Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[BigbadB]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

By taking his gripes to the front office. He can express his disappointment with the organization for having a fire sale when his contract extension was based on the team staying competitive. Peavy acted in good faith to the organization and they crapped all over him.

 

Granted, he can't actually force a trade. But, I would imagine the proper thing to do when you have burned that bridge is to trade the player.

[erik316wttn]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

He could be a total jerk and go to the media and say he refuses to play another game in a Padres uniform, and he will only accept a trade to the Cubs, and force the Padres hand.

[UMFan83]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

He could be a total jerk and go to the media and say he refuses to play another game in a Padres uniform, and he will only accept a trade to the Cubs, and force the Padres hand.

 

I think if he went out in public and said he demands a trade but he can only be traded to the Cubs, the public would side the with the Padres without a doubt. You can't make a ridiculous request (ridiculous being limiting them to one trading partner) and not expect backlash.

[Sever82]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

He could be a total jerk and go to the media and say he refuses to play another game in a Padres uniform, and he will only accept a trade to the Cubs, and force the Padres hand.

 

I think if he went out in public and said he demands a trade but he can only be traded to the Cubs, the public would side the with the Padres without a doubt. You can't make a ridiculous request (ridiculous being limiting them to one trading partner) and not expect backlash.

 

 

I highly doubt that, no way the public sides with the padres, even padres fans, if Peavy demands a trade. You have to look at the situation, Peavy gave the Padres a huge discount on his extension, the padres dangled peavy out there for more than three months. The padres ownership and general manager were openly talking about trading peavy. Peavy is probably the most loved padre in SD, do you honestly think the fans in SD would turn their back on Peavy after he was misled and pull back and forth in trade talks? Come on give me a break, if back in the day when Sosa was loved and the Cubs sucked, the cubs dangled him out there in trade talks for most of the winter and then decided to pull him back in only to have sosa demand a trade. I would no doubt be on Sosa's side because of the treament he got.

 

It would be a different story if Peavy had an attitude problem or if peavy had been open about his dissapointment in how the franchise hasn't gotten better but yet Peavy hasn't done any of that and has been a good sport eventhough he's on one of the worst franchises in the MLB.

[davearm2]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

By taking his gripes to the front office. He can express his disappointment with the organization for having a fire sale when his contract extension was based on the team staying competitive. Peavy acted in good faith to the organization and they crapped all over him.

 

Granted, he can't actually force a trade. But, I would imagine the proper thing to do when you have burned that bridge is to trade the player.

Kinda hard for Peavy to take a "you owe it to me to trade me" stance when he's got a NTC that he's using to tie the Padres' hands.

 

I'm sure if Peavy was willing to waive the NTC then Towers would be more than happy to accomodate him.

[Sever82]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

By taking his gripes to the front office. He can express his disappointment with the organization for having a fire sale when his contract extension was based on the team staying competitive. Peavy acted in good faith to the organization and they crapped all over him.

 

Granted, he can't actually force a trade. But, I would imagine the proper thing to do when you have burned that bridge is to trade the player.

Kinda hard for Peavy to take a "you owe it to me to trade me" stance when he's got a NTC that he's using to tie the Padres' hands.

 

I'm sure if Peavy was willing to waive the NTC then Towers would be more than happy to accomodate him.

 

Not really, peavy can basically tell the padres how he took a discount to remain a padre and was dissapointed that they are not getting better and top of it have messed with his mind with all this trade talk. I think Towers and Ownership would accomodate peavy if he did this and send them to the cubs, especially if the cubs are offering a pretty fair package for him. Eventhough Peavy has a NTC, i dont think towers would turnaround and say well waive it for any team then because i do feel that the relationship between Towers and Peavy is pretty good. I mean Towers has been the only GM peavy has had to deal with and i'm pretty sure Towers respects Peavy for signing the contract that he did

[BigbadB]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

By taking his gripes to the front office. He can express his disappointment with the organization for having a fire sale when his contract extension was based on the team staying competitive. Peavy acted in good faith to the organization and they crapped all over him.

