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Move Glaus to 3B, give us Kimbrel for Lee.

 

I posted this when Chipper got hurt. Please let this be true. :beg:

 

Prado will probably see more action at third, with Infante getting more time at second.

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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.
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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.

 

you're probably right. this is a big one.

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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.

 

Wouldn't that be true regardless of this possible trade?

Or would Lee have returned on a short-term (cheap) deal?

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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.

 

Wouldn't that be true regardless of this possible trade?

Or would Lee have returned on a short-term (cheap) deal?

 

I think there's a chance Lee could have come back on a shorter and/or cheaper deal, but you're right that the basic point holds true regardless of whether or not he's dealt. If he is traded though, he's probably not coming back, and that's one less option and leaves them completely barren at the position heading into the offseason.

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According to David Kaplan of CSNChicago.com, the Braves are close to acquiring Derrek Lee.

Kaplan calls the deal "nearly done." Lee reserves the right to veto any trade -- and reportedly nixed a deal to the Angels last month -- but sources tell Kaplan that he will be willing to waive his no-trade clause because the Braves are in first place in the National League East. The Braves are hurting after the loss of Chipper Jones, but we're not sure Lee is a significant upgrade over Troy Glaus at this point. It could certainly happen, but we'll believe it when we see it.

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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.

 

Wouldn't that be true regardless of this possible trade?

Or would Lee have returned on a short-term (cheap) deal?

 

I think there's a chance Lee could have come back on a shorter and/or cheaper deal, but you're right that the basic point holds true regardless of whether or not he's dealt. If he is traded though, he's probably not coming back, and that's one less option and leaves them completely barren at the position heading into the offseason.

Why would he not come back (assuming we want him back)? I thought he said he didn't want to uproot his family. Well he can go play for the Braves for a few months and have a shot at another ring and then come back to the Cubs next year. That way his family doesn't have to go anywhere.

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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.

 

Wouldn't that be true regardless of this possible trade?

Or would Lee have returned on a short-term (cheap) deal?

 

I think there's a chance Lee could have come back on a shorter and/or cheaper deal, but you're right that the basic point holds true regardless of whether or not he's dealt. If he is traded though, he's probably not coming back, and that's one less option and leaves them completely barren at the position heading into the offseason.

Why would he not come back (assuming we want him back)? I thought he said he didn't want to uproot his family. Well he can go play for the Braves for a few months and have a shot at another ring and then come back to the Cubs next year. That way his family doesn't have to go anywhere.

 

Well, there's a very real chance that the Cubs don't want him back. Trading a guy away for a 6 weeks just to bring him back isn't really Hendry's MO. Considering how much of a "player's GM" he is, coming back to Lee for a waiver deal after he's already rejected one sends the message that he's not part of the team's plans going forward.

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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.

 

Wouldn't that be true regardless of this possible trade?

Or would Lee have returned on a short-term (cheap) deal?

 

I think there's a chance Lee could have come back on a shorter and/or cheaper deal, but you're right that the basic point holds true regardless of whether or not he's dealt. If he is traded though, he's probably not coming back, and that's one less option and leaves them completely barren at the position heading into the offseason.

Why would he not come back (assuming we want him back)? I thought he said he didn't want to uproot his family. Well he can go play for the Braves for a few months and have a shot at another ring and then come back to the Cubs next year. That way his family doesn't have to go anywhere.

 

Well, there's a very real chance that the Cubs don't want him back. Trading a guy away for a 6 weeks just to bring him back isn't really Hendry's MO. Considering how much of a "player's GM" he is, coming back to Lee for a waiver deal after he's already rejected one sends the message that he's not part of the team's plans going forward.

 

Bruce said a few days ago that he would be very surprised if Lee came back. He said that some Cubs officials apparently prefer a left-handed hitter at first base.

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I don't want to be melodramatic, but if the Cubs screw up with 1B this offseason, they're probably done for the next 3 years or so.

 

Wouldn't that be true regardless of this possible trade?

Or would Lee have returned on a short-term (cheap) deal?

 

I think there's a chance Lee could have come back on a shorter and/or cheaper deal, but you're right that the basic point holds true regardless of whether or not he's dealt. If he is traded though, he's probably not coming back, and that's one less option and leaves them completely barren at the position heading into the offseason.

Why would he not come back (assuming we want him back)? I thought he said he didn't want to uproot his family. Well he can go play for the Braves for a few months and have a shot at another ring and then come back to the Cubs next year. That way his family doesn't have to go anywhere.

 

The problem is that it is being said that he is building a new home in southern California. Playing for anyone other than the Padres, Angels or Dodgers next year would "uproot" his family. My guess is that he is either A) full of [expletive] by saying he doesn't want to uproot his family, B) will sign a cheap contract with a California team in order to be close to his family or C) will retire after the season.

 

Lee seems like a pretty good guy, so I doubt it's A, but you never know. I think it's within reason that this is Lee's last year. Consider his daughter's health problems, his own health problems, his declining production and the end of his contract, now may be a good time for him to ride off into the sunset. Accepting a deal with a contender with a shot at playing for a championship would be a nice way to finish up for him. If he's traded, I wish him the best.

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Bruce said a few days ago that he would be very surprised if Lee came back. He said that some Cubs officials apparently prefer a left-handed hitter at first base.

If the Cubs sign Dunn, I'll be willing to overlook that the move was predicated upon an irrational fascination with "handedness".

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Interesting indeed.

If this happens, 1B will be brutal for the remainder of the Cubs season though.

No way, we have Colvin.

 

Even in a thread about Derrek Lee being traded to Atlanta, there has to be a random, out of nowhere shot at Tyler Colvin.

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Interesting indeed.

If this happens, 1B will be brutal for the remainder of the Cubs season though.

No way, we have Colvin.

 

Even in a thread about Derrek Lee being traded to Atlanta, there has to be a random, out of nowhere shot at Tyler Colvin.

 

It's a reference to a post that mentioned playing him at 1B.

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First Base FA's this offseason per Cots...I added the lefty notation since that was mentioned earlier in the thread...

 

* - player whose current contract includes 2011 option

 

+ - player bats lefty or switch

 

Adam Dunn WAS +

Lance Berkman NYY * +

Wes Helms FLA

Jason Giambi COL +

Paul Konerko CWS

Derrek Lee CHC

David Ortiz BOS * +

Lyle Overbay TOR +

Carlos Pena TB +

Albert Pujols STL *

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