Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[CubFanPhilly]

Assuming the trade is something like Vitters, Pie, Cedeno, Veal, Gaudin (dealt or non-tendered), & Marquis (to a 3rd team), here's a guess at what payroll looks like:

 

S - Zambrano $18.75M

S - Peavy $8.0M

S - Dempster $9.0M

S - Lilly $13.0M

S - Harden $7.0M

BP - Gregg $5.0M (arb.)

BP - Marmol $0.5M

BP - Guzman $0.45M

BP - Cotts $1.5M

BP - Wuertz $1.3M

BP/SWING - Marshall $0.5M

BP/AAA - Samardzija $2.4M (Shark, Marshall, Marmol & Guzman would have options)

 

C - Soto $0.5M

1B - Lee $13.0M

2B - DeRosa $5.5M

SS - Theriot $0.5M

3B - Ramirez $16.65M

LF - Soriano $17.0M

CF - Fukudome/Johnson $12.5M

RF - Ibanez or Abreu $7.0M-8.0M (obviously it would have to be a backloaded 3-4 yr deal), or whatever 3rd rate FA they can sign for this type of money.

 

IF - Fontenot $0.45M

IF - Rule V pick, Nate Spears, or someone coming back in Gaudin or Peavy trade? $0.45M

1B/OF - Hoffpauir $0.45M

OF - Johnson $3.0M

C - K. Hill $0.5M (or Blanco ~$1M)

 

Cash thrown in with Marquis - ~$2.5M

Buy-outs - $0.3 (Blanco)

 

TOTAL: ~$148-149M

 

Gaudin seems to be a lock to be gone if they trade for Peavy. ~$148M would be tied up in 2010 without replacing Harden, DeRosa, Gregg or Johnson. I have to imagine Harden would be gone.

[CUBZ99]

Assuming the trade is something like Vitters, Pie, Cedeno, Veal, Gaudin (dealt or non-tendered), & Marquis (to a 3rd team), here's a guess at what payroll looks like:

 

S - Zambrano $18.75M

S - Peavy $8.0M

S - Dempster $9.0M

S - Lilly $13.0M

S - Harden $7.0M

BP - Gregg $5.0M (arb.)

BP - Marmol $0.5M

BP - Guzman $0.45M

BP - Cotts $1.5M

BP - Wuertz $1.3M

BP/SWING - Marshall $0.5M

BP/AAA - Samardzija $2.4M (Shark, Marshall, Marmol & Guzman would have options)

 

C - Soto $0.5M

1B - Lee $13.0M

2B - DeRosa $5.5M

SS - Theriot $0.5M

3B - Ramirez $16.65M

LF - Soriano $17.0M

CF - Fukudome/Johnson $12.5M

RF - Ibanez or Abreu $7.0M-8.0M (obviously it would have to be a backloaded 3-4 yr deal), or whatever 3rd rate FA they can sign for this type of money.

 

IF - Fontenot $0.45M

IF - Rule V pick, Nate Spears, or someone coming back in Gaudin or Peavy trade? $0.45M

1B/OF - Hoffpauir $0.45M

OF - Johnson $3.0M

C - K. Hill $0.5M (or Blanco ~$1M)

 

Cash thrown in with Marquis - ~$2.5M

Buy-outs - $0.3 (Blanco)

 

TOTAL: ~$148-149M

 

Gaudin seems to be a lock to be gone if they trade for Peavy. ~$148M would be tied up in 2010 without replacing Harden, DeRosa, Gregg or Johnson. I have to imagine Harden would be gone.

 

Seems like if Hendry wanted to dump payroll to add Peavy, trading Lee would be a good option. Maybe Bruce will let us in on whether Lee has given the Cubs a list of teams that he would be willing to accept a trade to.

Edited December 6, 2008 by CUBZ99

[BigbadB]

So, if I want to follow the winter meetings, and you say to update your favorite baseball site, which site(s) do you recommend? I'm clearing my calendar for next week.

 

This one, of course. Anyone who is following any wire service will just post their info here as soon as something comes across.

