2009 NFL Draft Thread

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The deadline for underclassmen to turn pro is January 15. The draft starts on April 25.

 

Underclassmen Turning Pro:

 

CB Asher Allen, Georgia

DT Chris Baker, Hampton

WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers

OT Eben Britton, Arizona

RB Donald Brown, Connecticut

DE Everette Brown, Florida State

CB Jairus Byrd, Oregon

TE James Casey, Rice (sophomore)

WR Jeremy Childs, Boise State

RB Glen Coffee, Alabama

WR Austin Collie, BYU

S Emmanuel Cook, South Carolina

TE Jared Cook, South Carolina

WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech (sophomore)

TE Andrew Davie, Arkansas

QB Nate Davis, Ball State

CB Vontae Davis, Illinois

DE Maurice Evans, Penn State

QB Josh Freeman, Kansas State

RB Shonn Greene, Iowa

WR Brian Hartline, Ohio State

WR Percy Harvin, Florida

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland

RB PJ Hill, Wisconsin

G Greg Isdaner, West Virginia

DT Rickey Jean-Francois, LSU

DE Paul Kruger, Utah (sophomore)

WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri (sophomore)

DT Sen'Derrick Marks, Auburn

RB Brandon Mason, Stony Brook

DE Aaron Maybin, Penn State (sophomore)

RB LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh (sophomore)

LB Gerald McRath, Southern Mississippi

WR Andrew Means, Indiana

CB DJ Moore, Vanderbilt

RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia (sophomore)

TE Cameron Morrah, UC Berkeley

CB Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina

WR Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina

WR Kevin Ogletree, Virginia

CB Jerraud Powers, Auburn

TE Robert Quinn, North Carolina

S Anthony Reddick, Miami (FL)

QB Mark Sanchez, USC

OT Andre Smith, Alabama

CB Sean Smith, Utah

QB Matt Stafford, Georgia

CB Donald Washington, Ohio State

RB Chris Wells, Ohio State

DE Brandon Williams, Texas Tech

CB James Williams, Southern Connecticut

 

Returning:

 

DT Geno Atkins, Georgia

OT Ciron Black, LSU

QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (sophomore)

CB Crezdon Butler, Clemson

LB Reggie Carter, UCLA

FS Kam Chancellor, Virginia

DT Terrence Cody, Alabama

DE Antonio Coleman, Auburn

RB CJ Gable, USC (sophomore)

WR Marshawn Gilyard, Cincinnati

DE Brandon Graham, Michigan

TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma

DE Greg Hardy, Ole Miss

LB Mark Herzlich, Boston College

DT Arthur Jones, Syracuse

LB Micah Johnson, Kentucky

RB Stafon Johnson, USC

LB Sergio Kindle, Texas

WR Brandon LaFell, LSU

CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky

S Taylor Mays, USC

QB Colt McCoy, Texas

DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (sophomore)

S Demetrice Morley, Tennessee

LB Eric Norwood, South Carolina

DT Vince Oghobaase, Duke

RB Charles Scott, LSU

DE George Selvie, South Florida

LB Brandon Spikes, Florida

RB CJ Spiller, Clemson

DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska

QB Tim Tebow, Florida

CB Alterraun Verner, UCLA

WR Damian Williams, USC

OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma

LB Sean Witherspoon, Missouri

 

S Myron Rolle of FSU is going to forgo his senior year of eligibility to go to Oxford as a Rhodes scholar and will then turn pro.

[Derwood]

What's the word on Bradford? I know he's a sophomore, but I've seen several mock drafts with him going either #1 or #3 in the first round.

[Guest]

What's the word on Bradford? I know he's a sophomore, but I've seen several mock drafts with him going either #1 or #3 in the first round.

 

He's a redshirt sophomore so he, like Michael Crabtree, is eligible for the draft.

[Derwood]

What's the word on Bradford? I know he's a sophomore, but I've seen several mock drafts with him going either #1 or #3 in the first round.

 

He's a redshirt sophomore so he, like Michael Crabtree, is eligible for the draft.

 

right, just didn't know if he was leaning one way or the other. I suppose a lot will hinge on the outcome of Thursday's game

[jersey cubs fan]

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

[Guest]

What's the word on Bradford? I know he's a sophomore, but I've seen several mock drafts with him going either #1 or #3 in the first round.

 

He's a redshirt sophomore so he, like Michael Crabtree, is eligible for the draft.

 

right, just didn't know if he was leaning one way or the other. I suppose a lot will hinge on the outcome of Thursday's game

 

Oh, my bad. Most of these guys don't make their intentions clear till after their bowl game.

