College Basketball 2010-11

[Guest]

Yeah, Mizzou has to overpay if they're going after a BCS conference coach because they aren't a top tier job, but Painter is a really good coach. The only possible worry I can think of with him is that his recruiting trailed off a little after Martin left. It could be all reports with the same source, but it seems like Painter is looking because of how annoyed he is with Purdue's Athletic Dept. as much as the money.

 

TT, could you explain why you think this? I don't get it.

 

Top 25 in Pomeroy each of the last 5 years, finished 2nd in the Big 10 the last 4 years. His teams play great defense and don't turn the ball over. Even without considering the alternatives for Mizzou are guys like Marshall or Jacobson, what's not to like?

[Flames24Rulz]

Kelvin Sampson is available.

as is Lickliter, National Coach of the Year 5 years more recently than Sampson

 

As is Chris Lowery if Purdue wants to stay in the SIU coaching tree. Why wouldn't they want to do that?

[Butterscup1679666578]

I bet Painter decides to go to Mizzou but is somehow declared ineligible.

[SouthSideRyan]

I bet Painter decides to go to Mizzou but is somehow declared ineligible.

 

I'm pretty disappointed that none of us haters came up with that joke.

[SpongeWorthy]

Anyone read what was put on Yahoo sports yesterday by Brad Evans?

 

Host: Does Brad Stevens stay or does he leave?

 

Evans: I think he is going to stick around. Look it's going to take the perfect job in order to wrest away Brad Stevens away from Indianapolis. You know, one point I do want to bring up is this. An hour and a half west of Indianapolis is Champaign, IL. Lot of unrest there in CU right now with Bruce Weber. Obviously Weber's leash is still a little bit long [but] it's definitely tightened up. Let's say Stevens sticks around at Butler through next year, Weber has another lackluster season with marquee talent coming in, a top recruiting class. I wouldn't be at all surprised that could be ultimately the step that propels Brad Stevens to the high major stage and he travels west to Champaign, but only in those circumstances. I don't think the Tennessee job, the Providence job, or really any other job that is available I would see Brad Stevens leaving Butler for.

 

I don't think Stevens is a realistic option for Illinois. He's going to stay at Butler for at least another year and then we'll see what happens with Crean at IU.

 

So he's not a realistic option because Illinois can't make a case for being a better job than a terrible Indiana team?

 

That's pretty sad.

 

I don't think Stevens is a realistic option for anyone right now.

 

Loser talk.

 

It's [expletive] Butler.

[SouthSideRyan]

And it's [expletive] Gonzaga.

[davell]

I think Stevens will leave. But, not until he gets a Duke/UNC/Kansas/UCLA/Kentucky(maybe if they don't get probation after Cal) type of offer. And that ain't happening this offseason.

[SpongeWorthy]

And it's [expletive] Gonzaga.

 

Few has never taken Gonzaga as far as Stevens has taken Butler the past couple seasons. Plus for every Mark Few there are 10 other guys who went on to bigger and better programs (in theory).

[SouthSideRyan]

And it's [expletive] Gonzaga.

 

Few has never taken Gonzaga as far as Stevens has taken Butler the past couple seasons. Plus for every Mark Few there are 10 other guys who went on to bigger and better programs (in theory).

 

Few's done it for 12 seasons, Stevens for 4. The point is, not every guy is looking to jump to the next spot. You honestly think teams with openings last year didn't inquire about Stevens?

[SpongeWorthy]

And it's [expletive] Gonzaga.

 

Few has never taken Gonzaga as far as Stevens has taken Butler the past couple seasons. Plus for every Mark Few there are 10 other guys who went on to bigger and better programs (in theory).

 

Few's done it for 12 seasons, Stevens for 4. The point is, not every guy is looking to jump to the next spot. You honestly think teams with openings last year didn't inquire about Stevens?

 

99% of guys that aren't looking to jump to a bigger spot are already in one of the biggest spots--they're not in Butler. Hell, even K is linked to the Lakers every time that job opens up. Sure there are guys like Mark Few but that's the exception that proves the rule.

[Flames24Rulz]

And it's [expletive] Gonzaga.

 

Few has never taken Gonzaga as far as Stevens has taken Butler the past couple seasons. Plus for every Mark Few there are 10 other guys who went on to bigger and better programs (in theory).

 

Few's done it for 12 seasons, Stevens for 4. The point is, not every guy is looking to jump to the next spot. You honestly think teams with openings last year didn't inquire about Stevens?

 

99% of guys that aren't looking to jump to a bigger spot are already in one of the biggest spots--they're not in Butler. Hell, even K is linked to the Lakers every time that job opens up. Sure there are guys like Mark Few but that's the exception that proves the rule.

 

I believe that Stevens is the exception to the rule too. If one of the high profile jobs becomes available, then sure I could see him leaving. If Painter were to actually leave Purdue, I can't see Stevens going to Purdue either.

[MSG T]

Kelvin Sampson is available.

as is Lickliter, National Coach of the Year 5 years more recently than Sampson

 

The guy who won less than 40 games at Iowa?

 

I know it won't happen, but, I think he'd be a great fit at Illinois. Do it now.

[SpongeWorthy]

And it's [expletive] Gonzaga.

