College Football - Week of Oct. 17th

[hotshot13422]

I'm amazed that texas is only -3

 

On the Heisman thing, stats really don't matter this year. Landry Jones, as well as many other players, has better stats than Mccoy and Tebow but this is mccoy's year to win the award. As much as Mccoy has been trying to give away the award by being terrible, it honestly doesn't matter. If tebow wins out it might be a competition though.

 

McCoy being terrible is a huge overstatement.

 

well being 22nd in pass efficiency, 25th in yards, tied for 27th in TDs, being 25th in interceptions thrown, all while throwing it the sixth most times against absolutely horrible defenses is pretty bad. I don't know how you can spin that into a good thing?

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating

 

you've played teams that give up 31.4, 25.8, 21.3, 34.8, and 30 points per game. You've played the easiest schedule in terms of weak defenses out of any of the relevant teams.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=defense&cat2=Total&sort=1137&conference=I-A_all&year=2009

 

Oklahoma is the third best defense in the country only giving up 8 points a game, so this will be your first true game.

[snoodmonger]

I'm amazed that texas is only -3

 

On the Heisman thing, stats really don't matter this year. Landry Jones, as well as many other players, has better stats than Mccoy and Tebow but this is mccoy's year to win the award. As much as Mccoy has been trying to give away the award by being terrible, it honestly doesn't matter. If tebow wins out it might be a competition though.

 

McCoy being terrible is a huge overstatement.

 

well being 22nd in pass efficiency, 25th in yards, tied for 27th in TDs, being 25th in interceptions thrown, all while throwing it the sixth most times against absolutely horrible defenses is pretty bad. I don't know how you can spin that into a good thing?

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating

 

you've played teams that give up 31.4, 25.8, 21.3, 34.8, and 30 points per game. You've played the easiest schedule in terms of weak defenses out of any of the relevant teams.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=defense&cat2=Total&sort=1137&conference=I-A_all&year=2009

 

Oklahoma is the third best defense in the country only giving up 8 points a game, so this will be your first true game.

 

I just hope Reesing continues to play well enough to garner an invite. Probably a longshot, but it would be cool.

[imb]

actually, texas and OU are a lot a like. We have good running backs, but can't run the ball cause our line sucks. Texas has a decent line, but can't run the ball because their running backs suck.

 

the difference is that on defense, we are terrible in the middle of the field. Like, as bad as it's been during Stoops' tenure. McCoy and Shipley will pick that apart all day.

[hotshot13422]

I'm amazed that texas is only -3

 

On the Heisman thing, stats really don't matter this year. Landry Jones, as well as many other players, has better stats than Mccoy and Tebow but this is mccoy's year to win the award. As much as Mccoy has been trying to give away the award by being terrible, it honestly doesn't matter. If tebow wins out it might be a competition though.

 

McCoy being terrible is a huge overstatement.

 

well being 22nd in pass efficiency, 25th in yards, tied for 27th in TDs, being 25th in interceptions thrown, all while throwing it the sixth most times against absolutely horrible defenses is pretty bad. I don't know how you can spin that into a good thing?

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating

 

you've played teams that give up 31.4, 25.8, 21.3, 34.8, and 30 points per game. You've played the easiest schedule in terms of weak defenses out of any of the relevant teams.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=defense&cat2=Total&sort=1137&conference=I-A_all&year=2009

 

Oklahoma is the third best defense in the country only giving up 8 points a game, so this will be your first true game.

 

I just hope Reesing continues to play well enough to garner an invite. Probably a longshot, but it would be cool.

 

I'm not going going to say that i'm more afraid of playing kansas than texas, because it's kansas... But going to play both kansas and nebraska at their places this year is dangerous. Those should both be close games unless kansas acts like they're kansas again and nebraska doesn't think this is the 90's

[hotshot13422]

actually, texas and OU are a lot a like. We have good running backs, but can't run the ball cause our line sucks. Texas has a decent line, but can't run the ball because their running backs suck.

