2009 NFL Draft Thread

[Jehrico]

Yeah, the Eagles just barely missed my top 5. Lions would have been there as well if they would have taken Oher instead of Pettigrew.

i still can't get over it. you have a franchise LT in Oher and DT in Jerry fall in your laps at 20 and you opt for a luxury position in TE. now they're still stuck starting Jeff Backus and Chuck Darby. Delmas would be acceptable if they didn't already use 2nd rounders the last two years with Gerald Alexander and Bullocks. so now Paris Lenon stays put. a team ridden with pressing holes did virtually nothing to patch up any of them, save maybe QB.

 

nasty.

If you go 0-16, there's no excuse for taking a tight end in the first round of the draft. The guy might be a hall of famer, but if you have so many holes on your team that you went 0-16, you don't take a tight end in the first round. Period.

 

Why not? They're not filling all their holes this year anyway, so why not fill some of the holes with the best players there.

 

I'll agree that taking Pettigrew over Oher is a bit baffling, but it's not the difference between them competing this year or not. It's a 2-3 year process that Schwartz is undergoing and I think he drafted that way.

Like it was mentioned earlier...it's a luxury position. You don't go for luxury when you have that much to fix. Doesn't matter if they don't think they'll compete this year, you're not going to fix yourself as quick as you can by going luxury. They've got a new franchise QB. If I were them, I'd have put more into the line to protect him so he doesn't get rattled, possibly lose his confidence, and get ruined after his rookie year. The TE pick for the Lions at 20 was just stupid stupid stupid no matter how you cut it. Then when you consider the alternatives that were out there (aforementioned Oher namely), it magnifies how dumb it was.

[TruffleShuffle]

i give the eagles an a+ and everyone else a D- or worse.

[dew1679666265]

Like it was mentioned earlier...it's a luxury position. You don't go for luxury when you have that much to fix. Doesn't matter if they don't think they'll compete this year, you're not going to fix yourself as quick as you can by going luxury. They've got a new franchise QB. If I were them, I'd have put more into the line to protect him so he doesn't get rattled, possibly lose his confidence, and get ruined after his rookie year. The TE pick for the Lions at 20 was just stupid stupid stupid no matter how you cut it. Then when you consider the alternatives that were out there (aforementioned Oher namely), it magnifies how dumb it was.

 

I would have put more into the line as well, but you have to consider that there are two ways you can help a young, franchise QB. One of those ways is to give him a great offensive line that will protect him. Second, you can give him weapons to throw the ball to. The Lions chose the second route, and it's not necessarily a bad route.

 

If Schwartz runs an offense anything similar to what Fisher/Heimerdinger run in Nashville, he will make use of the tight ends a lot. Bo Scaife - the Titans' #2 TE last year - had the most receptions on the team - 58. The Titan offense values a pass catching TE perhaps more than a wide receiver (hence their reluctance to pour large amounts of money/resources into WRs) and that has to be why Schwartz valued Pettigrew so highly.

 

Keep in mind as well, Pettigrew was the only TE in the draft who is a good blocker and receiver. No other TE in the draft had that mix. He won't block as well as an offensive lineman, obviously, but he's a very good blocker and will help at times with protection, along with the benefit he'll bring in the receiving game.

 

I would have gone with Oher, but it's a very defensible move to go with Pettigrew. A position is only a luxury position if it is not involved in a team's game plan much. This is probably a sign that it will be for Schwartz (like it is for his mentor, Jeff Fisher).

[dew1679666265]

I can't wait for a year after next to watch the great Tim Tebow fail in the NFL. It is going to be glorious. Then he will go off to Zimbabwe to try to convert kids to catholicism.

 

He's far too athletic to fail. He may not stick as a QB, but I'll be shocked if he doesn't excel with a team at another position.

Yeah he'll stick at some position in the NFL. It's important he gets into the right system though. I could see him making it at TE, FB, RB (Wild cat offense 5-10 carries a game), or some limited reps at QB either in the red zone or in a wild cat style offense. He might even be able to make it as a LB.

 

If he can catch the ball, I think he'd make an ideal TE. If he has the speed (which I doubt) he'd be unstoppable at WR, but unless he can outjump DBs I think he'd have trouble separating.

 

LB would also be an interesting spot for him, though with his athletic ability I'd like to keep him on the offensive side of the ball.