 

Granted, he can't actually force a trade. But, I would imagine the proper thing to do when you have burned that bridge is to trade the player.

Kinda hard for Peavy to take a "you owe it to me to trade me" stance when he's got a NTC that he's using to tie the Padres' hands.

 

I'm sure if Peavy was willing to waive the NTC then Towers would be more than happy to accomodate him.

 

I would agree with you, except for the fact the Padres gave him that NTC. By trying to trade him when they know full well that he has an NTC, they've basically burned that bridge, not Peavy.

 

Would Peavy have given the Padres that very fair extension if he knew that less than 12 months later, they were going to have a fire sale? If I was a betting man, somewhere in the extension negotiations, Peavy and his agent made it clear that the contract extension signed was based on the team staying competitive.

 

Peavy has honored his end of the deal and the Padres have not.

[UMFan83]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

He could be a total jerk and go to the media and say he refuses to play another game in a Padres uniform, and he will only accept a trade to the Cubs, and force the Padres hand.

 

I think if he went out in public and said he demands a trade but he can only be traded to the Cubs, the public would side the with the Padres without a doubt. You can't make a ridiculous request (ridiculous being limiting them to one trading partner) and not expect backlash.

 

 

I highly doubt that, no way the public sides with the padres, even padres fans, if Peavy demands a trade. You have to look at the situation, Peavy gave the Padres a huge discount on his extension, the padres dangled peavy out there for more than three months. The padres ownership and general manager were openly talking about trading peavy. Peavy is probably the most loved padre in SD, do you honestly think the fans in SD would turn their back on Peavy after he was misled and pull back and forth in trade talks? Come on give me a break, if back in the day when Sosa was loved and the Cubs sucked, the cubs dangled him out there in trade talks for most of the winter and then decided to pull him back in only to have sosa demand a trade. I would no doubt be on Sosa's side because of the treament he got.

 

It would be a different story if Peavy had an attitude problem or if peavy had been open about his dissapointment in how the franchise hasn't gotten better but yet Peavy hasn't done any of that and has been a good sport eventhough he's on one of the worst franchises in the MLB.

 

So you think the Padres fans would side with Peavy even after he embezzles their favorite team out of any sort of leverage to get a decent return, thus ruining your biggest trade chip?

[Sever82]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

He could be a total jerk and go to the media and say he refuses to play another game in a Padres uniform, and he will only accept a trade to the Cubs, and force the Padres hand.

 

I think if he went out in public and said he demands a trade but he can only be traded to the Cubs, the public would side the with the Padres without a doubt. You can't make a ridiculous request (ridiculous being limiting them to one trading partner) and not expect backlash.

 

 

I highly doubt that, no way the public sides with the padres, even padres fans, if Peavy demands a trade. You have to look at the situation, Peavy gave the Padres a huge discount on his extension, the padres dangled peavy out there for more than three months. The padres ownership and general manager were openly talking about trading peavy. Peavy is probably the most loved padre in SD, do you honestly think the fans in SD would turn their back on Peavy after he was misled and pull back and forth in trade talks? Come on give me a break, if back in the day when Sosa was loved and the Cubs sucked, the cubs dangled him out there in trade talks for most of the winter and then decided to pull him back in only to have sosa demand a trade. I would no doubt be on Sosa's side because of the treament he got.

 

It would be a different story if Peavy had an attitude problem or if peavy had been open about his dissapointment in how the franchise hasn't gotten better but yet Peavy hasn't done any of that and has been a good sport eventhough he's on one of the worst franchises in the MLB.

 

So you think the Padres fans would side with Peavy even after he embezzles their favorite team out of any sort of leverage to get a decent return, thus ruining your biggest trade chip?

 

How in the world is he going to embezzle them from getting a decent return? Its not like he would go to the Padres and Say, trade me to the cubs for Marshall straight up. The Package the cubs would offer wont be overpaying but will probably be fair. You act as if getting Vitters and prospects is a garbage package. The Fans wont turn against Peavy because as it mentioned above, the padres gave peavy the NTC and you make it sound as if peavy is telling the padres who gets traded for him.

