want the new GM to decide who he signs?

[XZero771679666304]

Would anyone be kind enough to give me a basic jist of the rest of the press conference, other than the Hendry being gone part?

 

Re-read the thread.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Would anyone be kind enough to give me a basic jist of the rest of the press conference, other than the Hendry being gone part?

 

Re-read the thread.

 

Too long. I mean basically what he said about spending on the big league club and what not.

[C.C.]

Ricketts just put a true stamp down on the organization. ..

 

Firing Hendry is not much of a stamp. It all depends on who he hires.

[MSG T]

@thekapman

David Kaplan

Current baseball exec upon hearing news "There will be a ton of interest in Cubs job. You'll be shocked by the level of interest."

Running a top 3 baseball market team with a top 5 payroll in a division full of small market teams? I can't imagine how there'd be interest in a position like that.

Particularly after a press conference where the owner states flat-out that it's the GM's job to sign players and make baseball decisions and that the new GM will have carte blanche to hire whomever he wants.

 

Did Ricketts really say that in regards to players or just personel, because if that extends to players, it makes me very happy, and if neither Prince Fielder nor Albert Pujols are in a Cubs uniform come next spring, our future GM will waste no time finding his way onto the [expletive] list.

 

I don't know if you want to give an incoming GM that much power. I just fear another Soriano-type contract if you hire the wrong guy.

 

I think the intent was to say that the GM could get who he wanted, but that major contracts, ie Soriano-esque, would have to be approved by Ricketts. It sure appeared to me that he meant that most things could be worked out by the GM, with Ricketts providing a "rubber stamp".

[Hacking Out Machine]

I thought Ricketts killed it today. I am officially back on board with this team.

 

When the sabermetrics question was asked, I thought he made it pretty clear that that's probably the most important piece with the new regime. He tempered it by saying it's just a piece, but of course he's going to say that. Any of us who lean to the stats side, if put in a press conference scenario would have worded it the same way. He understands that the Cubs current culture of hacking at everything and focusing on athletes is not and has not been working. That's why there are no internal candidates, and that's the way it should be.

 

He wouldn't make silly blanket statements such as "the candidate will ned to have GM experience" because he is probably interested in our buddy Ben in Boston or Mr. Forst in Oakland in addition to the Freidmans and Daniels of the world. (though i know Daniels is not likely going anywhere).

 

Bravo Tom Ricketts. As a Cubs fan fed up with .279 .303 .362 hitting lines throughout the organization, I salute what appears to be your vision of the future direction of the Cubs.

[erik316wttn]

I don't know if you want to give an incoming GM that much power. I just fear another Soriano-type contract if you hire the wrong guy.

 

I think the intent was to say that the GM could get who he wanted, but that major contracts, ie Soriano-esque, would have to be approved by Ricketts. It sure appeared to me that he meant that most things could be worked out by the GM, with Ricketts providing a "rubber stamp".

 

If that's the case, then I approve.

[Little Slide Rooter]

@thekapman

David Kaplan

Current baseball exec upon hearing news "There will be a ton of interest in Cubs job. You'll be shocked by the level of interest."

Running a top 3 baseball market team with a top 5 payroll in a division full of small market teams? I can't imagine how there'd be interest in a position like that.

Particularly after a press conference where the owner states flat-out that it's the GM's job to sign players and make baseball decisions and that the new GM will have carte blanche to hire whomever he wants.

 

Did Ricketts really say that in regards to players or just personel, because if that extends to players, it makes me very happy, and if neither Prince Fielder nor Albert Pujols are in a Cubs uniform come next spring, our future GM will waste no time finding his way onto the [expletive] list.

 

I don't know if you want to give an incoming GM that much power. I just fear another Soriano-type contract if you hire the wrong guy. Carte blanche within reason, yes. Give him the benefit of the doubt? Sure. But throw a ridiculous contract at a guy who doesn't deserve it? The owner needs to nix that.

 

What are you expecting? 7/150 for Wilson Betemit? If we want Pujols or Fielder, it's probably going to take a bigger contract than the Soriano one. IMHO, it's what has to happen.

