If the Cubs were sellers right now

[TruffleShuffle]

yeah i don't think that's a good thread title at all

[Tryptamine]

Pena's value continues to climb. Another few weeks of this and he could bring back a really nice prospect at the dead line.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If we're all convinced that this team wants to turn it around immediately, then why not be buyers if you can find a long-term asset like Garcia?

[TruffleShuffle]

who is garcia?

[Splendid Splinter]

who is garcia?

 

LOL I've been sitting here for like 10 minutes trying to figure that one out.... Jerry Garcia??? Sergio Garcia???

[TruffleShuffle]

if he's talking about a current major leaguer it pretty much has to be jaime or freddy, and i don't feel like either one makes a bit of sense.

[Outshined_One]

if he's talking about a current major leaguer it pretty much has to be jaime or freddy, and i don't feel like either one makes a bit of sense.

 

I don't even know what prospect he could be talking about. A quick scan of Top 100 lists does not turn up anyone named Garcia.

[Vanilla Ice]

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[Hairyducked Idiot]

Garza is Mexican for Garcia.

[davearm2]

Pena's value continues to climb. Another few weeks of this and he could bring back a really nice prospect at the dead line.

Another few weeks of this and maybe the Cubs will give him a 4-year extension and bow out of the Pujols/Fielder madness.

[Splendid Splinter]

Pena's value continues to climb. Another few weeks of this and he could bring back a really nice prospect at the dead line.

Another few weeks of this and maybe the Cubs will give him a 4-year extension and bow out of the Pujols/Fielder madness.

 

 

I rather have Prince at $18-20 mil/yr than Pena at $14 mil or so/yr (you know he's not taking less than $10 mil/yr and in the past 2 months, he's hitting like 2007-2009 version)... Plus he's 33 now so hopefully they won't give him that extension.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I wonder if Pena will be more difficult to move at the deadline than would appear. Half of his $10 million salary isn't paid to him until after the season, so he's actually going to be a pretty expensive pickup for a team at the deadline if we also are expecting to get any type of quality in return for him.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wonder if Pena will be more difficult to move at the deadline than would appear. Half of his $10 million salary isn't paid to him until after the season, so he's actually going to be a pretty expensive pickup for a team at the deadline if we also are expecting to get any type of quality in return for him.

 

The Cubs can pick up the bill.

[Tryptamine]

Pena has now hit 14 bombs and is on pace for 30. Any chance we can steal a top 100 prospect at the deadline?

[Backtobanks]

Pena has now hit 14 bombs and is on pace for 30. Any chance we can steal a top 100 prospect at the deadline?

 

Hendry's best move this year. So much for all of the wannabe GMs here who were begging for Adam Dunn.

[dew1679666265]

Pena has now hit 14 bombs and is on pace for 30. Any chance we can steal a top 100 prospect at the deadline?

 

Hendry's best move this year. So much for all of the wannabe GMs here who were begging for Adam Dunn.

 

Wanting Adam Dunn really wasn't all that crazy (and I wasn't in favor of signing Dunn). I doubt there was anybody who could have predicted Dunn would bomb this badly this early in the deal. Even the most fierce Dunn haters would have agreed that he'd be able to hit the first year or two of his deal.

[TruffleShuffle]

Pena has now hit 14 bombs and is on pace for 30. Any chance we can steal a top 100 prospect at the deadline?

 

Hendry's best move this year. So much for all of the wannabe GMs here who were begging for Adam Dunn.

 

what about all the wannabe GMs who panned hendry for signing grabow to a deal worth nearly $4m per year?

[jersey cubs fan]

I love how people defend Hendry by pointing out players that he acquired that don't completely suck. I mean the team is 30-44, 7 games back of the freaking 4th place Pirates, but their new first baseman has 14 HR (and a 790 OPS). How dare you people complain about Hendry.

[davearm2]

I love how people defend Hendry by pointing out players that he acquired that don't completely suck. I mean the team is 30-44, 7 games back of the freaking 4th place Pirates, but their new first baseman has 14 HR (and a 790 OPS). How dare you people complain about Hendry.

