Cub prospects in the news

[wekim81]

Instructs, in Arizona.

those have been over for a long time. Wonder why this is just now news?

[Cubswin11]

Instructs, in Arizona.

those have been over for a long time. Wonder why this is just now news?

Because our beat writers suck and probably don't even know what instructs are or to report on an important guy like Vizcaino there when he pitches and it's probably the first time Theo's been interviewed since he threw/specifically asked about him?

[jersey cubs fan]

Instructs, in Arizona.

those have been over for a long time. Wonder why this is just now news?

Because our beat writers suck and probably don't even know what instructs are or to report on an important guy like Vizcaino there when he pitches and it's probably the first time Theo's been interviewed since he threw/specifically asked about him?

 

I don't see how the beat writers "suck" when they don't have access to Theo to ask about these types of things.

 

 

And Vizcaino isn't really important.

[Cubswin11]

So Theo is their only source to get info on guys in instructs? There is nobody else they could try and get to, to get info?

 

Also I consider Vizcaino and important guy (at least prospect). He was once a pretty highly thought of prospect and is coming back from injury. He is at a position of little depth/need for us and could be up and contributing sometime this year. He also is a fix for one of our major problems last year (bullpen).

[jersey cubs fan]

So Theo is their only source to get info on guys in instructs? There is nobody else they could try and get to, to get info?

 

"How somebody looks" in instructs is a worthless topic barely worthy of a blurb at the end of a "state of the organization" offseason update. There's no point in going out searching for worthless quotes for their own story. And there is nothing wrong with waiting until you have access to the actual mouthpiece of the organization.

 

 

 

The "our beat writers suck" interpretation to explain the timing of this note is just ridiculous.

[Lefty]

As much as I'd like to see him succeed as a starter, I think I'd be okay giving him the Chapman treatment where you start him out in the pen at the MLB level, with intentions on moving him to the rotation eventually, but if he shines in the relief role you let him be and flourish, especially given his arm issues. I also think with some of our pitching depth getting better it makes the urgency to have him be a good starter a little less urgent. Especially if we trade Samardzija for some big arms

 

He is never starting a game in the majors (again).

 

I think that'd the obvious route that will happen, but haven't they kept saying they're not ruling it out until they determine what's best for him and the team's plans?

 

I always figured that a fragile arm might gain from pitching on a predetermined schedule rather than relieving. If seven innings is too much of a strain, why not 2 or 3 innings every three days? Every team has the same 5 starters, middle relievers, setup men and closer. I wonder when some team will blow up that model and make a leap forward.

[Guest]

I'd love to see teams bring a piggyback model to the majors for the end of the rotation. It would be ideal for a guy like Arodys (at least, the guy we hope he becomes) to pitch four innings on a schedule every fifth day. Pair him up with a guy like Kazmir and I think it would give great results.

[Cubswin11]

I really like the idea of the piggyback for the 5th starter. I wonder if/when rosters would expand to 26/27 guys more teams would consider it?

[Rex Buckingham]

I'd love to see teams bring a piggyback model to the majors for the end of the rotation. It would be ideal for a guy like Arodys (at least, the guy we hope he becomes) to pitch four innings on a schedule every fifth day. Pair him up with a guy like Kazmir and I think it would give great results.

 

It seems to me like a L/R piggyback would be advantageous against teams that utilize platoons or have guys with big platoon splits

[Guest]

I'd love to see teams bring a piggyback model to the majors for the end of the rotation. It would be ideal for a guy like Arodys (at least, the guy we hope he becomes) to pitch four innings on a schedule every fifth day. Pair him up with a guy like Kazmir and I think it would give great results.

I've been thinking about that for awhile but for the entire pitching corps. It seems like it would work to keep injuries to a minimum and keep guys more fresh. A TOR type could start and close all in the same week. Probably better in theory.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'd love to see teams bring a piggyback model to the majors for the end of the rotation. It would be ideal for a guy like Arodys (at least, the guy we hope he becomes) to pitch four innings on a schedule every fifth day. Pair him up with a guy like Kazmir and I think it would give great results.

I've been thinking about that for awhile but for the entire pitching corps. It seems like it would work to keep injuries to a minimum and keep guys more fresh. A TOR type could start and close all in the same week. Probably better in theory.

 

You don't want to mess with guys who can actually go 6+ successfully every 5th day. I think they should be able to set-up a rotation with 2 or 3 of those guys and then 3-4 piggyback types taking up the other innings.

[rawaction]

I can see why you do that if you have a couple guys like Vizcaino, coming off of arm injuries. Hasn't shown he can handle the workload, but too valuable for 1 inning at a time. But I don't see the purpose of taking guys who can survive perfectly well for 6 or more innings consistently in a role like that. Kazmir is too good for that role. And if you have a bunch of guys like Vizcaino to do that with the 4th and/or 5th spots in the rotation, that's probably not a good thing.