 

the difference is that on defense, we are terrible in the middle of the field. Like, as bad as it's been during Stoops' tenure. McCoy and Shipley will pick that apart all day.

 

You might want to specify that we can't run the ball in the red zone. We can run the ball the rest of the time when opponent's D play the pass. Both our running backs average over 5 ypc.

[TruffleShuffle]

a lot of the reason those teams are giving up so many points per game is because they've only played like 5 games and one of those was giving up 40 or 60 points to texas.

 

and really, aside from throwing 6 picks, mccoy has been fine. his completion % is still high and his TDs are down a bit, but they're scoring a lot of rushing TDs and winning pretty easily, so it doesn't matter much. obviously this is their first real test (though texas tech is probably better than people are giving them credit for).

[shnsajax]

You answered the question yourself, the 6th most attempts. They have no true RB, and have to the throw the ball a lot. Still with teams playing the pass most every down McCoy has the highest completion % in the nation. 6 interceptions is not really that big of a deal in 5 games, and your use of stats at this point of the season don't mean that much based on the competition.

[snoodmonger]

I'm amazed that texas is only -3

 

On the Heisman thing, stats really don't matter this year. Landry Jones, as well as many other players, has better stats than Mccoy and Tebow but this is mccoy's year to win the award. As much as Mccoy has been trying to give away the award by being terrible, it honestly doesn't matter. If tebow wins out it might be a competition though.

 

McCoy being terrible is a huge overstatement.

 

well being 22nd in pass efficiency, 25th in yards, tied for 27th in TDs, being 25th in interceptions thrown, all while throwing it the sixth most times against absolutely horrible defenses is pretty bad. I don't know how you can spin that into a good thing?

 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating

 

you've played teams that give up 31.4, 25.8, 21.3, 34.8, and 30 points per game. You've played the easiest schedule in terms of weak defenses out of any of the relevant teams.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/stats/byteam?cat1=defense&cat2=Total&sort=1137&conference=I-A_all&year=2009

 

Oklahoma is the third best defense in the country only giving up 8 points a game, so this will be your first true game.

 

I just hope Reesing continues to play well enough to garner an invite. Probably a longshot, but it would be cool.

 

I'm not going going to say that i'm more afraid of playing kansas than texas, because it's kansas... But going to play both kansas and nebraska at their places this year is dangerous. Those should both be close games unless kansas acts like they're kansas again and nebraska doesn't think this is the 90's

 

I said somewhere else, this year is probably our best chance at beating OU. I don't think it'll happen, but we've got a shot, especially if Broyles is still out. Oddly, I'll feel much better about our chances if you beat UT. I can't imagine you guys losing 2 in a row to fall below .500.

[OleMissCub]

LOL, how the mighty have fallen. Apparently Snead won't be the starting QB for Ole Miss' game this weekend against UAB.

[hotshot13422]

LOL, how the mighty have fallen. Apparently Snead won't be the starting QB for Ole Miss' game this weekend against UAB.

 

Looks like you guy will have snead for one more year (I don't know if that is good or bad) lol

[shnsajax]

LOL, how the mighty have fallen. Apparently Snead won't be the starting QB for Ole Miss' game this weekend against UAB.

 

Looks like you guy will have snead for one more year (I don't know if that is good or bad) lol

 

Really I thought this was his last year. 1 year at Texas, 1 year lost due to transfer, 2 years at Ole Miss.

[OleMissCub]

LOL, how the mighty have fallen. Apparently Snead won't be the starting QB for Ole Miss' game this weekend against UAB.

 

Looks like you guy will have snead for one more year (I don't know if that is good or bad) lol

 

It's really astonishing how he has just completely lost his mind. It's almost like he has Steve Blass syndrome.

 

His last 3 games last year:

 

LSU: 16-24, 274 YDS, 3 TD, 0 INT

MSU: 14-19, 213 YDS, 4 TD, 1 INT

Texas Tech: 18-29, 292, 3 TD, 1 INT

 

So far this year in SEC:

 

SC: 7-21, 107 YDS, 1 TD

VANDY: 19-34, 237 YDS, 3 TD, 3 INT

BAMA: 11-34, 140 YDS, 0 TD, 4 INT

[shnsajax]

LOL, how the mighty have fallen. Apparently Snead won't be the starting QB for Ole Miss' game this weekend against UAB.

