Re: Week 7: Bears at Bengals (4:15 ET on Fox)

[jersey cubs fan]

Glad to see you come to my side Jersey, Ive been saying for a few years now that Lovie Smith is in over his head as a head coach in the NFL.

 

I'm not coming to your side. I have not been a Lovie supporter. He's a bad gameday coach.

[Soul]

Yeah, and what's the deal with sleepwalking in the 1st half this year? Every game this team comes out looking like it just woke up after a nap. It was only a matter of time before someone gave them such an early beating that they couldn't recover.

 

Whatever they're doing for game prep, it isn't working.

[rocket]

maybe the bears are a good team, they just happened to run into the best team in the nfl

[gflore34]

maybe the bears are a good team, they just happened to run into the best team in the nfl

 

I don't know about that, it's hard not to look good when a defense chooses to not cover anyone nor does it make adjustments to take away the running game. It was 7 Bengal run blockers vs 6 Bears run defenders most if not all of the first half.

Edited October 26, 2009 by gflore34

[Guest]

4. How has this staff done anything to warrant keeping it in place as is?

 

I think today's loss was just a bump in the road. They will be a .500 team at the end of the year and they are right there now. Lovie and his staff have had one of the best records since he started as head coach. And they have had far worse talent than the other teams around them. Is Lovie a great coach? No. But he has had one of the best records with just barely above average talent. I would like to see what he can do with good talent.

 

This is absolutely false. The Bears had amazing defensive talent taylor-made for his beloved cover-2 from 2005 to about 2007 and he turned that into a choke job against Steve Smith, a Super Bowl run and a 7-9 season. They were easily the most talented defensive team in those years.

[Banedon]

maybe the bears are a good team, they just happened to run into the best team in the nfl

 

The Bengals are good, but they aren't as good as they looked yesterday. A game like that doesn't happen without the other team bending over.

[jersey cubs fan]

4. How has this staff done anything to warrant keeping it in place as is?

 

I think today's loss was just a bump in the road. They will be a .500 team at the end of the year and they are right there now. Lovie and his staff have had one of the best records since he started as head coach. And they have had far worse talent than the other teams around them. Is Lovie a great coach? No. But he has had one of the best records with just barely above average talent. I would like to see what he can do with good talent.

 

This is absolutely false. The Bears had amazing defensive talent taylor-made for his beloved cover-2 from 2005 to about 2007 and he turned that into a choke job against Steve Smith, a Super Bowl run and a 7-9 season. They were easily the most talented defensive team in those years.

 

The fallacy of a lack of talent on the Bears confuses me. This team was loaded during that run. They have been without a pro bowl QB, but they have had loads of talent available to them, and they have a pro bowl caliber QB now. They've had multiple talented RBs who have either gone on to have better success post-Bears (Jones/Benson) or fallen apart in year 2. They've had talented receivers who left and did just as good or better elsewhere (Muhsin was more productive the year before and year after his Bears tenure). Aside from QB, the one place they've lacked a lot of talent is on the offensive line, but they have spent a lot of money there.

[rocket]

maybe the bears are a good team, they just happened to run into the best team in the nfl

 

The Bengals are good, but they aren't as good as they looked yesterday. A game like that doesn't happen without the other team bending over.

 

i know. but i really do think the bears are good. i'm just amazed that the bengals beat them so easily while a few weeks ago they should have lost to the browns.

[Derwood]

thoughts on Gary Kubiak as potential OC?

[jersey cubs fan]

maybe the bears are a good team, they just happened to run into the best team in the nfl

 

The Bengals are good, but they aren't as good as they looked yesterday. A game like that doesn't happen without the other team bending over.

 

i know. but i really do think the bears are good. i'm just amazed that the bengals beat them so easily while a few weeks ago they should have lost to the browns.

 

That's the NFL, the talent level is relatively even, and it's a matter of matchups in any given game.

[jersey cubs fan]

thoughts on Gary Kubiak as potential OC?

 

isn't he a current head coach?

[Keener98]

thoughts on Gary Kubiak as potential OC?

 

isn't he a current head coach?

 

Yea in Houston.

[Derwood]

thoughts on Gary Kubiak as potential OC?

 

isn't he a current head coach?

 

Yea in Houston.

 

but in the final year of his contract, I believe? dunno, I've heard a few people talk about him

[jersey cubs fan]

thoughts on Gary Kubiak as potential OC?