 

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

 

I don't understand the Heisman thing. Greene and Crabtree/Harrell deserved to be in NYC. Shonn doesn't have first round speed, he can get away from college defenses but he's not athletic enough to do that in the NFL. I think you're right, 3rd rounder.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't understand the Heisman thing. Greene and Crabtree/Harrell deserved to be in NYC. Shonn doesn't have first round speed, he can get away from college defenses but he's not athletic enough to do that in the NFL. I think you're right, 3rd rounder.

 

How does his speed compare to Thomas Jones and Matt Forte? The Bears need a complementary back.

[Guest]

I don't understand the Heisman thing. Greene and Crabtree/Harrell deserved to be in NYC. Shonn doesn't have first round speed, he can get away from college defenses but he's not athletic enough to do that in the NFL. I think you're right, 3rd rounder.

 

How does his speed compare to Thomas Jones and Matt Forte? The Bears need a complementary back.

 

Not the guy you want if you want speed, he's slower than Forte on the field. Also doesn't catch a lot of passes. I can't say on Thomas Jones because I haven't seen him the past 2 seasons.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't understand the Heisman thing. Greene and Crabtree/Harrell deserved to be in NYC. Shonn doesn't have first round speed, he can get away from college defenses but he's not athletic enough to do that in the NFL. I think you're right, 3rd rounder.

 

How does his speed compare to Thomas Jones and Matt Forte? The Bears need a complementary back.

 

Not the guy you want if you want speed, he's slower than Forte on the field. Also doesn't catch a lot of passes. I can't say on Thomas Jones because I haven't seen him the past 2 seasons.

 

You can tell by seeing him?

 

Thomas Jones isn't fast. I don't necessarily want speed. I want a complementary running back. Speed can be easily overrated, especially at that position. I want a guy that can break some tackles, make some moves and gain yards.

[Guest]

I don't understand the Heisman thing. Greene and Crabtree/Harrell deserved to be in NYC. Shonn doesn't have first round speed, he can get away from college defenses but he's not athletic enough to do that in the NFL. I think you're right, 3rd rounder.

 

How does his speed compare to Thomas Jones and Matt Forte? The Bears need a complementary back.

 

Not the guy you want if you want speed, he's slower than Forte on the field. Also doesn't catch a lot of passes. I can't say on Thomas Jones because I haven't seen him the past 2 seasons.

 

You can tell by seeing him?

 

Thomas Jones isn't fast. I don't necessarily want speed. I want a complementary running back. Speed can be easily overrated, especially at that position. I want a guy that can break some tackles, make some moves and gain yards.

 

Well, I meant I don't know how Thomas Jones has aged the past two seasons.

 

I agree with you on speed at running back, you want a guy with vision and the ability to make moves. And that's Greene (he definitely can break tackles). I don't like his lack of pass catching though, especially if he's going to be on the field on 3rd downs like the Bears' Adrian Peterson is used now.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

I doubt he falls to the 3rd. the impressive thing about Greene is he started the season still very much out of shape. I can see him being anywhere between a mid-1st and mid-2nd round selection with a good showing at the combine.

[jersey cubs fan]

Well, I meant I don't know how Thomas Jones has aged the past two seasons.

 

I agree with you on speed at running back, you want a guy with vision and the ability to make moves. And that's Greene (he definitely can break tackles). I don't like his lack of pass catching though, especially if he's going to be on the field on 3rd downs like the Bears' Adrian Peterson is used now.

 

I don't want the Bears backup to be used like Peterson. I want Forte to get less touches next year, or else he'll be useless by 2010. The pass catching is a concern, but I don't know if that's because they didn't use him that way or he can't do it. I definitely think it's easier to teach a runner to catch the ball than teaching a good pass catcher to run well.

[Guest]

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

I doubt he falls to the 3rd. the impressive thing about Greene is he started the season still very much out of shape. I can see him being anywhere between a mid-1st and mid-2nd round selection with a good showing at the combine.

 

Really? Didn't know the bit about being out of shape.

[MPC]

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

I doubt he falls to the 3rd. the impressive thing about Greene is he started the season still very much out of shape. I can see him being anywhere between a mid-1st and mid-2nd round selection with a good showing at the combine.

 

is it a good thing that he was out of shape? i'd prefer a running back that worked hard in the off season and came into camp ready to be good.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

I doubt he falls to the 3rd. the impressive thing about Greene is he started the season still very much out of shape. I can see him being anywhere between a mid-1st and mid-2nd round selection with a good showing at the combine.

 

Really? Didn't know the bit about being out of shape.

he was somewhere around 30 pounds heavier just a few short months before the season started after sitting out last year. he could probably afford to lose another 10

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

I doubt he falls to the 3rd. the impressive thing about Greene is he started the season still very much out of shape. I can see him being anywhere between a mid-1st and mid-2nd round selection with a good showing at the combine.