 

Looks like you guy will have snead for one more year (I don't know if that is good or bad) lol

 

It's really astonishing how he has just completely lost his mind. It's almost like he has Steve Blass syndrome.

 

His last 3 games last year:

 

LSU: 16-24, 274 YDS, 3 TD, 0 INT

MSU: 14-19, 213 YDS, 4 TD, 1 INT

Texas Tech: 18-29, 292, 3 TD, 1 INT

 

So far this year in SEC:

 

SC: 7-21, 107 YDS, 1 TD

VANDY: 19-34, 237 YDS, 3 TD, 3 INT

BAMA: 11-34, 140 YDS, 0 TD, 4 INT

 

He's got everything you want outside of throwing like David Carr.

[cubsfan5150]

LOL, how the mighty have fallen. Apparently Snead won't be the starting QB for Ole Miss' game this weekend against UAB.

 

I'm so very glad that you guys took the QB killer off of our hands. You know he had Mallett lining up at TE at a HS camp.

[Grit amp Heart]

a lot of the reason those teams are giving up so many points per game is because they've only played like 5 games and one of those was giving up 40 or 60 points to texas.

 

and really, aside from throwing 6 picks, mccoy has been fine. his completion % is still high and his TDs are down a bit, but they're scoring a lot of rushing TDs and winning pretty easily, so it doesn't matter much. obviously this is their first real test (though texas tech is probably better than people are giving them credit for).

 

Here's the Colt McCoy passing game plan.

 

1st and 10: WR screen where the pass is behind the LOS to Shipley, Chiles or Kirkendoll.

2nd and 5-10: Quick slant under five yards to either Shipley or Buckner.

2nd and short: WR screen where the pass is behind the LOS to Shipley.

3rd and long: Throw the ball up in the air and pray to god Shipley makes an unbelievable one handed catch.

3rd and short: WR screen where the pass is behind the LOS to Shipley.

 

It's pretty much that, with a wrinkle thrown in here and there. I'd be willing to bet that over half of McCoys completions are caught within five yards of the LOS and a good third are behind the LOS. He had 32 completions against Colorado and only 268 yards.

[Guest]

LOL, how the mighty have fallen. Apparently Snead won't be the starting QB for Ole Miss' game this weekend against UAB.

 

Looks like you guy will have snead for one more year (I don't know if that is good or bad) lol

 

Really I thought this was his last year. 1 year at Texas, 1 year lost due to transfer, 2 years at Ole Miss.

 

You only lose a year when transferring if you have already used your redshirt year. Otherwise you redshirt the year you transfer.

 

Snead played for Texas in 2006, transferred/redshirted in 2007, played as a sophomore in 2008 and is playing as a junior in 2009.

[SouthSideRyan]

early lines for games of note:

texas -3 vs oklahoma

iowa -1 @ wisconsin

minnesota @ penn state -16.5 (nobody cares except me, probably)

south carolina @ alabama -17

usc -11 @ notre dame

california -3 @ ucla

aTm -5 @ kansas st (thought line would be bigger, k-state is awful)

va tech -3 @ ga tech (big game for the ACC coastal, which actually has three good teams - va tech, miami, ga tech. ACC atlantic, on the other hand, is downright bad)

illinois -3 @ indiana (big ten toilet bowl)

kansas -10 @ colorado

navy -7 @ smu... not really an important game, but it's a team that doesn't pass versus a june jones team, which is fun.

 

I really like Cal, A&M, and KU.

[dew1679666265]

Colt McCoy hasn't been all that great this season. He's not even in the top 20 of QBs in efficiency this year. He's behind the likes of VT's Tyrod Taylor, FSU's Christian Ponder, and OU's Landry Jones, of course. Jimmy Clausen has 100 more yards passing, two more TDs and four fewer interceptions despite 40 fewer attempts.