 

isn't he a current head coach?

 

Yea in Houston.

 

but in the final year of his contract, I believe? dunno, I've heard a few people talk about him

 

I wanted him last time they had a coaching search. If he became available as an OC I'd jump at the chance. Not sure if that's likely or not. But head coaches going back to coordinator to rehabilitate their image seems to be a popular trend.

[Keener98]

thoughts on Gary Kubiak as potential OC?

 

isn't he a current head coach?

 

Yea in Houston.

 

but in the final year of his contract, I believe? dunno, I've heard a few people talk about him

 

I wanted him last time they had a coaching search. If he became available as an OC I'd jump at the chance. Not sure if that's likely or not. But head coaches going back to coordinator to rehabilitate their image seems to be a popular trend.

 

I would imagine with the way that Houston offense is starting to perform, there is a very very small chance Kubiak isnt back as Head Coach.

[Flames24Rulz]

Why would Kubiak leave Houston? He's not going to be canned unless they totally choke the next couple of months.

 

They have one of the best offenses in the league.

[dew1679666265]

Why would Kubiak leave Houston? He's not going to be canned unless they totally choke the next couple of months.

 

They have one of the best offenses in the league.

 

There was talk at the start of the season that he'd be on the hot seat if the overall record wasn't better than right around .500.

[Productive Outs]

just be glad that the bengals didn't have odom.

 

ravens, steelers, bears... i'm already happy with this season. things could get ugly after the bye, though. the ravens will be out for blood.

[SpongeWorthy]

It would be insanity not to at least consider a new head coach if this turns out to be another middling season with Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren, and Gruden available. You don't have the picks to make big changes quickly so you've got to be open to a new coaching staff.

[Banedon]

just be glad that the bengals didn't have odom.

 

ravens, steelers, bears... i'm already happy with this season. things could get ugly after the bye, though. the ravens will be out for blood.

 

Because it'd have been 45-0 instead of 45-10 or whatever? Who cares? A stomping is a stomping.

[Soul]

It would be insanity not to at least consider a new head coach if this turns out to be another middling season with Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren, and Gruden available. You don't have the picks to make big changes quickly so you've got to be open to a new coaching staff.

 

It will be 3 seasons with no playoffs, if it plays out. Personally, I think that's enough to say goodbye to Lovie. I don't hate him or anything, but losing is losing.

 

The problem I see is the fact that the Bears would have to eat money on Lovie's contract.

[UMFan83]

lol, I just realized my 2 football teams (Michigan and the Bears) lost by a combined score of 80-20 this week.

[Flames24Rulz]

Why would Kubiak leave Houston? He's not going to be canned unless they totally choke the next couple of months.

 

They have one of the best offenses in the league.

 

There was talk at the start of the season that he'd be on the hot seat if the overall record wasn't better than right around .500.

 

That's pretty ridiculous then. They're the Houston Texans and they play in the same division as the Colts. I don't think they've had a winning year in their franchise (they've had a couple of .500 years) but I think they should finally get it this year.

[UMFan83]

BTW, I wanted to make this "Yes I'm bitter, but this is true" observation about the Bengals fans. Their fans are awful. I swear in those few seconds the game allegedly was still up for grabs, their fans were quiet and didn't know when to cheer. When the Bengals got the ball, their fans were cheering pre-snap like their team was on defense. And then when their team was on defense, the cheering before every play was minuscule compared to what I am used to at Soldier Field. If I would put Soldier Field's pre-snap cheers for the defense at a 10, the Bengals fans were only at a 4.

 

Also, before the game got out of hand (5 minutes in), I heard several unmistakable "Lets go Bears" chants reverberate through Paul Brown Stadium. In fact, right after the national anthem the 15-20k Bears fans in the audience started one such chant, and the 45k Bengals fans couldn't drown it out! Some of them tried but they couldn't.

 

I don't have a lot of respect for the city of Cincinnati in general (the city is ok at best, their people are weird and don't know whether to be a northerner or a hick), but the experience at the game made me lose some of what I had. I expect their fans to get on the Bears fans invading their stadium, especially because they completely embarrassed the opponents, so that didn't bother me too much..such is life on the road in the NFL, but the rest bothered me.

[Soul]

Oh if they don't know whether to be a northerner or a hick to hell with them