2009 NCAA recruiting thread

[Derwood]

penn state's dl coach is officially too good for the state of illinois. screw him, i hope he never gets another dc offer, ever.

 

lol, at least you're taking it well.

 

any less of a reaction (from an Illini fan) would be cause for suspicion. frankly, I'm surprised he didn't somehow blame Ed Hightower for this

[RedFlash]

I'm not upset at CLT going to Tennessee (a lot of Bama fans are, I am not), I am upset at the timing of it. CLT was a holdover from CMS staff that Nick Saban elected to keep on staff, along with CKS. Unlike Kevin Steele, CLT had a legitimate coaching destination (LBers coach), but the real defensive coaches for Bama were and still is Nick Saban and Kirby Smart. While losing CLT does hurt in recruiting (not as much as some think), he doesn't hurt as much as a coach, seeing as he was "just" a LBer coach, which is his position with Tennessee. Not to mention he has a lot to be desire as a "game day coach". So he didn't get a promotion as he got a raise. Nick had a chance to match the offer, and Nick didn't think CLT was worth the raise. Who am I to argue with Nick Saban, since he does have an eye for talent, players and coaches?

 

CLT will help Tennessee with recruiting, just not this yr. I know a lot of Tennessee fans are thinking they will now cherry pick talent from Alabama list to come to UTenn, but that's not going to happen. CLT has to walk a tightrope. CLT cannot have made contact with prospects about going to Tennessee if he was still coach at Alabama, cause if he does, you can bank on Nick Saban getting the NCAA involved and get Tennessee slap with a probation/loss of schloarships. So, I suspect CLT won't help Tennessee as much as some may think in regards to recruiting. AJ McCarron/DJ Fluker/Trent Richarson/Nico Johnson/Jonathan Atchison were players recruited by CLT and all reaffirmed their committments to Alabama.

 

And to clarify about CLT role as a recruiter. On Nick Saban's coaching staff, CLT was considered a "Point man" which means he would set a direct line between Alabama and the recruit(s) high shcool. While CLT was great at that, the coach who close the deal on recruits coming to Alabama was and still is Nick Saban. Recruits are coming to Alabama to play for the Crimson Tide and Nick Saban, not Lance Thompson.

 

I know people are sarcastically awaiting my answer to the CLT to Tennesse, but the reality is, I hate losing CLT so close to "Nick Saban Day" or as you mere mortals call it, "National Signing Day", and it hurt going to Tennessee, but it doesn't kill Alabama. Not to mention Alabama was able to hold onto a great coaching prospect in Bo Davis, who was being hounded by LSU, to which Bo basically told Les Miles and LSU to "Pound the street."

 

I know people want to see Bama return to the gutter, and to see me cry, but it isn't going to happen. Alabama will not lose any committed recruit to Tennessee, cause as I said CLT has to walk the tightrope with recruits. Alabama will land a Top 5 class, and after next season, I will become an even bigger dbag the Truff and IMB. That is my goal.

 

And if you didn't already know:

 

ROLL DAMN TIDE.

 

For what it's worth, it's a good hire for Tennessee.

[Magnetic Curses]

penn state's dl coach is officially too good for the state of illinois. screw him, i hope he never gets another dc offer, ever.

 

lol, at least you're taking it well.

 

any less of a reaction (from an Illini fan) would be cause for suspicion. frankly, I'm surprised he didn't somehow blame Ed Hightower for this

 

frankly, i'm surprised that i've never said anything about ed hightower on this board, ever. but i know that truffle has.

[Derwood]

penn state's dl coach is officially too good for the state of illinois. screw him, i hope he never gets another dc offer, ever.

 

lol, at least you're taking it well.

 

any less of a reaction (from an Illini fan) would be cause for suspicion. frankly, I'm surprised he didn't somehow blame Ed Hightower for this

 

frankly, i'm surprised that i've never said anything about ed hightower on this board, ever. but i know that truffle has.

