How about claiming Cano?

[Backtobanks]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

[erik316wttn]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

I'd love for Cano to be here, but I don't think the Yanks will trade him.

 

But I agree, though. Put in the claim and see what happens.

Edited August 9, 2009 by erik316wttn

[sporrer17]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

 

If he cleared waivers, we can't "claim" him, all we could do is try to trade for him.

[nolanwood]

I'd definitely take Cano, but not sure what would motivate the Yankees to trade for him...

[Cubswin11]

Got a link? I would love to have Cano. PLUS HE'S LEFTHANDED :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

[abuck1220]

why is this a thread?

[Schwarber Fan]

Got a link? I would love to have Cano. PLUS HE'S LEFTHANDED :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

 

Alex Rios's name shows up on the waiver wires? Well, so does that of Robinson Cano of the Yankees.

 

http://www.thestar.com/sports/football/article/678458

[imb]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

I'd love for Cano to be here, but I don't think the Yanks will trade him.

 

But I agree, though. Put in the claim and see what happens.

 

you cant "claim" players that have passed through waivers

 

here's a link on the whole process

[Backtobanks]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

I'd love for Cano to be here, but I don't think the Yanks will trade him.

 

But I agree, though. Put in the claim and see what happens.

 

you cant "claim" players that have passed through waivers

 

here's a link on the whole process

 

You can put in a claim on him which gives the Yankees the option of withdrawing him, trying to arrange a trade with the claiming team, or just letting him go to the claiming team. I don't see any harm in making a claim to see what happens after that. I'm sure the Yankees would withdraw him or ask an outrageous package for him, but it wouldn't hurt (or cost anything) to try.

[imb]

you cant claim someone who has already passed through waivers, that's the whole point of the system

[UK1679666180]

It'd be a waste of a phone call. They're not to trade him as he's one of the best 2B in the League, on the best team in the League, on the team with the highest payroll ever.

 

Plus, the Cubs (beyond Vitters) wouldn't have enough to get him and the Yankees have only Jerry Hairston as their utility player and beyond his decent numbers in Cincy doesn't merit being a starter at 2B espec. replacing Cano. All this to simply build up their farm which doesn't mean much when you buy the best FAs to stock up.

[NCCubFan]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

I'd love for Cano to be here, but I don't think the Yanks will trade him.

 

But I agree, though. Put in the claim and see what happens.

 

you cant "claim" players that have passed through waivers

 

here's a link on the whole process

 

You can put in a claim on him which gives the Yankees the option of withdrawing him, trying to arrange a trade with the claiming team, or just letting him go to the claiming team. I don't see any harm in making a claim to see what happens after that. I'm sure the Yankees would withdraw him or ask an outrageous package for him, but it wouldn't hurt (or cost anything) to try.

The point people are making is that they can't claim him NOW (which is what this thread was suggesting) since he's already cleared waivers. That window has closed. They could have claimed him, but they didn't (nor did any other team).

[Magnetic Curses]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

I'd love for Cano to be here, but I don't think the Yanks will trade him.

 

But I agree, though. Put in the claim and see what happens.

 

you cant "claim" players that have passed through waivers

 

here's a link on the whole process

 

You can put in a claim on him which gives the Yankees the option of withdrawing him, trying to arrange a trade with the claiming team, or just letting him go to the claiming team. I don't see any harm in making a claim to see what happens after that. I'm sure the Yankees would withdraw him or ask an outrageous package for him, but it wouldn't hurt (or cost anything) to try.

 

it's not that hard to understand. if a player has cleared waivers, it means that every team had a chance to claim him and did not.

[jam1975]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

I'd love for Cano to be here, but I don't think the Yanks will trade him.

 

But I agree, though. Put in the claim and see what happens.

 

you cant "claim" players that have passed through waivers

 

here's a link on the whole process

 

You can put in a claim on him which gives the Yankees the option of withdrawing him, trying to arrange a trade with the claiming team, or just letting him go to the claiming team. I don't see any harm in making a claim to see what happens after that. I'm sure the Yankees would withdraw him or ask an outrageous package for him, but it wouldn't hurt (or cost anything) to try.

 

it's not that hard to understand. if a player has cleared waivers, it means that every team had a chance to claim him and did not.

 

It's difficult for some to understand when there's not a third team involved...

[Cubs Fan In NY]

I don't understand though, why would they put him on waivers to begin with? If they wouldn't trade him anyway, then what's the point?

[Roast]

I don't understand though, why would they put him on waivers to begin with? If they wouldn't trade him anyway, then what's the point?

Lots of teams do this every year with lots and lots of players, partially just to gauge what kind of interest there is around the league in them. There may be more to it than that, and if so someone who knows more about the process can add on to this. But I know this happens quite a bit around baseball.

[Flames24Rulz]

I don't understand though, why would they put him on waivers to begin with? If they wouldn't trade him anyway, then what's the point?

Lots of teams do this every year with lots and lots of players, partially just to gauge what kind of interest there is around the league in them. There may be more to it than that, and if so someone who knows more about the process can add on to this. But I know this happens quite a bit around baseball.

 

Exactly. I've heard that a gigantic amount of players get placed on waivers, for the reasons that you just used. Just because a team puts a player on waivers doesn't mean that they want to trade or get rid of that player. Like Roast said, they're just trying to see the interest that other teams in the league have in that specific player.

[NCCubFan]

I don't understand though, why would they put him on waivers to begin with? If they wouldn't trade him anyway, then what's the point?

Lots of teams do this every year with lots and lots of players, partially just to gauge what kind of interest there is around the league in them. There may be more to it than that, and if so someone who knows more about the process can add on to this. But I know this happens quite a bit around baseball.

