Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[Guest]

8:48am: Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that the "Rays are growing less hopeful of swapping Burrell to the Cubs."

 

A good GM is currently at the winter meetings looking for ways to improve his team from the previous season. Our GM is at the meetings looking for ways to undo the mistakes he made the previous season.

 

It's awesome!

 

Makes me wonder what Jeromy Burnitz is doing today. Hendry ended up taking until February to finally be rid of Sosa, and he then signed Burnitz 3 days later and attempted to spin it off as if he made the finest signing of the entire offseason. Remember him firing off all those Colorado stats as if Burnitz would even remotely reach those numbers as a Cub?

 

Yeah, that's exactly what fans were hoping for in 2005 after a very disappointing 2004 season. It seems we have come full circle. Bradley plays the same position, wears the same number and is wanted out of Chicago as badly as Sosa was.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Appears as if the trade has gone down...

 

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/92/2009/december/07/burrell-traded-to-mets.html

 

No names yet, but Burrell to the Mets via the Cubs.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Appears as if the trade has gone down...

 

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/92/2009/december/07/burrell-traded-to-mets.html

 

No names yet, but Burrell to the Mets via the Cubs.

 

Im not a Luis Castillo fan by any means, but at this point, I hope to God thats who we get because the only other option I can think of is Oliver Perez. Hopefully we can just turn around, sign Camreron and call it an off season.

[Southpaw191679666239]

Color me skeptical for now... but I have all my websites on auto-reload.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Looks like this ones amde its way to rotoworld

 

Pat Burrell-DH-Rays Dec. 7 - 11:39 am et

 

Tom Haines of PhillyBurbs.com reports that Rays outfielder-designated hitter Pat Burrell has been traded to the Mets.

 

Take this report with an extreme grain of salt. According to Haines, Burrell was traded to the Cubs, then swapped to the Mets. Obviously, this could be as part of the rumored three-way deal involving Milton Bradley and Luis Castillo, but this is the only outlet reporting the trade at the moment. Stay tuned.

[Bull]

I'm confused as to who the second DH in 2007 was. The rest of the outfield was pretty strong defensively.

 

Not sure, but I don't think he was making commentary on defense. I think he was calling Fox and Reed primarily PH's. Or maybe he was saying Hoffpauir and Fox were primarily PH's.

 

Actually, I have no idea what he meant.

 

It is pretty obvious he is talking about Floyd and Ward. The fact that they both rarely if ever played at the same time hurts the point of his argument a bit but I don't think it is too hard to figure out that is who he was referring to since he mentioned them in his first sentence.

 

Ward and Floyd is correct. They were both on the 2007 team, and neither were much good with the glove. My arguement is if we had 2 guys like that on the 2007 team, we could live with 1, Burrell next year if we were to get him for Bradley and sign Cameron.

I totally glossed over the 2007 part.

[Sever82]

Looks like this ones amde its way to rotoworld

 

Pat Burrell-DH-Rays Dec. 7 - 11:39 am et

 

Tom Haines of PhillyBurbs.com reports that Rays outfielder-designated hitter Pat Burrell has been traded to the Mets.

 

Take this report with an extreme grain of salt. According to Haines, Burrell was traded to the Cubs, then swapped to the Mets. Obviously, this could be as part of the rumored three-way deal involving Milton Bradley and Luis Castillo, but this is the only outlet reporting the trade at the moment. Stay tuned.

 

Still sounds like Caca to me. Until Bruce Levine or Miles reports it, I dont think its true. What annoys me about thsi time of the year is that you get a lot of bloggers that dont cite sources and instead take shots in the dark in the hope that they get it right so that they attract more viewers and end up stating that they knew soomething before anyone.

[nick23]

ESPN just said this report is erroneous.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Milton Bradley Rumors: Monday

By Tim Dierkes [December 7 at 11:00am CST]

The Cubs are dead-set on trading Milton Bradley, and Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune has the latest.

 

Sullivan says the Cubs are letting Bradley's agents, the Levinson brothers, talk to other teams in an attempt to repair Bradley's reputation. Sullivan adds that the Cubs are focused on the Rays moreso than the Rangers.

 

As you might expect, it's all about money: the Rays would want the Cubs covering most of the $15MM difference (Cot's has the difference at $12.2MM) between Bradley and Pat Burrell's contracts. Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times sees Bradley's commitment as $24MM due to incentives, but most of those are awards bonuses. We've heard Rosenthal calling the Rays frontrunners for Bradley, but Joel Sherman said a few hours ago that the Rays were "growing less hopeful of swapping Burrell to the Cubs."

 

The Rangers want the Cubs assuming most of the remaining money owed to Bradley. What's more, Sullivan found one potential Rangers bidder who would want no part of Bradley if he gets the team.

 

This doesnt look like any such trade has gone down already, unless for some strange reason there was a trade in volving Burrell to the Mets with the Cubs involved without Bradley.

[nick23]

Levine now reporting the Cubs and Royals are talking about a Bradley trade.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Levine now reporting the Cubs and Royals are talking about a Bradley trade.

 

I wonder if perenial trade target David DeJesus is involved.

[nick23]

Levine now reporting the Cubs and Royals are talking about a Bradley trade.

 

I wonder if perenial trade target David DeJesus is involved.

We could do worse. Isn't he basically the same player as Cameron?

[cubsfan26]

I wonder if perenial trade target David DeJesus is involved.

 

The money wouldn't match up for DeJesus. So it would have to be Bradley for Jose Guillen(with the Cubs sending some money for 2011 for Bradley) or maybe a Bradley(and maybe another cheap player) for Gil Meche trade. Meche is owed 24m in 2010 and 2011 so the salaries are close to matching up. I dunno why the Royals would wanna get rid of Meche to get Bradley though. So Bradley/Guillen seems more likely.