 

Just messing with you. I figured if I simply said "blame the refs" that it would deflect to Truffle anyways.

[SouthSideRyan]

Stuff

 

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[Magnetic Curses]

penn state's dl coach is officially too good for the state of illinois. screw him, i hope he never gets another dc offer, ever.

 

lol, at least you're taking it well.

 

any less of a reaction (from an Illini fan) would be cause for suspicion. frankly, I'm surprised he didn't somehow blame Ed Hightower for this

 

frankly, i'm surprised that i've never said anything about ed hightower on this board, ever. but i know that truffle has.

 

Just messing with you. I figured if I simply said "blame the refs" that it would deflect to Truffle anyways.

 

i hate everything penn state right now.

[Derwood]

I have no idea who CLT or CSK or whoever are so I stopped reading

 

that and I don't care about Alabama or Tennessee football

[TruffleShuffle]

penn state's dl coach is officially too good for the state of illinois. screw him, i hope he never gets another dc offer, ever.

 

lol, at least you're taking it well.

 

any less of a reaction (from an Illini fan) would be cause for suspicion. frankly, I'm surprised he didn't somehow blame Ed Hightower for this

 

frankly, i'm surprised that i've never said anything about ed hightower on this board, ever. but i know that truffle has.

 

yeah, about a bad call he made during a purdue-northwestern game.

[hawkeyecub]

You cannot make this stuff up.

 

You just can't.

[Hosak8]

CLT will help Tennessee with recruiting, just not this yr. I know a lot of Tennessee fans are thinking they will now cherry pick talent from Alabama list to come to UTenn, but that's not going to happen. CLT has to walk a tightrope. CLT cannot have made contact with prospects about going to Tennessee if he was still coach at Alabama, cause if he does, you can bank on Nick Saban getting the NCAA involved and get Tennessee slap with a probation/loss of schloarships. So, I suspect CLT won't help Tennessee as much as some may think in regards to recruiting. AJ McCarron/DJ Fluker/Trent Richarson/Nico Johnson/Jonathan Atchison were players recruited by CLT and all reaffirmed their committments to Alabama.

 

Don't be too sure about this.

 

A.J. McCarron, who recently received a visit from UT coaches that coincided with a visit from Nick Saban and Lance Thompson, has said he will visit Tennessee on Jan. 23. Further, Trent Richardson, who was caught completely off-guard by Thompson's switch, has said he will visit Tennessee on Jan. 30. Richardson received a direct call from Saban on Thursday, and Saban told the prized recruit that he was "stunned" by Thompson's departure.

 

Not saying either ends up at UT, but you're just delusional if you think losing Thompson won't hurt you with his recruits. Personally, I couldn't care less about McCarron, because his film is not good, and he looks like a "project" at best. Richardson, OTOH, would be HUGE get, and a nice coup.

 

And folks, let's not let RedFlash fool you- Saban is NOT happy about this one. This coming directly from a member of Bear Bryant's family who is very much in the know.

[SouthSideRyan]

If Alabama wants to keep McCarron they will. If they let him go, Saban must've decided he wasn't a good fit.

 

ROLLLL TIDE

[Transmogrified Tiger]

My favorite part is the "if there's even a little malfeasance, Saban's gonna make you pay with probation/scholarships". That and "I will become an even bigger dbag. That is my goal."

[RedFlash]

 

Don't be too sure about this.

 

A.J. McCarron, who recently received a visit from UT coaches that coincided with a visit from Nick Saban and Lance Thompson, has said he will visit Tennessee on Jan. 23. Further, Trent Richardson, who was caught completely off-guard by Thompson's switch, has said he will visit Tennessee on Jan. 30. Richardson received a direct call from Saban on Thursday, and Saban told the prized recruit that he was "stunned" by Thompson's departure.

 

Not saying either ends up at UT, but you're just delusional if you think losing Thompson won't hurt you with his recruits. Personally, I couldn't care less about McCarron, because his film is not good, and he looks like a "project" at best. Richardson, OTOH, would be HUGE get, and a nice coup.

