College Basketball 2011-2012

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

We've invested so much in getting Shaka that if we don't it is a failure. Even ESPN is hot on the rumor. If we don't get Shaka its like getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

 

Thomas has already devalued the job by waiving Weber around as a lame duck for well over a month. We were promised better in football and we got Zook 2.0, a guy that was like fifth on our list. If he can't deliver a guy he had a working relationship with, and can outspend, then I'm done with him.

 

You know, Beckman is undefeated at Illinois. So is whoever the next basketball coach turns out to be.

Beckman hasn't won a game at Illinois, and he's been here months already. He's had his chance.

 

It's the fact that Thomas promised a great hire, pursued it, failed, and then we were left with Beckman. I still support the football program, and hope he does well.

 

For all Guenther's faults, he still made good basketball hires, but I'm not going to sit around and support an AD that can't bring A list candidates to our supposed "top tier" basketball job. The A list candidate is Shaka, he's made the pursuit known, its all over national outlets, and now he needs to deliver.

[bukie]

It's the fact that Thomas promised a great hire, pursued it, failed, and then we were left with Beckman. I still support the football program, and hope he does well.

 

For all Guenther's faults, he still made good basketball hires, but I'm not going to sit around and support an AD that can't bring A list candidates to our supposed "top tier" basketball job. The A list candidate is Shaka, he's made the pursuit known, its all over national outlets, and now he needs to deliver.

 

To say he failed at the football hire when it's 3 months into the hire and not a single recruit has played nor a game has been played yet is a clear indication that your expectations are significantly out of whack.

 

They offered good money to their #1 football candidate and he turned it down. If they offer good money to Smart and he turns it down, how is that the AD's fault again?

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

It's the fact that Thomas promised a great hire, pursued it, failed, and then we were left with Beckman. I still support the football program, and hope he does well.

 

For all Guenther's faults, he still made good basketball hires, but I'm not going to sit around and support an AD that can't bring A list candidates to our supposed "top tier" basketball job. The A list candidate is Shaka, he's made the pursuit known, its all over national outlets, and now he needs to deliver.

 

To say he failed at the football hire when it's 3 months into the hire and not a single recruit has played nor a game has been played yet is a clear indication that your expectations are significantly out of whack.

 

They offered good money to their #1 football candidate and he turned it down. If they offer good money to Smart and he turns it down, how is that the AD's fault again?

 

It is his job to sell top tier candidates on Illinois. There's more to this than money. No one wants to work for a boss that hangs them out to dry for a month. He did Weber dirty, and the entire coaching community saw it. Like I said earlier any idiot could have fired Zook, Weber and Law, but it takes a good leader, manager, and recruiter to bring in talent.

[bukie]

I think you have been and continue to be reading way too much into things said in the media.

[XZero771679666304]

It's the fact that Thomas promised a great hire, pursued it, failed, and then we were left with Beckman. I still support the football program, and hope he does well.

 

For all Guenther's faults, he still made good basketball hires, but I'm not going to sit around and support an AD that can't bring A list candidates to our supposed "top tier" basketball job. The A list candidate is Shaka, he's made the pursuit known, its all over national outlets, and now he needs to deliver.

 

To say he failed at the football hire when it's 3 months into the hire and not a single recruit has played nor a game has been played yet is a clear indication that your expectations are significantly out of whack.

 

They offered good money to their #1 football candidate and he turned it down. If they offer good money to Smart and he turns it down, how is that the AD's fault again?

 

It is his job to sell top tier candidates on Illinois. There's more to this than money. No one wants to work for a boss that hangs them out to dry for a month. He did Weber dirty, and the entire coaching community saw it. Like I said earlier any idiot could have fired Zook, Weber and Law, but it takes a good leader, manager, and recruiter to bring in talent.

 

I don't see how Weber was "done dirty". Thomas declined to give him a empty, false endorsement when he didn't deserve one. Frankly, hearing "Bruce is our guy" and then being fired would be worse, imo.

 

Is every coach/manager who is on the hot seat and not given a lame endorsement being done dirty? I liked BAM as a person, but he wasn't wronged.

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

There's absolutely no reason an AD should go on the radio and take calls from fans about a coach's job security. That is incredibly unprofessional, especially when your relationship with said coach is non-existent.