 

MLBTR used to get a bad rap, but I think they've been doing a pretty good job of reporting from all over the country. He seems to be a bit faster than Rotoworld.

 

And now that we know Bruce Miles will be in Vegas, you'll want to keep an eye on his blog.

[abuck1220]

i bet hendry's annoyed at how open towers is about all this. that's not hendry's style at all.

[BigbadB]

I wonder if Toronto might be a good trade partner for Marquis. They definitely appear to be losing AJ Burnett, which leaves Roy Halladay as the only veteran SP in a rotation that has some talented young starters. An inning eater like Marquis might be a nice fit. Toronto also got 245 innings of relief in 2008 from 4 left handed relievers. Toronto also needs to make room in the outfield for Travis Snider. Therefore, might I suggest:

 

Toronto gets Jason Marquis (minus 3m of his contract) and Chad Gaudin or Michael Wuertz

 

Cubs get Adam Lind and one of Jesse Carlson, Scott Downs or Brian Tallet.

[BigbadB]

i bet hendry's annoyed at how open towers is about all this. that's not hendry's style at all.

 

Towers has put all of his cards on the table since day 1. That's some crazy negotiating tactics.

[Jehrico]

i bet hendry's annoyed at how open towers is about all this. that's not hendry's style at all.

 

Towers has put all of his cards on the table since day 1. That's some crazy negotiating tactics.

Towers is in an odd position. He kind of has to with this one. There's going to be a fan backlash, as there's no way they're getting fair value in return for Peavy. he doesn't want to dump Peavy, but he really doesn't have a choice. I think he's making it open so the fans see that he is doing what he can to make a move that he's being forced to make in order to minimize damage done to the fan base.

[Clem Fandango]

I wonder if Toronto might be a good trade partner for Marquis. They definitely appear to be losing AJ Burnett, which leaves Roy Halladay as the only veteran SP in a rotation that has some talented young starters. An inning eater like Marquis might be a nice fit. Toronto also got 245 innings of relief in 2008 from 4 left handed relievers. Toronto also needs to make room in the outfield for Travis Snider. Therefore, might I suggest:

 

Toronto gets Jason Marquis (minus 3m of his contract) and Chad Gaudin or Michael Wuertz

 

Cubs get Adam Lind and one of Jesse Carlson, Scott Downs or Brian Tallet.

 

Would that package even get us Lind alone? I know he hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire, but he was still their top prospect at one point, although it seems he can't take a walk if his life depended on it. Would the Jays just trade him for an overpaid innings eater and a serviceable reliever? I'd love to have the guy and all that but that seems like a weak offer for Lind's potential.

[Post Count Padder]

I wonder if Toronto might be a good trade partner for Marquis. They definitely appear to be losing AJ Burnett, which leaves Roy Halladay as the only veteran SP in a rotation that has some talented young starters. An inning eater like Marquis might be a nice fit. Toronto also got 245 innings of relief in 2008 from 4 left handed relievers. Toronto also needs to make room in the outfield for Travis Snider. Therefore, might I suggest:

 

Toronto gets Jason Marquis (minus 3m of his contract) and Chad Gaudin or Michael Wuertz

 

Cubs get Adam Lind and one of Jesse Carlson, Scott Downs or Brian Tallet.

Marquis and Wuertz for Lind and Downs. Done.

[Backtobanks]

Assuming the trade is something like Vitters, Pie, Cedeno, Veal, Gaudin (dealt or non-tendered), & Marquis (to a 3rd team), here's a guess at what payroll looks like:

 

S - Zambrano $18.75M

S - Peavy $8.0M

S - Dempster $9.0M

S - Lilly $13.0M

S - Harden $7.0M

BP - Gregg $5.0M (arb.)

