SUPERBOWL XLIV (2.7.10)

[OleMissCub]

Also, I think alot of the stuff Gregg Williams is saying about roughing up Manning and all that stuff is just a smokescreen. I don't think the Saints are going to blitz that much.

 

I think he exaggerated a bit with the comments, but I do think the Saints will blitz some because that's what Gregg Williams does. He'll just have to be creative with timing, where the guys come from, etc.

 

The Saints have to at least try to blitz. If it doesn't work and you can't get to Manning, then switch things up. But they can't just sit back from the start.

 

They didn't blitz Brady all that much during the Patriots game and it worked quite well.

[dew1679666265]

Also, I think alot of the stuff Gregg Williams is saying about roughing up Manning and all that stuff is just a smokescreen. I don't think the Saints are going to blitz that much.

 

I think he exaggerated a bit with the comments, but I do think the Saints will blitz some because that's what Gregg Williams does. He'll just have to be creative with timing, where the guys come from, etc.

 

The Saints have to at least try to blitz. If it doesn't work and you can't get to Manning, then switch things up. But they can't just sit back from the start.

 

They didn't blitz Brady all that much during the Patriots game and it worked quite well.

 

The Patriots played a really, really bad game too. It's hard to expect that bad a performance to happen twice in a year – especially against the best QB in the NFL.

[JimSorgi]

People that believe karma has an impact on football games are [expletive] morons. Also, I'm not going to claim to be an expert on karma, but from what I've learned from Fallout 3, you earn good karma for doing good deeds and bad karma for doing evil deeds. I don't think resting starters is an evil deed. An evil deed would be like eating a box full of puppies or something.

[jersey cubs fan]

People that believe karma has an impact on football games are [expletive] morons. Also, I'm not going to claim to be an expert on karma, but from what I've learned from Fallout 3, you earn good karma for doing good deeds and bad karma for doing evil deeds. I don't think resting starters is an evil deed. An evil deed would be like eating a box full of puppies or something.

 

but not the whole box

[Soul]

Also, I think alot of the stuff Gregg Williams is saying about roughing up Manning and all that stuff is just a smokescreen. I don't think the Saints are going to blitz that much.

 

I think he exaggerated a bit with the comments, but I do think the Saints will blitz some because that's what Gregg Williams does. He'll just have to be creative with timing, where the guys come from, etc.

 

The Saints have to at least try to blitz. If it doesn't work and you can't get to Manning, then switch things up. But they can't just sit back from the start.

 

They didn't blitz Brady all that much during the Patriots game and it worked quite well.

 

The Patriots played a really, really bad game too. It's hard to expect that bad a performance to happen twice in a year – especially against the best QB in the NFL.

 

I can't remember a time when Manning has struggled when he had time to throw.

[dew1679666265]

I can't remember a time when Manning has struggled when he had time to throw.

 

Yeah, if he has time, he'll just pick a defense apart. The way to beat Peyton (not foolproof, obviously) is to confuse him and continue to do so. You can't be predictable or repeat pretty much anything. If you do, he'll pick up on it like he did against the Jets and torch you. A mixture of blitzes and coverage would be the best strategy, I think.

[hardcorecubfan]

can't believe The Who are playing the halftime show. How tired.

 

and they're doing a medley, some of which will be mimed to over a track.

 

I can here the kids now, "Why did they get the CSI theme guys to do the superbowl?

[OleMissCub]

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/mapa.jpg

 

 

LA and MS. That sounds about right. I'm guessing the Saints support in New England is really just Colts hate.

[OleMissCub]

FINALLY, one of these stupid lists that isn't....well, stupid.

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=74&articleid=34695

 

reasons the Saints can win:

 

1. They run well out of passing formations

 

The underrated Colts defense stuffed the Ravens and Jets' strong running attacks in successive weeks. But the Colts knew what was coming. Against the Saints, the Colts will have to be stout even when they have five or six defensive backs on the field. The Patriots had great success against the Colts by running out of the shotgun. We can see Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush both finding room to run when the Colts are expecting a pass.

 

3. Brees can move

 

Brees has overtaken Tom Brady as the best quarterback in football at moving inside the pocket. Robert Mathis and possibly Dwight Freeney and create matchup problems on the outside, but Brees has the uncanny ability to duck, retreat, move up, and do everything else he can to create a throwing lane. So often we see speedy defensive ends go right past Brees as he moves to the side, shuffles forward, and completes a pass.

 

4. Biggest weakness won't be exposed

 

Let's be honest: the Saints' rush defense stinks. It started off the year well, but has struggled consistently since. In many ways, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' defense is smoke, mirrors, and blitzes. The Vikings were in a two-month slump on the ground before running all over the Saints. Luckily for New Orleans, the Colts are one of the only teams the Saints may be able to stop on the ground. The Colts finished dead last in the NFL in yards-per-carry during the regular season.