 

And folks, let's not let RedFlash fool you- Saban is NOT happy about this one. This coming directly from a member of Bear Bryant's family who is very much in the know.

 

I am sure about AJ McCarron. He has PERSONALLY said in PUBLIC that the only way he doesn't end up at Alabama is if Nick Saban is fired, or up and quit. It is as simple as that. Even if Lance Thompson remain at Alabama, AJ and LT would not have spent much time together, seeing as AJ is a QB, and LT is LB coach. This is a courtesy visit, along with Trent Richardson.

 

I never said LT leaving wouldn't hurt Alabama in recruiting, so please stop putting words in my mouth. The fact is, LT was the "Point Man" in recruiting and Nick Saban is "The Closer" on every prospect that has signed with Alabama. Recruits have signed with Nick Saban and not Lance Tompson. Yes, I know LT was the recruiter of the yr for rivals last yr, but that was more like adding a 2nd layers of iciing on a cake that already had iciing.

 

This is a good move for Tennessee, but I doubt it affects recruiting this yr other then little waves. Alabama will kee their class, without losing a single recruit to Tennessee. Like that or not, that is the truth from this side of the fence. The key members of this class will be signing with Alabama, and LT going to Tennessee will NOT change that.

 

As for AJ, he is a better QB prospect then you give credit for. Saban is letting a nicely talented QB like Clint Moseley (a long time Bama fan, from a Bama family) live the state. And while he is on the smallet size, weight wise, and he clearly had an underwhelming performance at Army All-American Game, that doesn't change the fact he is one of the Top 10 QBs in the class, and with McElroy and Star Jackson (next's yr Jordan Jefferson) on the roster, Alabama can afford to red-shirt AJ and in 2010 he will compete with Star Jackson for a starter's job.

 

I know right now, people on this board LOVES to critic anything Bama (maybe I might have something to do with it), but not everything affects Bama as some might think.

 

The simple truth, LT is going to help Tennessee, NOT THIS YR, tho. Alabama's class is locked, period. AJ and Trent and perhaps Pat Patterson (who is a Bama lean, BTW) are visiting Tennessee as part of the recruiting process. Nobody from the Crimson Tide side is scared of losing anybody to Tennessee. Let's fact it....Nick Saban or Lane Kiffin? Lane is a HC by figurehead only.

[SouthSideRyan]

My favorite part is the "if there's even a little malfeasance, Saban's gonna make you pay with probation/scholarships". That and "I will become an even bigger dbag. That is my goal."

 

A Bama fan should have first hand experience on what's illegal, gotta give him that one. Well and on being a dbag.

[RedFlash]

(SSR everybody is a DBAG, I accept the fact I am and publicly a dbag, will you admit to it. Besides SSR wrong Alabama school about knowing what is illegal. Try Auburn, they lead in PROBATION since 1957. Auburn has been on probation 33% of the time since 1957, far more then Alabama.)

 

I knew Tennessee had no class, but my god.....Tennessee FOUND OUT about CLT "family situation" and basically exploited that to their advantage. They told CLT, we'll pay you xxx amount of dollars to come work for us, the thing is......you have 48 hours to decide.

 

Here's where it get fishy, and ***could*** potentially lead to trouble for Tennessee. Apparently when Team A wants to talk to an assistant of Team B, Team A needs to ask for permission to talk to said Assistant by Team B's AD. Then you need to ask for permission from the HC (in this case it is everybody's fave...Nick Saban) to talk to said member of the staff. But seeing as Nick Saban was geniunely upset and shock on CLT announcing he would go to Tennessee, I kinda doubt Nick Saban gave permission to take to CLT.

 

If something is wrong (I'm not saying there, I think there is something fishy with Tennessee's hiring of LT) here, I hope Nick Saban "Phil Fulmer" Tennessee and get the NCAA to slap UT with some violations. I hope for Tennesse sake they didn't do anything illegal, but something smells fishy.