BP - Marmol $0.5M

BP - Guzman $0.45M

BP - Cotts $1.5M

BP - Wuertz $1.3M

BP/SWING - Marshall $0.5M

BP/AAA - Samardzija $2.4M (Shark, Marshall, Marmol & Guzman would have options)

 

C - Soto $0.5M

1B - Lee $13.0M

2B - DeRosa $5.5M

SS - Theriot $0.5M

3B - Ramirez $16.65M

LF - Soriano $17.0M

CF - Fukudome/Johnson $12.5M

RF - Ibanez or Abreu $7.0M-8.0M (obviously it would have to be a backloaded 3-4 yr deal), or whatever 3rd rate FA they can sign for this type of money.

 

IF - Fontenot $0.45M

IF - Rule V pick, Nate Spears, or someone coming back in Gaudin or Peavy trade? $0.45M

1B/OF - Hoffpauir $0.45M

OF - Johnson $3.0M

C - K. Hill $0.5M (or Blanco ~$1M)

 

Cash thrown in with Marquis - ~$2.5M

Buy-outs - $0.3 (Blanco)

 

TOTAL: ~$148-149M

 

Gaudin seems to be a lock to be gone if they trade for Peavy. ~$148M would be tied up in 2010 without replacing Harden, DeRosa, Gregg or Johnson. I have to imagine Harden would be gone.

 

I can't see Gaudin non-tendered. He's 25 years old with experience both as a starter and a reliever. If he was non-tendered, he would be snapped up in 5 minutes. I would think Wuertz would be a better candidate for being traded since he was in Lou's doghouse last year.

[Post Count Padder]

According to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times, Cubs CEO Crane Kenney said today that the team's 2009 payroll exceeds $140MM. The Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan said Kenney wouldn't give a payroll figure, but his sources indicated it might be in the $140-145MM range. By Wittenmyer's calculations, the Cubs have about $133MM likely to be committed to the current group.

 

Wittenmyer adds that the Cubs would be willing to eat as much as $4MM of Jason Marquis' $9.875MM salary to move him. If the Cubs were to add Jake Peavy after that, they'd be around $138MM. They could then squeeze in their coveted left-handed hitting outfielder.

 

Wittenmyer says the Cubs are still interested in Peavy, and talks with the Padres will resume Sunday in Vegas. Ken Rosenthal wrote a day ago that the Cubs were putting the Peavy pursuit on hold until they added the left-handed hitting bat.

 

Wittenmyer reports that Kenney said he expects the Cubs' sale to close by Opening Day. Sullivan has Kenney saying it should be done by spring training.

[CubFanPhilly]

Assuming the trade is something like Vitters, Pie, Cedeno, Veal, Gaudin (dealt or non-tendered), & Marquis (to a 3rd team), here's a guess at what payroll looks like:

 

S - Zambrano $18.75M

S - Peavy $8.0M

S - Dempster $9.0M

S - Lilly $13.0M

S - Harden $7.0M

BP - Gregg $5.0M (arb.)

BP - Marmol $0.5M

BP - Guzman $0.45M

BP - Cotts $1.5M

BP - Wuertz $1.3M

BP/SWING - Marshall $0.5M

BP/AAA - Samardzija $2.4M (Shark, Marshall, Marmol & Guzman would have options)

 

C - Soto $0.5M

1B - Lee $13.0M

2B - DeRosa $5.5M

SS - Theriot $0.5M

3B - Ramirez $16.65M

LF - Soriano $17.0M

CF - Fukudome/Johnson $12.5M

RF - Ibanez or Abreu $7.0M-8.0M (obviously it would have to be a backloaded 3-4 yr deal), or whatever 3rd rate FA they can sign for this type of money.

 

IF - Fontenot $0.45M

IF - Rule V pick, Nate Spears, or someone coming back in Gaudin or Peavy trade? $0.45M

1B/OF - Hoffpauir $0.45M

OF - Johnson $3.0M

C - K. Hill $0.5M (or Blanco ~$1M)

 

Cash thrown in with Marquis - ~$2.5M

Buy-outs - $0.3 (Blanco)

 

TOTAL: ~$148-149M

 

Gaudin seems to be a lock to be gone if they trade for Peavy. ~$148M would be tied up in 2010 without replacing Harden, DeRosa, Gregg or Johnson. I have to imagine Harden would be gone.