 

6. A shutdown corner of their own

 

Jabari Greer may be the single most underrated player in this game. According to the numbers done by our friends at FootballOutsiders.com, only Darrelle Revis was better in coverage this season than Greer. The incredible free agent signing will match up with Reggie Wayne. Unlike most cornerbacks, he'll have a fighting chance.

 

8. No one to take away

 

You can look at the Saints' spread-the-wealth offense a few ways. They don't have a truly dominant receiver, but they also have five players on any given play that can win one-on-one matchups. Colston's size will be tough for Indy's small cornerbacks to handle. Henderson and Meachem can out-run anyone on the Colts. Even linebackers as speedy as the Colts will struggle to cover the New Orleans running backs.

 

11. Continuity

 

Sean Payton's insanely intricate offense has built four years to this moment. From the offensive line to the receivers, these players have grown up in this system. It's so rare in the NFL, but most of the Saints offense has played together for years. This familiarity opens up the playbook and ideally will make it easier to remain calm in the biggest games of their lives.

[cubweiser03]

Yeah this game's matchup's are going to be really interesting. With both offenses full throttle its about RZ defense to me. FG's are a victory for a defense. Turnovers and flipping the field are always big and NO is better but that was front loaded in the beginning of the season. The first 10 games of the season Saints team wins this game, if they can regain that im in their corner. They blew out people this year at a much higher rate and higher margin than Indy and i look at that as the best of NO beats the best of Indy. You could break this thing down so many ways and decide on one team and then still be torn like a sheet in the wind. Ill be 3 sheets to the wind and not because of the matchups. Great football to be had.

[JimSorgi]

FINALLY, one of these stupid lists that isn't....well, stupid.

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=74&articleid=34695

 

reasons the Saints can win:

 

1. They run well out of passing formations

 

The underrated Colts defense stuffed the Ravens and Jets' strong running attacks in successive weeks. But the Colts knew what was coming. Against the Saints, the Colts will have to be stout even when they have five or six defensive backs on the field. The Patriots had great success against the Colts by running out of the shotgun. We can see Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush both finding room to run when the Colts are expecting a pass.

 

3. Brees can move

 

Brees has overtaken Tom Brady as the best quarterback in football at moving inside the pocket. Robert Mathis and possibly Dwight Freeney and create matchup problems on the outside, but Brees has the uncanny ability to duck, retreat, move up, and do everything else he can to create a throwing lane. So often we see speedy defensive ends go right past Brees as he moves to the side, shuffles forward, and completes a pass.

 

4. Biggest weakness won't be exposed

 

Let's be honest: the Saints' rush defense stinks. It started off the year well, but has struggled consistently since. In many ways, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' defense is smoke, mirrors, and blitzes. The Vikings were in a two-month slump on the ground before running all over the Saints. Luckily for New Orleans, the Colts are one of the only teams the Saints may be able to stop on the ground. The Colts finished dead last in the NFL in yards-per-carry during the regular season.

 

6. A shutdown corner of their own

 

Jabari Greer may be the single most underrated player in this game. According to the numbers done by our friends at FootballOutsiders.com, only Darrelle Revis was better in coverage this season than Greer. The incredible free agent signing will match up with Reggie Wayne. Unlike most cornerbacks, he'll have a fighting chance.

 

8. No one to take away

 

You can look at the Saints' spread-the-wealth offense a few ways. They don't have a truly dominant receiver, but they also have five players on any given play that can win one-on-one matchups. Colston's size will be tough for Indy's small cornerbacks to handle. Henderson and Meachem can out-run anyone on the Colts. Even linebackers as speedy as the Colts will struggle to cover the New Orleans running backs.

 

11. Continuity

 

Sean Payton's insanely intricate offense has built four years to this moment. From the offensive line to the receivers, these players have grown up in this system. It's so rare in the NFL, but most of the Saints offense has played together for years. This familiarity opens up the playbook and ideally will make it easier to remain calm in the biggest games of their lives.

 

 

but what about the karma and hurricane katrina and who dat? And no mention of the Saints playing for a city(and the entire country) while the Colts are only playing for their own selfish pride? That Rosenthal fellow sure has some crazy ideas.

[OleMissCub]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

[TruffleShuffle]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

peyton manning being awesome at football has a lot more to do with the game than katrina or who dat.

[CubbieBum]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

peyton manning being awesome at football has a lot more to do with the game than katrina or who dat.

 

Depends on how you look at it. Katrina is why Brees signed with New Orleans and still serves as the inspiration for a lot of players.

[hawkeyecub]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

peyton manning being awesome at football has a lot more to do with the game than katrina or who dat.