 

Maybe, just maybe a non QB can win the award this year?

 

Eric Berry. :beg:

[Derwood]

a lot of the reason those teams are giving up so many points per game is because they've only played like 5 games and one of those was giving up 40 or 60 points to texas.

 

and really, aside from throwing 6 picks, mccoy has been fine. his completion % is still high and his TDs are down a bit, but they're scoring a lot of rushing TDs and winning pretty easily, so it doesn't matter much. obviously this is their first real test (though texas tech is probably better than people are giving them credit for).

 

Here's the Colt McCoy passing game plan.

 

1st and 10: WR screen where the pass is behind the LOS to Shipley, Chiles or Kirkendoll.

2nd and 5-10: Quick slant under five yards to either Shipley or Buckner.

2nd and short: WR screen where the pass is behind the LOS to Shipley.

3rd and long: Throw the ball up in the air and pray to god Shipley makes an unbelievable one handed catch.

3rd and short: WR screen where the pass is behind the LOS to Shipley.

 

It's pretty much that, with a wrinkle thrown in here and there. I'd be willing to bet that over half of McCoys completions are caught within five yards of the LOS and a good third are behind the LOS. He had 32 completions against Colorado and only 268 yards.

 

This may be true, but it feels like most of Tebow's passing yardage is from YAC as well

[inari]

I'm pretty nervous about matching up with Wisconsin. I think the Hawks will pull it out, but it's going to be their toughest game of the year to this point besides Penn State.

[Andy]

Colt McCoy hasn't been all that great this season. He's not even in the top 20 of QBs in efficiency this year. He's behind the likes of VT's Tyrod Taylor, FSU's Christian Ponder, and OU's Landry Jones, of course. Jimmy Clausen has 100 more yards passing, two more TDs and four fewer interceptions despite 40 fewer attempts.

 

Maybe, just maybe a non QB can win the award this year?

 

Eric Berry. :beg:

Not happening. Tebow, Jimmy and McCoy are pretty much locked in as the top 3 right now in some order.

[dew1679666265]

Colt McCoy hasn't been all that great this season. He's not even in the top 20 of QBs in efficiency this year. He's behind the likes of VT's Tyrod Taylor, FSU's Christian Ponder, and OU's Landry Jones, of course. Jimmy Clausen has 100 more yards passing, two more TDs and four fewer interceptions despite 40 fewer attempts.

 

Maybe, just maybe a non QB can win the award this year?

 

Eric Berry. :beg:

Not happening. Tebow, Jimmy and McCoy are pretty much locked in as the top 3 right now in some order.

 

I'm sure it won't. It's awful that he's not even really being considered, though. If Charles Woodson could win it over Peyton, Berry ought to have a chance.

[shnsajax]

Colt McCoy hasn't been all that great this season. He's not even in the top 20 of QBs in efficiency this year. He's behind the likes of VT's Tyrod Taylor, FSU's Christian Ponder, and OU's Landry Jones, of course. Jimmy Clausen has 100 more yards passing, two more TDs and four fewer interceptions despite 40 fewer attempts.

 

Maybe, just maybe a non QB can win the award this year?

 

Eric Berry. :beg:

Not happening. Tebow, Jimmy and McCoy are pretty much locked in as the top 3 right now in some order.

 

Clausen and McCoy could fall back pretty far if they don't play well this weekend. Not exactly locks for anything right now.

 

If Berry was on a Top 10 team he would have a shot. If they finish 7-5 its going to be way to tough for a defensive player to make it. It would be nice if he was invited to the Heisman awards though as he deserves the recognition.

[hotshot13422]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=45534223

 

Broyles might play. If he plays, i think we win. Without him, it's going to be a close game.

[fiver]

thankfully, I was offshore (tagged and released a sailfish and kept some mahi, tuna, and grouper) and wasn't able to witness Auburn getting spanked by the Hogs...Kentucky can definitely beat Auburn as well...think it will be close.

 

http://pensacolafishingforum.com/fishingforum/Uploads/Images/77417e75-914a-4e64-af07-f7de.jpg

 

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