 

Exactly. I've heard that a gigantic amount of players get placed on waivers, for the reasons that you just used. Just because a team puts a player on waivers doesn't mean that they want to trade or get rid of that player. Like Roast said, they're just trying to see the interest that other teams in the league have in that specific player.

Another reason teams sometimes do it is to mask their true intentions. Maybe a team does want to trade a player, but to keep other teams guessing they'll place other players on waivers at the same time so it isn't obvious which player they want to trade.

[Backtobanks]

I'm sure the Yankees won't let him go, but he has cleared waivers. Assuming something could be worked out he would be owed about $2 million for this year, $9 million next year, $10 million in 2011, and $14 million ($2 million buyout) in 2012. After this year the Cubs will probably cut $26 million in payroll (Gregg, Harden, Johnson, Grabow, Heilman, Cotts, Vizcaino, Gaudin, Marquis, Gathright) and add $11 million in raises (Bradley, Fukudome, Dempster, Soriano) plus raises/arbitration to Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Guzman, and Fontenot. I would assume they would try to sign Theriot, Soto, Marmol, Marshall, and Guzman to longer contracts, but they are all under the team's control. After 2010 Lee, Lilly, and Miles come off the books (unless they're re-signed) for a total of about $28 million. As I stated earlier, it won't happen, but it doesn't cost anything to put in the claim for a 26 yr.old 2B with a career line of .304/.337/.473/.810 that averages 19 HRs and 87 RBI.

 

I'd love for Cano to be here, but I don't think the Yanks will trade him.

 

But I agree, though. Put in the claim and see what happens.

 

you cant "claim" players that have passed through waivers

 

here's a link on the whole process

 

You can put in a claim on him which gives the Yankees the option of withdrawing him, trying to arrange a trade with the claiming team, or just letting him go to the claiming team. I don't see any harm in making a claim to see what happens after that. I'm sure the Yankees would withdraw him or ask an outrageous package for him, but it wouldn't hurt (or cost anything) to try.

The point people are making is that they can't claim him NOW (which is what this thread was suggesting) since he's already cleared waivers. That window has closed. They could have claimed him, but they didn't (nor did any other team).

 

Okay, so it's a matter of semantics. Instead of "claiming" him off waivers from the Yankees, Hendry has to call the Yankees and state that he's interested in "trading" for a player that cleared waivers which is what would have happened if the Cubs "claimed" him in the first place. In any case, I'm sure the Yankees aren't going to trade him, but it doesn't hurt or cost anything to make the call.

[Banedon]

Okay, so it's a matter of semantics. Instead of "claiming" him off waivers from the Yankees, Hendry has to call the Yankees and state that he's interested in "trading" for a player that cleared waivers which is what would have happened if the Cubs "claimed" him in the first place. In any case, I'm sure the Yankees aren't going to trade him, but it doesn't hurt or cost anything to make the call.

 

Still not quite right...there's no guarantee that is how it would've gone down if the Cubs had put in a claim. If Hendry had put in a claim, the Yankees would have had 3 options:

 

1) Pull Cano back.

2) Allow the Cubs to have him...taking on his entire salary.

3) Work out a trade.

 

At this point, every team declined to put in a claim, thus he has "passed through waivers". That means at this point, the Yankees can keep him, or trade him, but option 2 is no longer available.

 

You might view it as semantics, but it's actually quite different.

[shnsajax]

IBL!

[abuck1220]

hi yankees, this is jim hendry calling about your 26 year old, .850 ops-ing 2b. i was wondering if we could just have him. yeah, that's right...will you just give him to us? i know you're in the middle of a pennant chase right now, but i thought maybe you'd be interesting in just handing us one of your most productive position players. no? ok, well just something my buddies at nsbb were floating around. i guess it does sound pretty stupid when you say it out loud. bye.

[hawkeyecub]

In any case, I'm sure the Yankees aren't going to trade him, but it doesn't hurt or cost anything to make the call.

 

Well it also wouldn't hurt or cost anything for you to write Jessica Alba and ask her to go out with you. So why not go for it?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

In any case, I'm sure the Yankees aren't going to trade him, but it doesn't hurt or cost anything to make the call.

 

Well it also wouldn't hurt or cost anything for you to write Jessica Alba and ask her to go out with you. So why not go for it?

 

You could meet her at a dance and be like all "Wanna dance?" as a joke and then she'd be like "Sure."

[Backtobanks]

Okay, so it's a matter of semantics. Instead of "claiming" him off waivers from the Yankees, Hendry has to call the Yankees and state that he's interested in "trading" for a player that cleared waivers which is what would have happened if the Cubs "claimed" him in the first place. In any case, I'm sure the Yankees aren't going to trade him, but it doesn't hurt or cost anything to make the call.

 

Still not quite right...there's no guarantee that is how it would've gone down if the Cubs had put in a claim. If Hendry had put in a claim, the Yankees would have had 3 options:

 

1) Pull Cano back.

2) Allow the Cubs to have him...taking on his entire salary.

3) Work out a trade.

 

At this point, every team declined to put in a claim, thus he has "passed through waivers". That means at this point, the Yankees can keep him, or trade him, but option 2 is no longer available.

 

You might view it as semantics, but it's actually quite different.

 

That is my point, since the Yankees weren't going to "give" him to us just to dump his salary, the only options were pull him back or arrange a trade. All of my posts stated that it wasn't likely, but it would be worthwhile to explore the slight possibility of a trade either now or when he was going through waivers. If the Yankees have (or had) any notion of trading him, that option is still there.