[davearm2]

So you think the Padres fans would side with Peavy even after he embezzles their favorite team out of any sort of leverage to get a decent return, thus ruining your biggest trade chip?

Embezzles?

 

You mean extorts?

[UMFan83]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

He could be a total jerk and go to the media and say he refuses to play another game in a Padres uniform, and he will only accept a trade to the Cubs, and force the Padres hand.

 

I think if he went out in public and said he demands a trade but he can only be traded to the Cubs, the public would side the with the Padres without a doubt. You can't make a ridiculous request (ridiculous being limiting them to one trading partner) and not expect backlash.

 

 

I highly doubt that, no way the public sides with the padres, even padres fans, if Peavy demands a trade. You have to look at the situation, Peavy gave the Padres a huge discount on his extension, the padres dangled peavy out there for more than three months. The padres ownership and general manager were openly talking about trading peavy. Peavy is probably the most loved padre in SD, do you honestly think the fans in SD would turn their back on Peavy after he was misled and pull back and forth in trade talks? Come on give me a break, if back in the day when Sosa was loved and the Cubs sucked, the cubs dangled him out there in trade talks for most of the winter and then decided to pull him back in only to have sosa demand a trade. I would no doubt be on Sosa's side because of the treament he got.

 

It would be a different story if Peavy had an attitude problem or if peavy had been open about his dissapointment in how the franchise hasn't gotten better but yet Peavy hasn't done any of that and has been a good sport eventhough he's on one of the worst franchises in the MLB.

 

So you think the Padres fans would side with Peavy even after he embezzles their favorite team out of any sort of leverage to get a decent return, thus ruining your biggest trade chip?

 

How in the world is he going to embezzle them from getting a decent return? Its not like he would go to the Padres and Say, trade me to the cubs for Marshall straight up. The Package the cubs would offer wont be overpaying but will probably be fair. You act as if getting Vitters and prospects is a garbage package. The Fans wont turn against Peavy because as it mentioned above, the padres gave peavy the NTC and you make it sound as if peavy is telling the padres who gets traded for him.

 

You're not going to get any sort of fair value for a player of Peavy's caliber if you only have 1 team that you *have* to trade him to. Peavy would be forcing the Padres to trade him for less than he'd be worth on the open market. So why wouldn't fans be mad when Peavy screws his former team into getting much less than he's worth?

[UMFan83]

So you think the Padres fans would side with Peavy even after he embezzles their favorite team out of any sort of leverage to get a decent return, thus ruining your biggest trade chip?

Embezzles?

 

You mean extorts?

 

Yeah yeah, my brain isnt working today.

[Sever82]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

He could be a total jerk and go to the media and say he refuses to play another game in a Padres uniform, and he will only accept a trade to the Cubs, and force the Padres hand.

 

I think if he went out in public and said he demands a trade but he can only be traded to the Cubs, the public would side the with the Padres without a doubt. You can't make a ridiculous request (ridiculous being limiting them to one trading partner) and not expect backlash.

 

 

I highly doubt that, no way the public sides with the padres, even padres fans, if Peavy demands a trade. You have to look at the situation, Peavy gave the Padres a huge discount on his extension, the padres dangled peavy out there for more than three months. The padres ownership and general manager were openly talking about trading peavy. Peavy is probably the most loved padre in SD, do you honestly think the fans in SD would turn their back on Peavy after he was misled and pull back and forth in trade talks? Come on give me a break, if back in the day when Sosa was loved and the Cubs sucked, the cubs dangled him out there in trade talks for most of the winter and then decided to pull him back in only to have sosa demand a trade. I would no doubt be on Sosa's side because of the treament he got.

 

It would be a different story if Peavy had an attitude problem or if peavy had been open about his dissapointment in how the franchise hasn't gotten better but yet Peavy hasn't done any of that and has been a good sport eventhough he's on one of the worst franchises in the MLB.