 

Sorry Dew, I know you like Tennessee, but man people want to criticize Alabama for nothing class, but Tennessee is clearly worse in this sort of thing. But hey Nick Saban and Alabama will drive out Lane Kiffin and his staff in three yrs, anyways.

[Hosak8]

So he didn't get a promotion as he got a raise. Nick had a chance to match the offer, and Nick didn't think CLT was worth the raise. Who am I to argue with Nick Saban, since he does have an eye for talent, players and coaches?

 

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

In other news, UT completed their staff today by adding Eddie Gran (RB's), Frank Wilson (WR's- recently hired by MSU to be their recruiting coordinator), and allegedly Willie Mack Garza (DB's).

[SouthSideRyan]

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

That's why Saban was so shocked. Couldn't believe somebody wouldn't take the highest offer.

[SouthSideRyan]

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I wanna drink his tears.

[dew1679666265]

So he didn't get a promotion as he got a raise. Nick had a chance to match the offer, and Nick didn't think CLT was worth the raise. Who am I to argue with Nick Saban, since he does have an eye for talent, players and coaches?

 

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

In other news, UT completed their staff today by adding Eddie Gran (RB's), Frank Wilson (WR's- recently hired by MSU to be their recruiting coordinator), and allegedly Willie Mack Garza (DB's).

 

I'm very happy with the most recent moves - though admittedly I've never heard of Wilson and Garza. Gran and Thompson should certainly be terrific additions to the staff, though.

[Hosak8]

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

That's why Saban was so shocked. Couldn't believe somebody wouldn't take the highest offer.

 

Yeah, personal experience and Julio Jones will make you only believe in the highest bidder.

[Hosak8]

So he didn't get a promotion as he got a raise. Nick had a chance to match the offer, and Nick didn't think CLT was worth the raise. Who am I to argue with Nick Saban, since he does have an eye for talent, players and coaches?

 

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

In other news, UT completed their staff today by adding Eddie Gran (RB's), Frank Wilson (WR's- recently hired by MSU to be their recruiting coordinator), and allegedly Willie Mack Garza (DB's).

 

I'm very happy with the most recent moves - though admittedly I've never heard of Wilson and Garza. Gran and Thompson should certainly be terrific additions to the staff, though.

 

Wilson was Orgeron's "go-to" recruiter at Ole Miss, and was the lead guy on Joe McKnight, who almost chose Ole Miss over USC. If you read Meat Market, Orgeron is insanely high on Wilson. Wilson was also the director of high school football in New Orleans at one point, so he's highly thought of in LA. He was just hired by Mullen and MSU and named Recruiting Coordinator (giving UT 5 former RC's on their staff) but will leave before coaching a single day at MSU. His hiring has not even been offically announced in Starkville.

 

Garza is a little more unknown, but he's got a pretty good rep in Texas. Most recently the DC at North Dakota State.

[dew1679666265]

So he didn't get a promotion as he got a raise. Nick had a chance to match the offer, and Nick didn't think CLT was worth the raise. Who am I to argue with Nick Saban, since he does have an eye for talent, players and coaches?

 

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

In other news, UT completed their staff today by adding Eddie Gran (RB's), Frank Wilson (WR's- recently hired by MSU to be their recruiting coordinator), and allegedly Willie Mack Garza (DB's).

 

I'm very happy with the most recent moves - though admittedly I've never heard of Wilson and Garza. Gran and Thompson should certainly be terrific additions to the staff, though.

 

Wilson was Orgeron's "go-to" recruiter at Ole Miss, and was the lead guy on Joe McKnight, who almost chose Ole Miss over USC. If you read Meat Market, Orgeron is insanely high on Wilson. Wilson was also the director of high school football in New Orleans at one point, so he's highly thought of in LA. He was just hired by Mullen and MSU and named Recruiting Coordinator (giving UT 5 former RC's on their staff) but will leave before coaching a single day at MSU. His hiring has not even been offically announced in Starkville.