 

I can't see Gaudin non-tendered. He's 25 years old with experience both as a starter and a reliever. If he was non-tendered, he would be snapped up in 5 minutes. I would think Wuertz would be a better candidate for being traded since he was in Lou's doghouse last year.

 

I think he's more likely to be traded than non-tendered. But when you're likely to be as much as $5M over budget, the $3M Gaudin's likely to get through arbitration is meaningful. My preference would be to see Gaudin and Marshall held and Cotts and/or Wuertz traded, but I doubt that's possible with a Peavy trade.

[CubFanPhilly]

According to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times, Cubs CEO Crane Kenney said today that the team's 2009 payroll exceeds $140MM. The Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan said Kenney wouldn't give a payroll figure, but his sources indicated it might be in the $140-145MM range. By Wittenmyer's calculations, the Cubs have about $133MM likely to be committed to the current group.

 

Wittenmyer adds that the Cubs would be willing to eat as much as $4MM of Jason Marquis' $9.875MM salary to move him. If the Cubs were to add Jake Peavy after that, they'd be around $138MM. They could then squeeze in their coveted left-handed hitting outfielder.

 

Wittenmyer says the Cubs are still interested in Peavy, and talks with the Padres will resume Sunday in Vegas. Ken Rosenthal wrote a day ago that the Cubs were putting the Peavy pursuit on hold until they added the left-handed hitting bat.

 

Wittenmyer reports that Kenney said he expects the Cubs' sale to close by Opening Day. Sullivan has Kenney saying it should be done by spring training.

 

Interesting. Those numbers are about $3-4MM under what I'd estimate, but it's hard to tell what their arbitration estimates/non-tender/trade plans are. $4MM thrown in with Marquis should make him very tradeable.

[Mephistopheles]

Wan't it reported somewhere like three weeks ago where the Cubs payroll could increase to about $150,000,000?

[Guest]

So, if I want to follow the winter meetings, and you say to update your favorite baseball site, which site(s) do you recommend? I'm clearing my calendar for next week.

:evil:

[cubsfan26]

Assuming the trade is something like Vitters, Pie, Cedeno, Veal, Gaudin (dealt or non-tendered), & Marquis (to a 3rd team), here's a guess at what payroll looks like:

 

S - Zambrano $18.75M

S - Peavy $8.0M

S - Dempster $9.0M

S - Lilly $13.0M

S - Harden $7.0M

BP - Gregg $5.0M (arb.)

BP - Marmol $0.5M

BP - Guzman $0.45M

BP - Cotts $1.5M

BP - Wuertz $1.3M

BP/SWING - Marshall $0.5M

BP/AAA - Samardzija $2.4M (Shark, Marshall, Marmol & Guzman would have options)

 

C - Soto $0.5M

1B - Lee $13.0M

2B - DeRosa $5.5M

SS - Theriot $0.5M

3B - Ramirez $16.65M

LF - Soriano $17.0M

CF - Fukudome/Johnson $12.5M

RF - Ibanez or Abreu $7.0M-8.0M (obviously it would have to be a backloaded 3-4 yr deal), or whatever 3rd rate FA they can sign for this type of money.

 

IF - Fontenot $0.45M

IF - Rule V pick, Nate Spears, or someone coming back in Gaudin or Peavy trade? $0.45M

1B/OF - Hoffpauir $0.45M

OF - Johnson $3.0M

C - K. Hill $0.5M (or Blanco ~$1M)

 

Cash thrown in with Marquis - ~$2.5M

Buy-outs - $0.3 (Blanco)

 

TOTAL: ~$148-149M

 

Gaudin seems to be a lock to be gone if they trade for Peavy. ~$148M would be tied up in 2010 without replacing Harden, DeRosa, Gregg or Johnson. I have to imagine Harden would be gone.