[SouthSideRyan]

It's the fact that Thomas promised a great hire, pursued it, failed, and then we were left with Beckman. I still support the football program, and hope he does well.

 

For all Guenther's faults, he still made good basketball hires, but I'm not going to sit around and support an AD that can't bring A list candidates to our supposed "top tier" basketball job. The A list candidate is Shaka, he's made the pursuit known, its all over national outlets, and now he needs to deliver.

 

To say he failed at the football hire when it's 3 months into the hire and not a single recruit has played nor a game has been played yet is a clear indication that your expectations are significantly out of whack.

 

They offered good money to their #1 football candidate and he turned it down. If they offer good money to Smart and he turns it down, how is that the AD's fault again?

 

It is his job to sell top tier candidates on Illinois. There's more to this than money. No one wants to work for a boss that hangs them out to dry for a month. He did Weber dirty, and the entire coaching community saw it. Like I said earlier any idiot could have fired Zook, Weber and Law, but it takes a good leader, manager, and recruiter to bring in talent.

 

So did Sumlin turn the job down because he had a feeling he was going to say he'd re-evaluate Bruce Weber at the end of the year a few months after he turned them down?

[illiniguy]

It's the fact that Thomas promised a great hire, pursued it, failed, and then we were left with Beckman. I still support the football program, and hope he does well.

 

For all Guenther's faults, he still made good basketball hires, but I'm not going to sit around and support an AD that can't bring A list candidates to our supposed "top tier" basketball job. The A list candidate is Shaka, he's made the pursuit known, its all over national outlets, and now he needs to deliver.

 

To say he failed at the football hire when it's 3 months into the hire and not a single recruit has played nor a game has been played yet is a clear indication that your expectations are significantly out of whack.

 

They offered good money to their #1 football candidate and he turned it down. If they offer good money to Smart and he turns it down, how is that the AD's fault again?

 

It is his job to sell top tier candidates on Illinois. There's more to this than money. No one wants to work for a boss that hangs them out to dry for a month. He did Weber dirty, and the entire coaching community saw it. Like I said earlier any idiot could have fired Zook, Weber and Law, but it takes a good leader, manager, and recruiter to bring in talent.

 

I don't see how Weber was "done dirty". Thomas declined to give him a empty, false endorsement when he didn't deserve one. Frankly, hearing "Bruce is our guy" and then being fired would be worse, imo.

 

Is every coach/manager who is on the hot seat and not given a lame endorsement being done dirty? I liked BAM as a person, but he wasn't wronged.

Bruce done dirty, lol. He was in over his head and should have been fired two years ago. Instead he got $3.4 million in contract and a $3.9 million in buyout. Please, someone do me dirty.

[hawkeyecub]

sounds good to me. no reason to subject yourself to facing MVC teams on the road.

 

I would be fine with it occasionally, but it should at least be 2/3 or 3/4 at home. No one (at least almost no one) does a true home and home with mid-major's.

[illiniguy]

sounds good to me. no reason to subject yourself to facing MVC teams on the road.

 

I would be fine with it occasionally, but it should at least be 2/3 or 3/4 at home. No one (at least almost no one) does a true home and home with mid-major's.

Ron Guenther did with Western Michigan. Ah Ron Guenther.

[bcl412]

sounds good to me. no reason to subject yourself to facing MVC teams on the road.

 

I would be fine with it occasionally, but it should at least be 2/3 or 3/4 at home. No one (at least almost no one) does a true home and home with mid-major's.

 

On the other hand UNI is probably the best team in the state the past decade. I don't have a problem playing them home and home. Drake is pretty much useless to both schools aside from one year.

[MSG T]

sounds good to me. no reason to subject yourself to facing MVC teams on the road.

 

I would be fine with it occasionally, but it should at least be 2/3 or 3/4 at home. No one (at least almost no one) does a true home and home with mid-major's.

 

On the other hand UNI is probably the best team in the state the past decade. I don't have a problem playing them home and home. Drake is pretty much useless to both schools aside from one year.

 

That's as much from Iowa and ISU being crap for most of the last decade as it is from UNI having their best teams ever during the same decade.