I didn't take that as defense of Hendry. He hasn't gotten it done and it's time for him to go.

 

IMO it was a dig at the "wannabe GMs" and their notion that if the Cubs were only smart enough to sign A and B, and trade X and Y for Z, bam they'd be awesome. Well Adam Dunn was last year's 'step A' signing.

 

Point being, if you think you could/would do better, think again. Any of us would make lots of mistakes in that job (albeit probably different ones).

[Guest]

Criticism of a GM does not equate to "I could do better", and I-told-you-sos of that nature defending Hendry/the difficulty of the GM position ring especially hollow since the Cubs aren't perennial contenders. It's mindlessly combative, since there were plenty of people who did not want Dunn or did not want him for the price he got(which is why the thread over his pursuit/signing is about 20 pages), and strips the context out of why many people wanted him to begin with.

[Backtobanks]

I love how people defend Hendry by pointing out players that he acquired that don't completely suck. I mean the team is 30-44, 7 games back of the freaking 4th place Pirates, but their new first baseman has 14 HR (and a 790 OPS). How dare you people complain about Hendry.

I didn't take that as defense of Hendry. He hasn't gotten it done and it's time for him to go.

 

IMO it was a dig at the "wannabe GMs" and their notion that if the Cubs were only smart enough to sign A and B, and trade X and Y for Z, bam they'd be awesome. Well Adam Dunn was last year's 'step A' signing.

 

Point being, if you think you could/would do better, think again. Any of us would make lots of mistakes in that job (albeit probably different ones).

 

My point about all of these discussions is that many of us (myself included) like to speculate on trades and FA signings without knowing all of the "behind the scenes" stuff. That's not a defense of Hendry, it's just that everybody else's job sure looks easy from the front of a computer monitor.

[Sammy Sofa]

Pena has now hit 14 bombs and is on pace for 30. Any chance we can steal a top 100 prospect at the deadline?

 

Hendry's best move this year. So much for all of the wannabe GMs here who were begging for Adam Dunn.

 

You're kidding, right? You're going to sit there and pretend that ANYONE predicted that Dunn would fall off a cliff this season?

[Sammy Sofa]

I love how people defend Hendry by pointing out players that he acquired that don't completely suck. I mean the team is 30-44, 7 games back of the freaking 4th place Pirates, but their new first baseman has 14 HR (and a 790 OPS). How dare you people complain about Hendry.

I didn't take that as defense of Hendry. He hasn't gotten it done and it's time for him to go.

 

IMO it was a dig at the "wannabe GMs" and their notion that if the Cubs were only smart enough to sign A and B, and trade X and Y for Z, bam they'd be awesome. Well Adam Dunn was last year's 'step A' signing.

 

Point being, if you think you could/would do better, think again. Any of us would make lots of mistakes in that job (albeit probably different ones).

 

Not signing Dunn wasn't a "smart move." It turned out to be a lucky move.

[XZero771679666304]

Pena has now hit 14 bombs and is on pace for 30. Any chance we can steal a top 100 prospect at the deadline?

 

Hendry's best move this year. So much for all of the wannabe GMs here who were begging for Adam Dunn.

 

You're kidding, right? You're going to sit there and pretend that ANYONE predicted that Dunn would fall off a cliff this season?

 

 

I thought he was going to put up monster power numbers in the Cell and I think most people felt the same way. His sudden fall off is really shocking. Anyone who says they foresaw this is almost certainly a liar. The guy had been the model of consistency for years.

 

I was not in favor of signing him to a multiyear deal, but I thought he was absolutely going to be productive offensively.

[davearm2]

Pena has now hit 14 bombs and is on pace for 30. Any chance we can steal a top 100 prospect at the deadline?

 

Hendry's best move this year. So much for all of the wannabe GMs here who were begging for Adam Dunn.

 

You're kidding, right? You're going to sit there and pretend that ANYONE predicted that Dunn would fall off a cliff this season?

Many folks argued that signing Dunn would be a mistake, given his age, skillset, price, years, etc.

 

Being right about that doesn't require that one correctly predicted he would fall off a cliff this season.