 

I can't see Gaudin non-tendered. He's 25 years old with experience both as a starter and a reliever. If he was non-tendered, he would be snapped up in 5 minutes. I would think Wuertz would be a better candidate for being traded since he was in Lou's doghouse last year.

 

I think he's more likely to be traded than non-tendered. But when you're likely to be as much as $5M over budget, the $3M Gaudin's likely to get through arbitration is meaningful. My preference would be to see Gaudin and Marshall held and Cotts and/or Wuertz traded, but I doubt that's possible with a Peavy trade.

 

 

Would Gaudin get that much of a raise though? He made 1.7m last year, and got a solid raise because he was a SP most of 07. Since he was a reliever most of 08, and overall had a subpar year. I could see him agreeing to something like 2.2-2.3m for 09. I also heard Gregg might make more in the 4-4.5m range, he blew 9 saves and lost his closer job in September. So I can't see him getting a huge raise either. If Gregg only makes something like 4.3m, and Gaudin makes something like 2.2m. It would allow them to trade or nontender Wuertz and stay in the 148-149m range. Plus they can also backload their RF a little bit more for 09. Especially with there being a good chance we get a RF for a bargin 7-9m price, with the market so bad right now.

[PrimeTime]

Just the latest on Roto..I hope to God that last source is right.

 

Two Cubs sources told the Sun-Times that the Cubs still are interested in Jake Peavy, with one saying he expects a deal to get done.

There's been talk that the Cubs don't have the ability to do the deal with ownership still up in the air, but it looks like they could boast a $140 million payroll anyway, giving them the flexibility they'd need. Such a plan would likely involve trading Jason Marquis, even if a portion of his $9.875 million salary had to be eaten.

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

[Backtobanks]

Assuming the trade is something like Vitters, Pie, Cedeno, Veal, Gaudin (dealt or non-tendered), & Marquis (to a 3rd team), here's a guess at what payroll looks like:

 

S - Zambrano $18.75M

S - Peavy $8.0M

S - Dempster $9.0M

S - Lilly $13.0M

S - Harden $7.0M

BP - Gregg $5.0M (arb.)

BP - Marmol $0.5M

BP - Guzman $0.45M

BP - Cotts $1.5M

BP - Wuertz $1.3M

BP/SWING - Marshall $0.5M

BP/AAA - Samardzija $2.4M (Shark, Marshall, Marmol & Guzman would have options)

 

C - Soto $0.5M

1B - Lee $13.0M

2B - DeRosa $5.5M

SS - Theriot $0.5M

3B - Ramirez $16.65M

LF - Soriano $17.0M

CF - Fukudome/Johnson $12.5M

RF - Ibanez or Abreu $7.0M-8.0M (obviously it would have to be a backloaded 3-4 yr deal), or whatever 3rd rate FA they can sign for this type of money.

 

IF - Fontenot $0.45M

IF - Rule V pick, Nate Spears, or someone coming back in Gaudin or Peavy trade? $0.45M

1B/OF - Hoffpauir $0.45M

OF - Johnson $3.0M

C - K. Hill $0.5M (or Blanco ~$1M)

 

Cash thrown in with Marquis - ~$2.5M

Buy-outs - $0.3 (Blanco)

 

TOTAL: ~$148-149M

 

Gaudin seems to be a lock to be gone if they trade for Peavy. ~$148M would be tied up in 2010 without replacing Harden, DeRosa, Gregg or Johnson. I have to imagine Harden would be gone.

 

I can't see Gaudin non-tendered. He's 25 years old with experience both as a starter and a reliever. If he was non-tendered, he would be snapped up in 5 minutes. I would think Wuertz would be a better candidate for being traded since he was in Lou's doghouse last year.

 

I think he's more likely to be traded than non-tendered. But when you're likely to be as much as $5M over budget, the $3M Gaudin's likely to get through arbitration is meaningful. My preference would be to see Gaudin and Marshall held and Cotts and/or Wuertz traded, but I doubt that's possible with a Peavy trade.