[Mephistopheles]

Tebow was recruited to play QB at Bama. Period.

[cubweiser03]

I didnt get the Lions taking Pettigrew either. Oher was sitting in their laps, they needed a LT and also with the addition of Oher they would kick Backus inside and upgrade the LG at the same time. Pettigrew better be really good for the lions and Oher better bust.

[Derwood]

can we at least wait until August before Meph starts fellating Tebow again?

[dew1679666265]

I didnt get the Lions taking Pettigrew either. Oher was sitting in their laps, they needed a LT and also with the addition of Oher they would kick Backus inside and upgrade the LG at the same time. Pettigrew better be really good for the lions and Oher better bust.

 

Gosder Cherilus and Manny Ramirez will take the right side, I assume. Dominic Raiola or Dylan Gandy will handle center.

 

Jeff Backus will play one of the two spots on the left side (likely LT), but I wonder what role Daniel Loper played in their decision? Loper was signed to just a one-year deal, but he was very highly thought of in Tennessee, was coached by one of the best o-line coaches in the game (Mike Munchak) and Schwartz wanted him to come to Detroit with him.

 

I don't know what role they have planned for Loper, but I wonder if they wanted to give him a shot at one of the two spots on the left side and see what he has? If he doesn't work out, they look at guys like Bryan Bulaga or Russell Okung in the 2010 draft.

 

I have no idea what role Schwartz planned for Loper, but I'm betting he thinks highly of him since he brought him from Tennessee.

[Guest]

I didnt get the Lions taking Pettigrew either. Oher was sitting in their laps, they needed a LT and also with the addition of Oher they would kick Backus inside and upgrade the LG at the same time. Pettigrew better be really good for the lions and Oher better bust.

 

Gosder Cherilus and Manny Ramirez will take the right side, I assume. Dominic Raiola or Dylan Gandy will handle center.

 

Jeff Backus will play one of the two spots on the left side (likely LT), but I wonder what role Daniel Loper played in their decision? Loper was signed to just a one-year deal, but he was very highly thought of in Tennessee, was coached by one of the best o-line coaches in the game (Mike Munchak) and Schwartz wanted him to come to Detroit with him.

 

I don't know what role they have planned for Loper, but I wonder if they wanted to give him a shot at one of the two spots on the left side and see what he has? If he doesn't work out, they look at guys like Bryan Bulaga or Russell Okung in the 2010 draft.

 

I have no idea what role Schwartz planned for Loper, but I'm betting he thinks highly of him since he brought him from Tennessee.

 

Manny Ramirez plays football as well? :shock:

[dew1679666265]

I didnt get the Lions taking Pettigrew either. Oher was sitting in their laps, they needed a LT and also with the addition of Oher they would kick Backus inside and upgrade the LG at the same time. Pettigrew better be really good for the lions and Oher better bust.

 

Gosder Cherilus and Manny Ramirez will take the right side, I assume. Dominic Raiola or Dylan Gandy will handle center.

 

Jeff Backus will play one of the two spots on the left side (likely LT), but I wonder what role Daniel Loper played in their decision? Loper was signed to just a one-year deal, but he was very highly thought of in Tennessee, was coached by one of the best o-line coaches in the game (Mike Munchak) and Schwartz wanted him to come to Detroit with him.

 

I don't know what role they have planned for Loper, but I wonder if they wanted to give him a shot at one of the two spots on the left side and see what he has? If he doesn't work out, they look at guys like Bryan Bulaga or Russell Okung in the 2010 draft.

 

I have no idea what role Schwartz planned for Loper, but I'm betting he thinks highly of him since he brought him from Tennessee.

 

Manny Ramirez plays football as well? :shock:

 

What can I say, he's an amazing athlete. :D

 

Different Manny, though.

[RedFlash]

Tebow was recruited to play QB at Bama. Period.

 

Not from what I heard. Some may have recruited himt to "play QB" at Bama, but the prevailing thought was he was going to play LB for Shula. It was because he didn't want to play LB and wanting to play QB as the reason he chose Floirda. That and he had ties to Florida. Shula may have giving him time at QB early, but I guarantee Shula wanted him for LBer.

[Vanilla Ice]

lol

[hawkeyecub]

I'm pretty pleased with the Vikings draft. 3 biggest needs were WR, RT and CB.