 

Depends on how you look at it. Katrina is why Brees signed with New Orleans and still serves as the inspiration for a lot of players.

 

Oh how [expletive] naive can you be? Serves as the inspiration for a lot of players? Give me a break. They're inspired by money, winning and doing their damn job. It was 4.5 years ago. How many Saints were even on the roster then or the next season? Stop buying into all of the worthless stories that come out of this week. No player is thinking about that damn flood during the game.

You would fit in with the majority of sports media. It's the easy, lazy, schmaltzy story to write. It has nothing to do with anything. Even if they win, New Orleans will still have the same problems next week that it has right now.

[TruffleShuffle]

yes i'm sure that brees signed with new orleans because of hurricane katrina, not because they offered him the most money and had the most confidence that his shoulder was fine.

[OleMissCub]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

peyton manning being awesome at football has a lot more to do with the game than katrina or who dat.

 

did I say otherwise?

 

I said we're tired of hearing about it and just want to play ball.

[OleMissCub]

someone put a flag on the Joan of Arc statue on Decatur street :-)

 

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/Joan-with-Saints-flag-002.jpg

[ScrubMD]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

peyton manning being awesome at football has a lot more to do with the game than katrina or who dat.

 

Depends on how you look at it. Katrina is why Brees signed with New Orleans and still serves as the inspiration for a lot of players.

 

No, because of Katrina, Brees wanted to play for the Dolphins. They were his first choice because of how uncertain the Saints' future was. You're wrong about everything you said here.

[rocket]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

peyton manning being awesome at football has a lot more to do with the game than katrina or who dat.

 

Depends on how you look at it. Katrina is why Brees signed with New Orleans and still serves as the inspiration for a lot of players.

 

No, because of Katrina, Brees wanted to play for the Dolphins. They were his first choice because of how uncertain the Saints' future was. You're wrong about everything you said here.

 

actually he's the football know it all, in case you haven't heard. i wouldn't second guess him.

[SouthSideRyan]

Katrina's why I took my current job too. It's actually why I moved to Wrigleyville, and what guided me to go to Burger King at 3 AM last night.

 

TELL ME MY NEXT MOVE LORD KATRINA

[OleMissCub]

I was just as tired of hearing about the Katrina thing back during the 2006 playoffs (when it actually mattered a bit).

 

As someone said earlier, it's just lazy writing.

[ScrubMD]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

I kind of doubt Jesus would be able to throw as tight of a spiral as Manning unless He cheated and used His God powers...and Jesus doesn't seem like the cheating type to me.

 

Advantage Colts.

[hardcorecubfan]

I'm sure Colts fans are just as tired of hearing about all that happy horseisht about "the city" as we are of hearing about Jesus with cleats aka Peyton Manning. Let's play already.

 

I kind of doubt Jesus would be able to throw as tight of a spiral as Manning unless He cheated and used His God powers...and Jesus doesn't seem like the cheating type to me.

 

Advantage Colts.

 

He use to cast out a pretty mean fishing net and for the long throw he cast some demons pretty far. It'd be close.

 

I am just surprised Ole Miss would not bow down to a fellow southerner. Brees is just a lost yankee

[CubbieBum]

yes i'm sure that brees signed with new orleans because of hurricane katrina, not because they offered him the most money and had the most confidence that his shoulder was fine.

 

Let's talk about lazy. Is being lazy not reading anything said by Brees or Sean Payton and just assuming stuff based on absolutely nothing but your own ideas or is lazy reading about why Brees decided to sign and watching interviews where Payton and Brees talk about it? ESPN the Mag just had a story on this an issue ago. Payton was taking Brees to the airport and he was going to fly to Miami. Brees said he was leaning towards Miami but then Payton missed a turn and got into a neighborhood that was destroyed (claims it wasn't on purpose). Brees saw the damage and told Payton he was going to sign with the Saints because he felt a calling to help the city. So yes Brees signed because of Katrina.

 

As for the other players I guess you would have to live here. All the residents still talk about Katrina all the time and it is brought up to the players a lot by the local media. Almost all the players say one of the reasons they want to win is to give the city something good after Katrina and a Super bowl win may help get the city rebuilt faster (much of it still isn't rebuilt). I have seen multiple interviews this season with players who talk about Katrina. One was with Shockey who said he didn't realize how Katrina still affected the city and how much it meant to the city until he got here.

 

Katrina is a fresh wound still to many people down here because their lives are still not back to what it was before. Also all the people I have talked to said that the Saints was all they had for awhile especially when they were living elsewhere right after the storm. What the media has said about the Saints being the face of the city ever since Katrina is true and anyone who lived here before the storm and is still here now will tell you that.

 

So you guys may not agree or understand (I still don't really) but Katrina still affects the city AND the Saints heavily even though it is 4.5 years later.