[Mark Priors Calves]

There's only been one GM of the Cubs during the entire history of NSBB.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ricketts just put a true stamp down on the organization. ..

 

Firing Hendry is not much of a stamp. It all depends on who he hires.

 

Shhh. The new GM of the Cubs has been announced as Not Jim Hendry, and he can do no wrong.

[erik316wttn]

 

What are you expecting? 7/150 for Wilson Betemit? If we want Pujols or Fielder, it's probably going to take a bigger contract than the Soriano one. IMHO, it's what has to happen.

 

No, of course I'm not expecting a contract like that. If we want Pujols or Fielder of course we'll have to pay top dollar. But I don't want to pay top dollar for a guy who doesn't deserve it, and have the contract be an albatross like Soriano's is now.

[mookie]

 

What are you expecting? 7/150 for Wilson Betemit? If we want Pujols or Fielder, it's probably going to take a bigger contract than the Soriano one. IMHO, it's what has to happen.

 

No, of course I'm not expecting a contract like that. If we want Pujols or Fielder of course we'll have to pay top dollar. But I don't want to pay top dollar for a guy who doesn't deserve it, and have the contract be an albatross like Soriano's is now.

 

Well, rest easy my friend because that won't be happening anymore. I mean, not until we win the grand taco beef prize.

[SouthSideRyan]

Stolen from BTF: Jim Hendry winds up with the 2nd best record of any Cubs GM.

[erik316wttn]

Stolen from BTF: Jim Hendry winds up with the 2nd best record of any Cubs GM.

 

Lifetime 1 whole game over .500.

 

How sad is that?

[Little Slide Rooter]

 

What are you expecting? 7/150 for Wilson Betemit? If we want Pujols or Fielder, it's probably going to take a bigger contract than the Soriano one. IMHO, it's what has to happen.

 

No, of course I'm not expecting a contract like that. If we want Pujols or Fielder of course we'll have to pay top dollar. But I don't want to pay top dollar for a guy who doesn't deserve it, and have the contract be an albatross like Soriano's is now.

 

But does anyone really DESERVE that kind of guaranteed money? With Aaron Rowand, for example, it should have been obvious that he wasn't that kind of player. Soriano, on the other hand had been a great player for his entire career, and carried it into his 1st 2 years as a Cub. He was the same age as Pujols is now when he signed the deal, though never was the player Pujols is. It's a risk you have to take. After the mess that the team is now, I can't imagine them giving a massive deal to someone like a Michael Cuddyer or Edwin jackson type, but even with Pujols or Fielder, if you give anyone a contract of that length, it's hard tp predict how long they can hold out.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Stolen from BTF: Jim Hendry winds up with the 2nd best record of any Cubs GM.

 

Jim Hendry is also the only Cubs GM who was given a bottomless check book or even the opportunity to build any kind of team, so yeah, he damn well better have had a better record than Jim Frey and Ed Lynch.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Soriano, on the other hand had been a great player for his entire career, and carried it into his 1st 2 years as a Cub. He was the same age as Pujols is now when he signed the deal, though never was the player Pujols is. It's a risk you have to take. After the mess that the team is now, I can't imagine them giving a massive deal to someone like a Michael Cuddyer or Edwin jackson type, but even with Pujols or Fielder, if you give anyone a contract of that length, it's hard tp predict how long they can hold out.

 

Pre-contract Soriano and Pujols are not in the same category of "great."

[Little Slide Rooter]

Soriano, on the other hand had been a great player for his entire career, and carried it into his 1st 2 years as a Cub. He was the same age as Pujols is now when he signed the deal, though never was the player Pujols is. It's a risk you have to take. After the mess that the team is now, I can't imagine them giving a massive deal to someone like a Michael Cuddyer or Edwin jackson type, but even with Pujols or Fielder, if you give anyone a contract of that length, it's hard tp predict how long they can hold out.

 

Pre-contract Soriano and Pujols are not in the same category of "great."