Edited March 21, 2012 by MSG T

[XZero771679666304]

In hopes of luring Smart, Illinois has guaranteed facility renovations, a long-term contract and a salary near the top of the Big Ten. His annual compensation would be comparable to that of Michigan State coach Tom Izzo, who makes more than $3 million per year according to USA Today salary reports.

 

That's going to be hard to turn down.

[illiniguy]

In hopes of luring Smart, Illinois has guaranteed facility renovations, a long-term contract and a salary near the top of the Big Ten. His annual compensation would be comparable to that of Michigan State coach Tom Izzo, who makes more than $3 million per year according to USA Today salary reports.

 

That's going to be hard to turn down.

What's the hold up then? He's an idiot if he turns this down.

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

In hopes of luring Smart, Illinois has guaranteed facility renovations, a long-term contract and a salary near the top of the Big Ten. His annual compensation would be comparable to that of Michigan State coach Tom Izzo, who makes more than $3 million per year according to USA Today salary reports.

 

That's going to be hard to turn down.

What's the hold up then? He's an idiot if he turns this down.

 

Maybe he doesn't want to work under a tyrant?

[Old Style]

Why is ESPN making a big deal about that dude from Baylor dunking in a game last night?

[Sosa21MVP]

http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/kiffin-1010011-lane-cuonzo.html

[SouthSideRyan]

In hopes of luring Smart, Illinois has guaranteed facility renovations, a long-term contract and a salary near the top of the Big Ten. His annual compensation would be comparable to that of Michigan State coach Tom Izzo, who makes more than $3 million per year according to USA Today salary reports.

 

That's going to be hard to turn down.

What's the hold up then? He's an idiot if he turns this down.

 

Maybe he doesn't want to work under a tyrant?

 

Please keep it coming.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/kiffin-1010011-lane-cuonzo.html

 

Ah yes, Gail Fischer, truly the Bob Woodward of our time.

[Smack]

http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/kiffin-1010011-lane-cuonzo.html

 

Ah yes, Gail Fischer, truly the Bob Woodward of our time.

 

Yeah, that wouldn't make sense for anyone. He wouldn't even get a chance from the fans because of the Weber/Keady ties. He's got a nice gig at TN with no pressure and an AD with money. If he has success at UT (he's already landed his first 5 star) for a few years he'll be a hot commodity and can pick a better situation.

[NeifiIsMyHomeBoy]

Shaka is going on CBS tomorrow, which means we should know very soon. I'm not optimistic.

[SouthSideRyan]

which means we should know very soon. I'm not optimistic.

 

GET RIGHT OUT OF TOWN

[illiniguy]

http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/kiffin-1010011-lane-cuonzo.html

 

Ah yes, Gail Fischer, truly the Bob Woodward of our time.

 

Yeah, that wouldn't make sense for anyone. He wouldn't even get a chance from the fans because of the Weber/Keady ties. He's got a nice gig at TN with no pressure and an AD with money. If he has success at UT (he's already landed his first 5 star) for a few years he'll be a hot commodity and can pick a better situation.

Martin can go blank himself. He could have played for Illinois and didn't think we were good enough, same to you Chris Collins.

[Smack]

http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/kiffin-1010011-lane-cuonzo.html

 

Ah yes, Gail Fischer, truly the Bob Woodward of our time.

 

Yeah, that wouldn't make sense for anyone. He wouldn't even get a chance from the fans because of the Weber/Keady ties. He's got a nice gig at TN with no pressure and an AD with money. If he has success at UT (he's already landed his first 5 star) for a few years he'll be a hot commodity and can pick a better situation.

Martin can go blank himself. He could have played for Illinois and didn't think we were good enough, same to you Chris Collins.

 

He would be blanking himself if he took the UI job.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/kiffin-1010011-lane-cuonzo.html

 

Ah yes, Gail Fischer, truly the Bob Woodward of our time.

 

Yeah, that wouldn't make sense for anyone. He wouldn't even get a chance from the fans because of the Weber/Keady ties. He's got a nice gig at TN with no pressure and an AD with money. If he has success at UT (he's already landed his first 5 star) for a few years he'll be a hot commodity and can pick a better situation.

Martin can go blank himself. He could have played for Illinois and didn't think we were good enough, same to you Chris Collins.

 

He would be blanking himself if he took the UI job.

 

Easy there jaydee