 

Harvin was who I wanted at 22. There is some boom or bust involved there but I think he's worth the risk given the current state of the team and what else was available. Loadholt and Allen were two solid value picks at positions of need. Jasper Brinkley will make the team as a 5th round pick and help out on special teams.

[Soul]

I'm pretty pleased with the Vikings draft. 3 biggest needs were WR, RT and CB.

 

Harvin was who I wanted at 22. There is some boom or bust involved there but I think he's worth the risk given the current state of the team and what else was available. Loadholt and Allen were two solid value picks at positions of need. Jasper Brinkley will make the team as a 5th round pick and help out on special teams.

 

I still think QB is a huge need position for the Vikes.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm pretty pleased with the Vikings draft. 3 biggest needs were WR, RT and CB.

 

Harvin was who I wanted at 22. There is some boom or bust involved there but I think he's worth the risk given the current state of the team and what else was available. Loadholt and Allen were two solid value picks at positions of need. Jasper Brinkley will make the team as a 5th round pick and help out on special teams.

 

I still think QB is a huge need position for the Vikes.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure how WR is a bigger need than QB. At least they have Berrian. What they don't have is somebody to throw to him.

[hawkeyecub]

I'm pretty pleased with the Vikings draft. 3 biggest needs were WR, RT and CB.

 

Harvin was who I wanted at 22. There is some boom or bust involved there but I think he's worth the risk given the current state of the team and what else was available. Loadholt and Allen were two solid value picks at positions of need. Jasper Brinkley will make the team as a 5th round pick and help out on special teams.

 

I still think QB is a huge need position for the Vikes.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure how WR is a bigger need than QB. At least they have Berrian. What they don't have is somebody to throw to him.

 

I guess I could have clarified. QB is the most important position in the sport and is a huge question mark. But they're set on a Sage/Tarvaris competition and likely having Sage as the starting QB.

No one in this draft was going to be an upgrade on the QB spot for next year. Even as a long-term option there wasn't really much that could have been addressed at QB from where they were.

[YearofDaCubs]

I think Sage if going to be better than most people think. Aside from his obvious late game blunders he looked really good playing for the Texans when Schaub went down with an injury.

[OleMissCub]

Crabtree's reaction when he saw that Oakland didn't pick him:

 

http://i43.tinypic.com/xn8a4n.gif

 

DHB's reaction was on the opposite end of that. He looked like he was just sentenced to death:

 

 

[Tracer Bullet]

Crabtree's reaction when he saw that Oakland didn't pick him:

 

http://i43.tinypic.com/xn8a4n.gif

 

DHB's reaction was on the opposite end of that. He looked like he was just sentenced to death:

 

 

 

His mom seemed pretty happy that he just became a millionaire.

[jersey cubs fan]

Crabtree's reaction when he saw that Oakland didn't pick him:

 

http://i43.tinypic.com/xn8a4n.gif

 

DHB's reaction was on the opposite end of that. He looked like he was just sentenced to death:

 

 

 

I believe it was Erin Andrews who reported that somebody in his party whiped his brown and said, "phewww" when Oakland did not pick him.

 

Which player had the plumbers crack chick? That was painful.

[OleMissCub]

Which player had the plumbers crack chick? That was painful.

 

Knowshon I believe

[SouthSideRyan]

Crabtree's reaction when he saw that Oakland didn't pick him:

 

http://i43.tinypic.com/xn8a4n.gif

 

DHB's reaction was on the opposite end of that. He looked like he was just sentenced to death:

 

 

 

I believe it was Erin Andrews who reported that somebody in his party whiped his brown and said, "phewww" when Oakland did not pick him.

 

Which player had the plumbers crack chick? That was painful.

 

The guy right next to him in that gif does it.

[TruffleShuffle]

wiped his brown??? that's really gross.

[hardcorecubfan]

you got to be kidding me, someone actually watch and followed that crap. Half will get blown out knees in the training camps the other 99 percent you will never here of again

 

How does the NFL stay in business if no players will ever actually be successful?

 

The one percent

[Derwood]

you got to be kidding me, someone actually watch and followed that crap. Half will get blown out knees in the training camps the other 99 percent you will never here of again

 

How does the NFL stay in business if no players will ever actually be successful?

 

The one percent

 

you don't teach math I take it