 

 

Would Gaudin get that much of a raise though? He made 1.7m last year, and got a solid raise because he was a SP most of 07. Since he was a reliever most of 08, and overall had a subpar year. I could see him agreeing to something like 2.2-2.3m for 09. I also heard Gregg might make more in the 4-4.5m range, he blew 9 saves and lost his closer job in September. So I can't see him getting a huge raise either. If Gregg only makes something like 4.3m, and Gaudin makes something like 2.2m. It would allow them to trade or nontender Wuertz and stay in the 148-149m range. Plus they can also backload their RF a little bit more for 09. Especially with there being a good chance we get a RF for a bargin 7-9m price, with the market so bad right now.

 

If we could pick up Scott from the O's, we could solve the RF problem cheaply. I would love to get the Peavy deal done, get Scott, and re-sign Wood to a 1-year deal.

[CubFanPhilly]

Wan't it reported somewhere like three weeks ago where the Cubs payroll could increase to about $150,000,000?

 

Yes, the reports have been as high as $150mm. Bruce M. is estimating $140-145mm.

[PrimeTime]

I wish Hendry would trade Marquis and the whole Triple A team to Texas for Josh Hamilton

[cubsfan26]

Assuming the trade is something like Vitters, Pie, Cedeno, Veal, Gaudin (dealt or non-tendered), & Marquis (to a 3rd team), here's a guess at what payroll looks like:

 

S - Zambrano $18.75M

S - Peavy $8.0M

S - Dempster $9.0M

S - Lilly $13.0M

S - Harden $7.0M

BP - Gregg $5.0M (arb.)

BP - Marmol $0.5M

BP - Guzman $0.45M

BP - Cotts $1.5M

BP - Wuertz $1.3M

BP/SWING - Marshall $0.5M

BP/AAA - Samardzija $2.4M (Shark, Marshall, Marmol & Guzman would have options)

 

C - Soto $0.5M

1B - Lee $13.0M

2B - DeRosa $5.5M

SS - Theriot $0.5M

3B - Ramirez $16.65M

LF - Soriano $17.0M

CF - Fukudome/Johnson $12.5M

RF - Ibanez or Abreu $7.0M-8.0M (obviously it would have to be a backloaded 3-4 yr deal), or whatever 3rd rate FA they can sign for this type of money.

 

IF - Fontenot $0.45M

IF - Rule V pick, Nate Spears, or someone coming back in Gaudin or Peavy trade? $0.45M

1B/OF - Hoffpauir $0.45M

OF - Johnson $3.0M

C - K. Hill $0.5M (or Blanco ~$1M)

 

Cash thrown in with Marquis - ~$2.5M

Buy-outs - $0.3 (Blanco)

 

TOTAL: ~$148-149M

 

Gaudin seems to be a lock to be gone if they trade for Peavy. ~$148M would be tied up in 2010 without replacing Harden, DeRosa, Gregg or Johnson. I have to imagine Harden would be gone.

 

I can't see Gaudin non-tendered. He's 25 years old with experience both as a starter and a reliever. If he was non-tendered, he would be snapped up in 5 minutes. I would think Wuertz would be a better candidate for being traded since he was in Lou's doghouse last year.

 

I think he's more likely to be traded than non-tendered. But when you're likely to be as much as $5M over budget, the $3M Gaudin's likely to get through arbitration is meaningful. My preference would be to see Gaudin and Marshall held and Cotts and/or Wuertz traded, but I doubt that's possible with a Peavy trade.

 

 

Would Gaudin get that much of a raise though? He made 1.7m last year, and got a solid raise because he was a SP most of 07. Since he was a reliever most of 08, and overall had a subpar year. I could see him agreeing to something like 2.2-2.3m for 09. I also heard Gregg might make more in the 4-4.5m range, he blew 9 saves and lost his closer job in September. So I can't see him getting a huge raise either. If Gregg only makes something like 4.3m, and Gaudin makes something like 2.2m. It would allow them to trade or nontender Wuertz and stay in the 148-149m range. Plus they can also backload their RF a little bit more for 09. Especially with there being a good chance we get a RF for a bargin 7-9m price, with the market so bad right now.