[Guest]

As much as I'd like to see him succeed as a starter, I think I'd be okay giving him the Chapman treatment where you start him out in the pen at the MLB level, with intentions on moving him to the rotation eventually, but if he shines in the relief role you let him be and flourish, especially given his arm issues. I also think with some of our pitching depth getting better it makes the urgency to have him be a good starter a little less urgent. Especially if we trade Samardzija for some big arms

 

He is never starting a game in the majors (again).

 

That remains to be seen. His stuff is too good to say that.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

That remains to be seen. His stuff is too good to say that.

 

He's been a professional pitcher for six seasons, and IIRC he hasn't had a healthy season since the first one (when he threw 44 innings in rookie ball). He's 23 years old, has only thrown 100 innings once, and hasn't thrown in a game in more than two years.

 

Even if he could make it through 50 innings without his arm falling off, I think the ship has sailed on building the arm strength to handle a full season of starting.

[Guest]

He's also got 2 full seasons of service time, so there's not exactly a world of time to spend a year converting him and hoping his performance and health stick in the rotation.

[Rob]

Yeah. He's going to get the Sean Marshall treatment.

[davell]

So Parks was asked in his chat today if Correa would win a prospect smack down with the rest of the minor league SS's.....Said Lindor is the safest bet, with Russell close behind. But Javy has one of the highest ceilings in the minors and if he reaches it, HE'S THE BEST SS IN THE GAME and a perennial All Star. Higher risk, of course, but higher reward.

[CubsWin]

So Parks was asked in his chat today if Correa would win a prospect smack down with the rest of the minor league SS's.....Said Lindor is the safest bet, with Russell close behind. But Javy has one of the highest ceilings in the minors and if he reaches it, HE'S THE BEST SS IN THE GAME and a perennial All Star. Higher risk, of course, but higher reward.

I'd love to see the Cubs stick to their guns with his development plan. I wonder what the specific benchmarks are (outside of the obvious) that he will have to meet before they bring him up? There is going to be a lot of pressure to do so as quickly as possible.

[Cubswin11]

So Parks was asked in his chat today if Correa would win a prospect smack down with the rest of the minor league SS's.....Said Lindor is the safest bet, with Russell close behind. But Javy has one of the highest ceilings in the minors and if he reaches it, HE'S THE BEST SS IN THE GAME and a perennial All Star. Higher risk, of course, but higher reward.

I'd love to see the Cubs stick to their guns with his development plan. I wonder what the specific benchmarks are (outside of the obvious) that he will have to meet before they bring him up? There is going to be a lot of pressure to do so as quickly as possible.

Pretty much from all outside the organization though, which whether you like it or not, the FO has shown they don't give a [expletive] what those forces think/want and aren't going to make decisions based on what they want if those wants don't align with their decision making plans.

[CubsWin]

So Parks was asked in his chat today if Correa would win a prospect smack down with the rest of the minor league SS's.....Said Lindor is the safest bet, with Russell close behind. But Javy has one of the highest ceilings in the minors and if he reaches it, HE'S THE BEST SS IN THE GAME and a perennial All Star. Higher risk, of course, but higher reward.

I'd love to see the Cubs stick to their guns with his development plan. I wonder what the specific benchmarks are (outside of the obvious) that he will have to meet before they bring him up? There is going to be a lot of pressure to do so as quickly as possible.

Pretty much from all outside the organization though, which whether you like it or not, the FO has shown they don't give a [expletive] what those forces think/want and aren't going to make decisions based on what they want if those wants don't align with their decision making plans.

I agree. And we can only hope that its all from outside the organization. Ticket sales and ratings are pretty important right now. Just sayin'...

[SouthSideRyan]

So Parks was asked in his chat today if Correa would win a prospect smack down with the rest of the minor league SS's.....Said Lindor is the safest bet, with Russell close behind. But Javy has one of the highest ceilings in the minors and if he reaches it, HE'S THE BEST SS IN THE GAME and a perennial All Star. Higher risk, of course, but higher reward.

I'd love to see the Cubs stick to their guns with his development plan. I wonder what the specific benchmarks are (outside of the obvious) that he will have to meet before they bring him up? There is going to be a lot of pressure to do so as quickly as possible.

Pretty much from all outside the organization though, which whether you like it or not, the FO has shown they don't give a [expletive] what those forces think/want and aren't going to make decisions based on what they want if those wants don't align with their decision making plans.

I agree. And we can only hope that its all from outside the organization. Ticket sales and ratings are pretty important right now. Just sayin'...

 

Then I sure as [expletive] hope the FO cares about them

[Guest]

Almora fluff piece

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20131218&content_id=66052634&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc&tcid=tw_article_66052634

[imb]

If Baez were to come up a few months into 2014 ... where would he play

[Guest]

If Baez were to come up a few months into 2014 ... where would he play

He'll play where he [expletive] wants to!

 

Most likely 2nd or 3rd.

[Guest]

If Baez were to come up a few months into 2014 ... where would he play

He'll play where he [expletive] wants to!

 

Most likely 2nd or 3rd.

 

 

yeah...i'm guessing whichever of those positions is more of a trainwreck. if equally, then wherever they envision him longer term, I guess.