 

So you think the Padres fans would side with Peavy even after he embezzles their favorite team out of any sort of leverage to get a decent return, thus ruining your biggest trade chip?

 

How in the world is he going to embezzle them from getting a decent return? Its not like he would go to the Padres and Say, trade me to the cubs for Marshall straight up. The Package the cubs would offer wont be overpaying but will probably be fair. You act as if getting Vitters and prospects is a garbage package. The Fans wont turn against Peavy because as it mentioned above, the padres gave peavy the NTC and you make it sound as if peavy is telling the padres who gets traded for him.

 

You're not going to get any sort of fair value for a player of Peavy's caliber if you only have 1 team that you *have* to trade him to. Peavy would be forcing the Padres to trade him for less than he'd be worth on the open market. So why wouldn't fans be mad when Peavy screws his former team into getting much less than he's worth?

 

Your still making it seem like the Cubs are offerring garbage for him. I mean yeah, maybe they would get a better package out there if any team could bid on him but it wouldn't be "Much Less." I just read on Keith Law's chat some yankeed fan asking Keith if it would be a good idea for the "Yankees" to trade Cabrera for Peavy straight up seeing as Peavy has injury risk. I hope you're not one of those types that will compare a cubs package to a media overhyped package from the red sox or Yankees. I mean because according to ESPN and major media outlets, Hughes is one of the top prospects in the MLB and so is Bucholz.

 

But back to the Peavy trade, so you dont feel a package of Vitters, two of the three Indian Prospects, Cedeno, Pie (or Olson) and Hart (Or Guzman) is a fair package for Peavy?

[nilodnayr]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-08-mitchelljan08,0,1130535.column

 

Nothing new but just some quotes from Axelrod, Moorad and Towers. Basicallty to sum up the article, the peavy trade seems possible but will depend heavily on the ownership situations on both franchises. Axelrod gives Hendry plenty of compliments and just notes that hendry is the type of GM that makes things work. Towers sounded like he wasn't sure if the new SD owner group would keep peavy or not. So its starting to look in my opinion that the peavy situation depends more on who the new owner of the padres is than who the new owner of the cubs is.

 

I think this really comes down to Peavy. The Padres dangled him and I think he officially wants out. Peavy's contract extension was based on the Padres staying competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if Peavy forces the trade to the Cubs.

 

I've held firm all offseason that this deal will happen. I'm also expecting it to happen sooner now than later. Both teams still have work to do if Peavy isn't going anywhere, and less and less players will be available to either team the longer this deal takes.

 

How would he do that?

 

By taking his gripes to the front office. He can express his disappointment with the organization for having a fire sale when his contract extension was based on the team staying competitive. Peavy acted in good faith to the organization and they crapped all over him.

 

Granted, he can't actually force a trade. But, I would imagine the proper thing to do when you have burned that bridge is to trade the player.

Kinda hard for Peavy to take a "you owe it to me to trade me" stance when he's got a NTC that he's using to tie the Padres' hands.

 

I'm sure if Peavy was willing to waive the NTC then Towers would be more than happy to accomodate him.

 

I would agree with you, except for the fact the Padres gave him that NTC. By trying to trade him when they know full well that he has an NTC, they've basically burned that bridge, not Peavy.

 

Would Peavy have given the Padres that very fair extension if he knew that less than 12 months later, they were going to have a fire sale? If I was a betting man, somewhere in the extension negotiations, Peavy and his agent made it clear that the contract extension signed was based on the team staying competitive.

 

Peavy has honored his end of the deal and the Padres have not.

 

From reading comments on DePo's blog and general sentiment, it seems as though fans are really on Peavy's side. I've read exactly what BBB said over and over and over. They are more angry with the Padres for blowing it all up and simpathize with Peavy who took a hometown discount and wanted to win a championship with the Padres. And considering the way the whole situation has been handled this offseason, its just exacerbated the fans annoyance/anger with the Padres org.