 

Garza is a little more unknown, but he's got a pretty good rep in Texas. Most recently the DC at North Dakota State.

 

Sounds pretty awesome, just so long as these guys can coach.

 

Monte's the only one I'm certain can, but I have to think some of the rest of these guys can. Any clue who the "special teams guru" will be?

[Hosak8]

So he didn't get a promotion as he got a raise. Nick had a chance to match the offer, and Nick didn't think CLT was worth the raise. Who am I to argue with Nick Saban, since he does have an eye for talent, players and coaches?

 

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

In other news, UT completed their staff today by adding Eddie Gran (RB's), Frank Wilson (WR's- recently hired by MSU to be their recruiting coordinator), and allegedly Willie Mack Garza (DB's).

 

I'm very happy with the most recent moves - though admittedly I've never heard of Wilson and Garza. Gran and Thompson should certainly be terrific additions to the staff, though.

 

Wilson was Orgeron's "go-to" recruiter at Ole Miss, and was the lead guy on Joe McKnight, who almost chose Ole Miss over USC. If you read Meat Market, Orgeron is insanely high on Wilson. Wilson was also the director of high school football in New Orleans at one point, so he's highly thought of in LA. He was just hired by Mullen and MSU and named Recruiting Coordinator (giving UT 5 former RC's on their staff) but will leave before coaching a single day at MSU. His hiring has not even been offically announced in Starkville.

 

Garza is a little more unknown, but he's got a pretty good rep in Texas. Most recently the DC at North Dakota State.

 

Sounds pretty awesome, just so long as these guys can coach.

 

Monte's the only one I'm certain can, but I have to think some of the rest of these guys can. Any clue who the "special teams guru" will be?

 

Gran.

[dew1679666265]

So he didn't get a promotion as he got a raise. Nick had a chance to match the offer, and Nick didn't think CLT was worth the raise. Who am I to argue with Nick Saban, since he does have an eye for talent, players and coaches?

 

According to Thompson (on Tennesee's Rivals site), Saban offered him more money to stay then he'll make at UT.

 

In other news, UT completed their staff today by adding Eddie Gran (RB's), Frank Wilson (WR's- recently hired by MSU to be their recruiting coordinator), and allegedly Willie Mack Garza (DB's).

 

I'm very happy with the most recent moves - though admittedly I've never heard of Wilson and Garza. Gran and Thompson should certainly be terrific additions to the staff, though.

 

Wilson was Orgeron's "go-to" recruiter at Ole Miss, and was the lead guy on Joe McKnight, who almost chose Ole Miss over USC. If you read Meat Market, Orgeron is insanely high on Wilson. Wilson was also the director of high school football in New Orleans at one point, so he's highly thought of in LA. He was just hired by Mullen and MSU and named Recruiting Coordinator (giving UT 5 former RC's on their staff) but will leave before coaching a single day at MSU. His hiring has not even been offically announced in Starkville.

 

Garza is a little more unknown, but he's got a pretty good rep in Texas. Most recently the DC at North Dakota State.

 

Sounds pretty awesome, just so long as these guys can coach.

 

Monte's the only one I'm certain can, but I have to think some of the rest of these guys can. Any clue who the "special teams guru" will be?

 

Gran.

 

Makes sense.

[Jon]

Northwestern already has a really strong class, but locking down Proby and getting Custis would make it a great one for us.

 

According to a post on the Northwestern Rivals board, Crane Kenney said on TV that he had some talks with NU AD Jim Phillips about a possible Northwestern vs. Illinois matchup at Wrigley. Since the two play each other in October in 2011 and 2012, it'd have to be in the next two years or after 2012.

 

It would be really cool, but only if a) we wouldn't be giving up a home game and b) I'd still be able to get tickets.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, Custis just picked us over Stanford today. Hot damn.