Dunn to the White Sox (p. 12)

[davell]

Seems so pointless to go for a 4th OF when they already have Colvin. Also pointless to look for a reliever when they have so many arms in the farm that could be useful. It's not even like there are very "good" relievers out there that they should be spending money on.

 

It's what I think they'll do, not what I'd do at least. But, I figure they'll go get a 4th OFer as insurance for Colvin, after they trade away Fukudome.(again, not something I condone). As far as the reliever goes, while I wouldn't necessarily want to spend alot on anyone, if Cashner is somehow put into the rotation, we don't have anyone I feel comfortable with as a setup type guy, other than Marshall. Carpenter or Jay Jackson would probably be the 2 guys I'd think could grow into it, but I wouldn't mind adding a decent reliever honestly. Which I think may be possible, without spending tons of money on it for a change. You've got tons of type B free agents out there, that won't cost us a pick to sign and if you wait long enough(instead of setting the market for them, as JH loves to do) someone could easily slip thru the cracks. Between Durbin, Benoit, Balfour(type A) Crain, Frasor(type A) Guerrier(type A) Uehara, Contreras(on a one year deal) Mota(one year deal) Putz, and Rauch, surely someone could be had on a short term deal that wouldn't be a Grabow, Howry, Eyre type of deal for us in the long run. If we keep Cashner in the pen though, I agree completely that spending money on the pen is a complete waste at that point.

[Clem Fandango]

Also Nady's $3.3 million is off the books assuming they let him walk. Between arbitration raises and increase in some players salaries vs. the salaries we let go due to FA or trades, how much of a gap is there between our cap this year vs. next year right now, anyone know? I know $33mil between Lilly, Lee, Lou, and Nady alone... and Aramis actually makes $2 million less next year, so that's $35 million. How much of that will be left after the arby and salary increases? Any speculation?

 

 

What we wound up paying out last season was right at 132.5 mill and after arb raises and minimum salary guys, our 2011 payroll looks to be around 119 as of now. I expect us to add a solid 1B(hopefully Dunn), a solid reliever, a project/injury scrap starting pitcher and maybe a 4th OFer type. To do that, I also suspect Fukudome will be dumped for as much salary relief as we can get.

 

There's quite an impressive handful of those on the market, too. Well, if the ones with options aren't exercised, anyways.

 

Erik Bedard

Brandon Webb

Rich Harden

Ben Sheets

Chris Young

Justin Duchscherer

 

I think of those, Duchscherer might be the one that could be had for the lowest risk and highest reward. Then again I'm not sure what his injury status is, he seems to be injured all the damn time and I know his season was ended because of hip surgery. I'm unaware how the recovery from hip injuries affects a pitcher. I would imagine it does greatly

[SweetZombieJesus]

Re: Jamie Moyer playing winterball with the Escogido Lions at age 48: Does he just hate his family?

 

Would you want to hang around that much with Digger Phelps?

[shnsajax]

Re: Jamie Moyer playing winterball with the Escogido Lions at age 48: Does he just hate his family?

 

Would you want to hang around that much with Digger Phelps?

 

HELL NO!

[Schwarber Fan]

Adam Dunn: Heyman predicts Dunn will be a Cub

Adam Dunn - 1B - WAS - Nov. 7 - 9:08 am et

 

SI.com's Jon Heyman predicts that Adam Dunn will sign with the Cubs this offseason.

It would go against what has been reported in the Chicago Sun-Times, which said GM Jim Hendry was focused "on the likes" of a first baseman like Nick Johnson. Dunn is the premier power hitter on the free agent market, but the Cubs do have the resources to go after him if they choose to do so. Nov. 7 - 9:08 am et

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=MLB&id=3304&line=308374&spln=1

[Little Slide Rooter]

We can either sign Dunn and have a figthing chance or Nick Johnson or Lyle Overbay and fight the Astros and Pirates for the celler.

[Rob]

That's stupid. The difference between Adam Dunn and Lyle Overbay is 2-3 wins.

[Post Count Padder]

Adam Dunn is moving closer to a deal, maybe with the Tigers, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. SI's Jon Heyman tweets that Dunn and the Tigers are in serious talks. The powerful left-handed slugger is known to be among Detroit's targets. He could fit as their regular left fielder, perhaps getting the occasional start at DH or first base. The Tigers have been aggressive so far this offseason, and to secure Dunn this early they'd probably have to guarantee four years.

[jersey cubs fan]

They would put him back in LF?

[javy knows my name]

If he ends up playing the majority of games in LF for an AL team...

 

I will laugh

[davell]

They would put him back in LF?

 

Can Miggy play anywhere other than 1B at this point? Would either be happy DHing possibly?

[UMFan83]

NSBB of 4 years ago would have exploded in anger at this news.