[wade]

Hendry probably wouldn't even offer a garbage package for Peavy even if he knew the Pads would have to take it. GMs usually try to keep things fair in case they ever want to trade again.

[BigbadB]

Hendry probably wouldn't even offer a garbage package for Peavy even if he knew the Pads would have to take it. GMs usually try to keep things fair in case they ever want to trade again.

 

In a perfect world, we trade Joey Gathright, Aaron Miles, Kevin Gregg, Paul Bako, Luis Vizcaino, and the trio of minor leaguers we got for DeRosa for Peavy. :D

[apete6]

Hendry probably wouldn't even offer a garbage package for Peavy even if he knew the Pads would have to take it. GMs usually try to keep things fair in case they ever want to trade again.

 

In a perfect world, we trade Joey Gathright, Aaron Miles, Kevin Gregg, Paul Bako, Luis Vizcaino, and the trio of minor leaguers we got for DeRosa for Peavy. :D

 

OK, OK, if they really call our bluff, we'll throw in Cedeno.

[Blue W]

Does Smoltz going to the Sox make Peavy an attractive target for the Braves again? You have to believe that they thought he would come back to them.

[Sever82]

I highly doubt they were depending on Smoltz to come back. I'm pretty sure they felt they couldn't count on him and were working under the impression that he wouldn't pitch for them. Plus even Towers has said that he even doubt Peavy would clear a trade to the Braves

[UMFan83]

Does Smoltz going to the Sox make Peavy an attractive target for the Braves again? You have to believe that they thought he would come back to them.

 

I read they were looking into signing Lowe

[The Other 15]

I don't understand why people are having a hard time believing that a very expensive disgruntled star player can be traded for below perceived market value.

 

The new ownership, and any other detail that people might believe will change Towers' will to trade him does not account that Peavy want to be traded. He does own the NTC, therefore, he does have a lot of control. If it's true that the Cubs are really his only choice, it really isn't that hard to see a trade happening if the Cubs can afford him.

 

What should GM's take from this? Well, if you can't outright collude on money, you certainly could collude on contract perks like NTC which hurt the team more than they help.

[mikeyt34]

Obtaining Peavy has become quite the off-season obsession, but hopefully everyone won't be too disappointed if it doesn't happen. The Cubs still have the best starting rotation (when healthy) in the NL without Peavy, so let's keep it in perspective. Some rotation depth could be added by Hendry, but some of the names still available come with a fairly high price tag for a 5th starter role. The Cubs may end up using a 5th starter by committee approach until someone steps up into the role, my bet it's Marshall. Some teams don't even know who their 3rd starter will be, let alone worrying about filling their 5th spot, so once again, keep it in perspective.

[RedFlash]

Does Smoltz going to the Sox make Peavy an attractive target for the Braves again? You have to believe that they thought he would come back to them.

 

I read they were looking into signing Lowe

 

That, and didn't the Peavy to the Braves didn't work out because the Braves would not guarantee a new no trade clause? At this point, the Braves are out of it for Peavy, and it wouldn't surprise me if they do sign Derek Lowe.

[wade]

I don't understand why people are having a hard time believing that a very expensive disgruntled star player can be traded for below perceived market value.

 

The new ownership, and any other detail that people might believe will change Towers' will to trade him does not account that Peavy want to be traded. He does own the NTC, therefore, he does have a lot of control. If it's true that the Cubs are really his only choice, it really isn't that hard to see a trade happening if the Cubs can afford him.

 

What should GM's take from this? Well, if you can't outright collude on money, you certainly could collude on contract perks like NTC which hurt the team more than they help.

 

There are instances where the talent given up is less if the club takes on a big salary, like what would make sense here. Still, I believe GMs still don't go totally taking advantage of said situation because they want to be seen as accomodating to other GMs for trades down the road.

 

I think the trade could still happen, but the Cubs probably won't just make the Pads take crap just because the Pads' backs are against the wall.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I really don't mind Marshall or Samardzija in the fifth spot.

 

I think the disappointing part of the offseason is realizing that the 97-win team was pretty much doomed to take a step back.