 

is it a good thing that he was out of shape? i'd prefer a running back that worked hard in the off season and came into camp ready to be good.

I'm not saying it was a good or bad thing. he wasn't at the university and didn't have access to their training equipment or personnel. he was going to school and working a lot just trying to pay his bills and get back to Iowa.

[Guest]

http://www.nfldraftu.net/rankings/rb.shtml

 

Shonn Greene - Iowa (HT: 5'11" | WT: 235)

Projection: 2nd Round

 

Strengths:

-Consistent, 100 rushing yards in every game in 2008

-Not many miles on his legs, this is his first season as a starter

-Physical runner who can run through arm tackles

-Big frame, will be able to add another 5-10 lbs

-Follows his blockers well and is able to find the hole

-Strong and moves his feet well between the tackles

 

Weaknesses:

-Has only had one good season

-Not very fast, will have a hard time outrunning faster LBs in the NFL

-Does not catch the ball, only 11 career catches

-Did not participate with the football team in 2007 after being declared academically ineligible

 

Running Backs

1. Chris Wells

2. Knowshon Moreno

3. LeSean McCoy

4. Shonn Greene

5. Donald Brown

6. C.J. Spiller

7. Javon Ringer

8. James Davis

9. Rashad Jennings

10. Arian Foster

11. Tyrell Sutton

12. Jeremiah Johnson

13. Marlon Lucky

14. Andre Brown

15. Cedric Peerman

16. Devin Moore

17. Kory Sheets

18. Branden Ore

19. Javarris Williams

20. Pat White

 

I know there are a bunch of draft sites out there but I know one of the guys who runs this site and he knows his draft stuff inside and out.

[MPC]

I couldn't understand why Shonn Greene was never in the discussion for the Heisman and got zero draft talk. I looked at several mocks that didn't have him anywhere to be seen. If all sorts of QBs are putting up ridiculous spread offense numbers, maybe it isn't that much of an accomplishment. Is he going to fall to the 3rd?

I doubt he falls to the 3rd. the impressive thing about Greene is he started the season still very much out of shape. I can see him being anywhere between a mid-1st and mid-2nd round selection with a good showing at the combine.

 

is it a good thing that he was out of shape? i'd prefer a running back that worked hard in the off season and came into camp ready to be good.

I'm not saying it was a good or bad thing. he wasn't at the university and didn't have access to their training equipment or personnel. he was going to school and working a lot just trying to pay his bills and get back to Iowa.

 

gotcha, i forgot about him being out of school.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I also don't know how valid the criticism is of Greene as a pass catcher, as that is something missing from the Ken O'Keefe offense. they simply don't throw the ball to the RB

[SpongeWorthy]

I wonder where Freeman will be drafted. He has a lot of ability and was stuck in a pretty crappy situation at Kansas State. He definitely needs another year but I can see why he wanted to come out early.

[rchap24]

http://www.nfldraftu.net/rankings/rb.shtml

 

Shonn Greene - Iowa (HT: 5'11" | WT: 235)

Projection: 2nd Round

 

Strengths:

-Consistent, 100 rushing yards in every game in 2008

-Not many miles on his legs, this is his first season as a starter

-Physical runner who can run through arm tackles

-Big frame, will be able to add another 5-10 lbs

-Follows his blockers well and is able to find the hole

-Strong and moves his feet well between the tackles

 

Weaknesses:

-Has only had one good season

-Not very fast, will have a hard time outrunning faster LBs in the NFL

-Does not catch the ball, only 11 career catches

-Did not participate with the football team in 2007 after being declared academically ineligible

 

Running Backs

1. Chris Wells

2. Knowshon Moreno

3. LeSean McCoy

4. Shonn Greene

5. Donald Brown

6. C.J. Spiller

7. Javon Ringer

8. James Davis

9. Rashad Jennings

10. Arian Foster

11. Tyrell Sutton

12. Jeremiah Johnson

13. Marlon Lucky

14. Andre Brown

15. Cedric Peerman

16. Devin Moore

17. Kory Sheets

18. Branden Ore

19. Javarris Williams

20. Pat White

 

I know there are a bunch of draft sites out there but I know one of the guys who runs this site and he knows his draft stuff inside and out.

 

I'd agree at least with the top 4...Green will be a good back though

[SpongeWorthy]

Is Shady McCoy in the draft for sure?

[Guest]

Is Shady McCoy in the draft for sure?

 

No, he hasn't decided yet.

[Mephistopheles]

Shonn Greene had no business even being brought up in the Heisman discussion.

[imb]

beanie cant stay on the field in college, he's gonna get knocked around in the nfl