[davell]

NSBB of 4 years ago would have exploded in anger at this news.

 

 

I think it speaks as to exactly how low all of our expectations are currently.

[erik316wttn]

Adam Dunn wouldn't have been a good fit here, anyway.

 

He can't catch the ball.

[Post Count Padder]

Hold on a minute

 

2:04pm: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick tweets that a source says talk about Dunn going to the Tigers is "way too premature." Detroit likes the first baseman/outfielder/DH, but they're not that far along in talks.

[davell]

Hold on a minute

 

2:04pm: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick tweets that a source says talk about Dunn going to the Tigers is "way too premature." Detroit likes the first baseman/outfielder/DH, but they're not that far along in talks.

 

 

But, according to Stark, we don't have an interest anyway, because we have Castro at short and are unsettled at 2B and think we have to get a solid defender at 1B.

[Tracer Bullet]

Tigers were targeting Victor Martinez just last week. Did the AL add 2 DH spots?

[daske17]

This team is making it realllly hard for me to care about them.

[Southpaw191679666239]

This team is making it realllly hard for me to care about them.

 

This.

 

I hate how slowly *our* off-season always seems to move. It's like Hendry is stuck in molasses.

[davell]

I don't think our offseasons have moved slowly at all, until last year. Which makes total sense actually. We didn't have alot of money to spend then and we don't have it to throw around now either. So, we're going to have to wait out the big signings and see what, if any, bargains fall into our laps. More like a small market approach. I honestly can't say I mind either, given the current state of the team. I don't want any long term contracts given out right now(other than Dunn or Lee, but we don't have the money for them evidently) that could hamper what we can do in the future. We lose Grabow, Fukudome, Ramirez, Samardzija, and Silva after this year. Meaning we'll have 45 mill freed up at that point. That's when we'll go back to being agressive, in all likelihood......

[Cubs Fan Dan]

I don't think our offseasons have moved slowly at all, until last year. Which makes total sense actually. We didn't have alot of money to spend then and we don't have it to throw around now either. So, we're going to have to wait out the big signings and see what, if any, bargains fall into our laps. More like a small market approach. I honestly can't say I mind either, given the current state of the team. I don't want any long term contracts given out right now(other than Dunn or Lee, but we don't have the money for them evidently) that could hamper what we can do in the future. We lose Grabow, Fukudome, Ramirez, Samardzija, and Silva after this year. Meaning we'll have 45 mill freed up at that point. That's when we'll go back to being agressive, in all likelihood......

 

All the more reason to take a few chances on players like a Carlos Pena, keep the prospects and go into next year with money to spend in a much deeper 1B free agent market. The only thing that keeps me from thinking that this is Hendry's plan is the likelyhood that if the Cubs suck this year Hendry will be job searching.

[UMFan83]

Hold on a minute

 

2:04pm: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick tweets that a source says talk about Dunn going to the Tigers is "way too premature." Detroit likes the first baseman/outfielder/DH, but they're not that far along in talks.

 

 

But, according to Stark, we don't have an interest anyway, because we have Castro at short and are unsettled at 2B and think we have to get a solid defender at 1B.

 

Besides we don't need a lefty power bat anyways, we just signed Milton Bradley two yea-.....oh yeah whoops.

[Clem Fandango]

According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports, free agent first baseman Adam Dunn is seeking a four-year contract worth $60 million.

Dunn hasn't drawn a ton of interest during the early part of this offseason, but that could change at next week's Winter Meetings. He batted .260/.356/.536 this year with 38 homers and 103 RBI, and boasts one of the few legitimate power bats on this winter's open market. The Cubs are know to have interest and the White Sox could be a sleeper for his services.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports, free agent first baseman Adam Dunn is seeking a four-year contract worth $60 million.

Dunn hasn't drawn a ton of interest during the early part of this offseason, but that could change at next week's Winter Meetings. He batted .260/.356/.536 this year with 38 homers and 103 RBI, and boasts one of the few legitimate power bats on this winter's open market. The Cubs are know to have interest and the White Sox could be a sleeper for his services.

 

Those stats are nice but how many runs does he drive in with his glove?

[bleedingblue]

According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports, free agent first baseman Adam Dunn is seeking a four-year contract worth $60 million.

Dunn hasn't drawn a ton of interest during the early part of this offseason, but that could change at next week's Winter Meetings. He batted .260/.356/.536 this year with 38 homers and 103 RBI, and boasts one of the few legitimate power bats on this winter's open market. The Cubs are know to have interest and the White Sox could be a sleeper for his services.

 

Those stats are nice but how many runs does he drive in with his glove?

 

Who cares? The Cubs have sucked scoring runs the past 2 years. They need his bat in the lineup.