 

If we could pick up Scott from the O's, we could solve the RF problem cheaply. I would love to get the Peavy deal done, get Scott, and re-sign Wood to a 1-year deal.

 

 

I doubt we could get Scott cheaply. His salary might be cheap, but I have a feeling MacPhail will want a good prospect or two in return for him. Scott is basically a platoon player, and will probably put up numbers simliar to what Edmonds did last year or a little better. I wouldn't mind adding him but there are better options out there. I'd take him for Kevin Hart, Mike Wuertz, Ronny Cedeno, Randy Wells or Jose Ascanio, but I wouldn't give up much more then that. I don't see why everyone wants to get a cheap RF so we can bring Wood back though. The guy was very good last year, and good many years with the Cubs. But it's time to move on, paying him 9m out of the pen can go to better use. If it's another reliever not named Kerry Wood, very few would want him back at 9m for next year. I think the pen is set unless we trade Marshall or he goes to the rotation full-time. If that happens we might add a veteran LH specialist cheap.

[BigbadB]

I wonder if Toronto might be a good trade partner for Marquis. They definitely appear to be losing AJ Burnett, which leaves Roy Halladay as the only veteran SP in a rotation that has some talented young starters. An inning eater like Marquis might be a nice fit. Toronto also got 245 innings of relief in 2008 from 4 left handed relievers. Toronto also needs to make room in the outfield for Travis Snider. Therefore, might I suggest:

 

Toronto gets Jason Marquis (minus 3m of his contract) and Chad Gaudin or Michael Wuertz

 

Cubs get Adam Lind and one of Jesse Carlson, Scott Downs or Brian Tallet.

 

Would that package even get us Lind alone? I know he hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire, but he was still their top prospect at one point, although it seems he can't take a walk if his life depended on it. Would the Jays just trade him for an overpaid innings eater and a serviceable reliever? I'd love to have the guy and all that but that seems like a weak offer for Lind's potential.

 

Marquis wouldn't be an overpaid innings eater if we were eating 3m of his contract. A somewhat comparable starter in free agency like Jon Garland is expected to reject arbitration from the Angels because he believes he can get more on the market. Garland could probably get close to 10m in arbitration.

 

Just an idea. It sounds like there are 3 or 4 teams that might be interested in Marquis if the Cubs pick up some of his contract. Maybe that team is one of them. Toronto isn't exactly a hot bed for free agent destinations, and they are known for going cheap. Vernon Wells' contract alone forces them to ignore the top names available.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Toronto has zero payroll to work with right now, and anything they did have would probably be focused toward offense.

[BigbadB]

Toronto has zero payroll to work with right now, and anything they did have would probably be focused toward offense.

 

Toronto should expect a boost without adding any bats. They missed significant time from Vernon Wells, Aaron Hill and Scott Rolen last year.

 

Okay, they shouldn't expect Rolen to play anymore than he did. But, a healthy Wells and Hill makes their offense better.

[RedFlash]

Marquis wouldn't be an overpaid innings eater if we were eating 3m of his contract. A somewhat comparable starter in free agency like Jon Garland is expected to reject arbitration from the Angels because he believes he can get more on the market. Garland could probably get close to 10m in arbitration.

 

Just an idea. It sounds like there are 3 or 4 teams that might be interested in Marquis if the Cubs pick up some of his contract. Maybe that team is one of them. Toronto isn't exactly a hot bed for free agent destinations, and they are known for going cheap. Vernon Wells' contract alone forces them to ignore the top names available.

 

To me, if the Cubs are legitimate when they say they would eat upwars of $4 mill on Marquis contract, then he would be a better fit for a team looking to upgrade the staff without having to overpay grossly for a starter on the FA market. I mean $5 mill for a yr (assume Cubs eat $4 mill)or say Jon Garland at $10 mill? To me, that's a no brainer. Something tells me, Hendry will recent healthy interest in Marquis next week.