[Neuby]

Meche at this point would be a steal for Bradley

[Southpaw191679666239]

11:34am: Newsday's David Lennon tweets that the Mets have no interest in Burrell, in any way.

[Cubswin11]

I wonder if perenial trade target David DeJesus is involved.

 

The money wouldn't match up for DeJesus. So it would have to be Bradley for Jose Guillen(with the Cubs sending some money for 2011 for Bradley) or maybe a Bradley(and maybe another cheap player) for Gil Meche trade. Meche is owed 24m in 2010 and 2011 so the salaries are close to matching up. I dunno why the Royals would wanna get rid of Meche to get Bradley though. So Bradley/Guillen seems more likely.

Yeah Dejesus alone doesn't make much sense. Contracts don't match up and the Cubs would have to eat a rather large portion to match them. Like you said Meche and Bradley only have a $3mil. difference in what they are owed the next two years and they have been rumored to be making him available. Juan Cruz is owed $3.25 this year with a $4 mil. option next year and Hendry is looking for a "veteran" reliever. Then there is also Farnsworth who is somehow making $4.5 this year and has a $5.25 option for next year. Also they have Callaspo who they might want to move. I wouldn't mind a Bradley, Wells/Marshall, and 1-2 Prospects (maybe 1 of Barney/Flaherty and W.Castillo) for Meche, Cruz, and 1 of Callaspo/Dejesus.

 

I want no part of Guillen.

Edited December 7, 2009 by Cubswin11

[inari]

If we ended up acquiring Jose Guillen I'm pretty sure I'd become a White Sox fan.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If we ended up acquiring Jose Guillen I'm pretty sure I'd become a White Sox fan.

 

How is Guillen that much different than Burrell?

[jersey cubs fan]

If we ended up acquiring Jose Guillen I'm pretty sure I'd become a White Sox fan.

 

How is Guillen that much different than Burrell?

 

Pat Burrell has been a damn good hitter for most of his career with a couple bad seasons, Guillen has been a horrible hitter most of his career witha couple good seasons.

[Burtonbell]

Milton Bradley Rumors: Monday

By Tim Dierkes [December 7 at 11:46am CST]

 

11:46am: ESPN Chicago's Bruce Levine says the Cubs and Royals met last night to discuss Bradley-Gil Meche scenarios. The money matches up pretty well here, as both players are signed through 2011. And don't forget the Cubs tried to sign Meche as part of the 2006-07 offseason spending spree.

 

from mlbtraderumors.com

[Transmogrified Tiger]

If we ended up acquiring Jose Guillen I'm pretty sure I'd become a White Sox fan.

 

How is Guillen that much different than Burrell?

 

Pat Burrell has been a damn good hitter for most of his career with a couple bad seasons, Guillen has been a horrible hitter most of his career witha couple good seasons.

 

And what either of them are any more is a platoon power outfielder who are aging quickly. Burrell has a better hitting pedigree, but Guillen is not a comically bad defender. In a perfect world I prefer Burrell, but if it means the difference in adding someone like Cruz as well as Guillen, I take that over Burrell every time.

[inari]

Milton Bradley Rumors: Monday

By Tim Dierkes [December 7 at 11:46am CST]

 

11:46am: ESPN Chicago's Bruce Levine says the Cubs and Royals met last night to discuss Bradley-Gil Meche scenarios. The money matches up pretty well here, as both players are signed through 2011. And don't forget the Cubs tried to sign Meche as part of the 2006-07 offseason spending spree.

 

from mlbtraderumors.com

 

Definitely couldn't complain about that.

[jersey cubs fan]

If we ended up acquiring Jose Guillen I'm pretty sure I'd become a White Sox fan.

 

How is Guillen that much different than Burrell?

 

Pat Burrell has been a damn good hitter for most of his career with a couple bad seasons, Guillen has been a horrible hitter most of his career witha couple good seasons.

 

And what either of them are any more is a platoon power outfielder who are aging quickly. Burrell has a better hitting pedigree, but Guillen is not a comically bad defender. In a perfect world I prefer Burrell, but if it means the difference in adding someone like Cruz as well as Guillen, I take that over Burrell every time.

 

Guillen is a little older and apparently aging faster, and not a good defender either. He's coming off 3 of 4 really weak seasons, whereas Burrell has been a beast in 3 of 4 seasons. Aside from a bad 2009, there really isn't much of a comparison.

[Sever82]

Milton Bradley Rumors: Monday

By Tim Dierkes [December 7 at 11:46am CST]

 

11:46am: ESPN Chicago's Bruce Levine says the Cubs and Royals met last night to discuss Bradley-Gil Meche scenarios. The money matches up pretty well here, as both players are signed through 2011. And don't forget the Cubs tried to sign Meche as part of the 2006-07 offseason spending spree.

 

from mlbtraderumors.com

 

Definitely couldn't complain about that.

 

The royals are going to ask for more than just bradley, they'll probably ask for a pitcher or two. How would you guys feel if they asked for Marshall on top of bradley.

[MADD_DOG_31]

Milton Bradley Rumors: Monday

By Tim Dierkes [December 7 at 11:46am CST]

 

11:46am: ESPN Chicago's Bruce Levine says the Cubs and Royals met last night to discuss Bradley-Gil Meche scenarios. The money matches up pretty well here, as both players are signed through 2011. And don't forget the Cubs tried to sign Meche as part of the 2006-07 offseason spending spree.

 

from mlbtraderumors.com

 

I highly doubt they'd do Bradley for Meche straight up but I'd sure have no problem throwing in Marshall or similar