 

Few has never taken Gonzaga as far as Stevens has taken Butler the past couple seasons. Plus for every Mark Few there are 10 other guys who went on to bigger and better programs (in theory).

 

Few's done it for 12 seasons, Stevens for 4. The point is, not every guy is looking to jump to the next spot. You honestly think teams with openings last year didn't inquire about Stevens?

 

99% of guys that aren't looking to jump to a bigger spot are already in one of the biggest spots--they're not in Butler. Hell, even K is linked to the Lakers every time that job opens up. Sure there are guys like Mark Few but that's the exception that proves the rule.

 

I believe that Stevens is the exception to the rule too. If one of the high profile jobs becomes available, then sure I could see him leaving. If Painter were to actually leave Purdue, I can't see Stevens going to Purdue either.

 

Illinois becomes a high profile job as soon as Stevens steps on campus. Back up the dump truck full of cash and he'll consider it.

[Exile on Waveland]

Sweet lord take Weber Purdue.

 

I was just going to say, Weber to Purdue then Illinois can hire Pearl! =D>

 

:P

 

Shaka to Illinois. Sounds perfect.

 

Did anyone think Smart was a good coach before his team unjustly got into the tournament? He's lead VCU to a 5th and 4th place finish in the CAA with Anthony Grant's recruits.

 

I'm with you here. What, exactly, distinguishes him from the dozens of other coaches that made cinderalla runs in the NCAA Tournament then bombed out at a bigger/better school? The answer, I'm sure, will be that those other coaches did not make the Final Four. But is that really dispositive? A couple extra tournament wins isn't a whole lot of information to make a decision on.

 

It's hard for me to say definitively that Smart is a coaching savant because his team is shooting 44% from 3-point range over five tournament games.

[imb]

Not that this has anything to do with the conversation here of Illini fans pretending to be relevant, but I want to kill everyone who is in favor of re-seeding in final fours

[Guest]

Sweet lord take Weber Purdue.

 

I was just going to say, Weber to Purdue then Illinois can hire Pearl! =D>

 

:P

 

Shaka to Illinois. Sounds perfect.

 

Did anyone think Smart was a good coach before his team unjustly got into the tournament? He's lead VCU to a 5th and 4th place finish in the CAA with Anthony Grant's recruits.

 

I'm with you here. What, exactly, distinguishes him from the dozens of other coaches that made cinderalla runs in the NCAA Tournament then bombed out at a bigger/better school? The answer, I'm sure, will be that those other coaches did not make the Final Four. But is that really dispositive? A couple extra tournament wins isn't a whole lot of information to make a decision on.

 

It's hard for me to say definitively that Smart is a coaching savant because his team is shooting 44% from 3-point range over five tournament games.

 

VCU has played some pretty great defense in this tournament too. The only team to reach 1.00 points per possession is Purdue, and VCU ran them out of the building.

[SouthSideRyan]

You think it was VCU's defense that made KU shoot 2% from 3 pt range and 11% from the FT line?

[SouthSideRyan]

Illinois becomes a high profile job as soon as Stevens steps on campus. Back up the dump truck full of cash and he'll consider it.

 

Wonder why no other AD considered this.

 

How bout we make the bowls the playoff sites!!??

[Guest]

You think it was VCU's defense that made KU shoot 2% from 3 pt range and 11% from the FT line?

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that all of USC, Georgetown, Purdue, Florida State, and Kansas had a lot of trouble scoring.

[SouthSideRyan]

USC and FSU aren't good offensive teams. Purdue scored 76 at a 66 possession pace. (After being held to less than a point/possession their previous 3 games - St. Peter's, MSU, Iowa) Georgetown hadn't scored > 1/possession in a month. I'm not trying to take anything away from VCU, but I'm pretty dubious about crediting Smart with coming up with some great defensive gameplan after we already have an entire regular season's worth of mediocrity to draw from.

[SouthSideRyan]

If VCU beats Butler, they'll set a modern record for games played in a season.

[SpongeWorthy]

Illinois becomes a high profile job as soon as Stevens steps on campus. Back up the dump truck full of cash and he'll consider it.

 

Wonder why no other AD considered this.

 

How bout we make the bowls the playoff sites!!??

 

Are we not talking about the school that thinks Ron Zook and Bruce Weber are the best available options for its two most important athletic programs?

[SouthSideRyan]

Illinois becomes a high profile job as soon as Stevens steps on campus. Back up the dump truck full of cash and he'll consider it.

 

Wonder why no other AD considered this.

 

How bout we make the bowls the playoff sites!!??

 

Are we not talking about the school that thinks Ron Zook and Bruce Weber are the best available options for its two most important athletic programs?

 

3 years running you refuse to understand how there can be a disconnect between fans and the AD

[Guest]

USC and FSU aren't good offensive teams. Purdue scored 76 at a 66 possession pace. (After being held to less than a point/possession their previous 3 games - St. Peter's, MSU, Iowa) Georgetown hadn't scored > 1/possession in a month. I'm not trying to take anything away from VCU, but I'm pretty dubious about crediting Smart with coming up with some great defensive gameplan after we already have an entire regular season's worth of mediocrity to draw from.

 

I'm not saying he's Thibodeau incarnate, I'm just saying their run has been more than "underdog rains threes at a ridiculous rate".

[SouthSideRyan]

Who's paying for the dump truck of money btw?