College Football - Week of 11/8

[cubweiser03]

Petrino or Saban whose it gonna be.....

 

Mike Leach. Dude comes back to the SEC brings in Tony Franklin(they coached together at UK) and they really run the Airraid offense and whoop up on Auburn, that would be awesome. I gotta believe the D at Tech is more a product of the recruiting than it is of the coaching. He'll definetly get better players at UT on the defense side of the ball. I have a hard time imagining Tech can come anywhere close to the salary of UT. Hell they just bought out Fullmer for $6M.

 

That's what I'm thinking. I doubt we'd go as high as Saban's Bama contract, but cost is not a real big concern for the university right now. The economy may be down, but I haven't heard that our bigger donors are struggling and the SEC just signed that mega-monster deal with ESPN and each school is getting quite the hefty chunk of it.

 

Unless he just doesn't want the challenge (which I sincerely doubt), I see no way Leach turns down an offer from Tennessee - if they offer.

 

They dont have to go that stupid high for him, even though they could afford it. Bama needed to do it to pry him away from an NFL salary. Leach makes $1.75M. Tressel and Rodriguez both make around $2.5M, i could see something similar to that.

[dew1679666265]

Petrino or Saban whose it gonna be.....

 

Mike Leach. Dude comes back to the SEC brings in Tony Franklin(they coached together at UK) and they really run the Airraid offense and whoop up on Auburn, that would be awesome. I gotta believe the D at Tech is more a product of the recruiting than it is of the coaching. He'll definetly get better players at UT on the defense side of the ball. I have a hard time imagining Tech can come anywhere close to the salary of UT. Hell they just bought out Fullmer for $6M.

 

That's what I'm thinking. I doubt we'd go as high as Saban's Bama contract, but cost is not a real big concern for the university right now. The economy may be down, but I haven't heard that our bigger donors are struggling and the SEC just signed that mega-monster deal with ESPN and each school is getting quite the hefty chunk of it.

 

Unless he just doesn't want the challenge (which I sincerely doubt), I see no way Leach turns down an offer from Tennessee - if they offer.

 

They dont have to go that stupid high for him, even though they could afford it. Bama needed to do it to pry him away from an NFL salary. Leach makes $1.75M. Tressel and Rodriguez both make around $2.5M, i could see something similar to that.

 

Yeah, I figured the new coach will get in the area of $2.5-3 million, which is roughly middle of the pack to slightly upper level SEC pay.

 

Seems about right for a new hire.

[SouthSideRyan]

Mike Leach and Butch Davis won't go to Tennessee because they're afraid of Sylvester Croom.

 

Yeah and the Big XII is like the MAC when it comes to challenges. He should actually welcome going to the SEC.

 

At least he'd be on somewhat more level ground with the rest of the major teams.

 

Eh?

[dew1679666265]

Mike Leach and Butch Davis won't go to Tennessee because they're afraid of Sylvester Croom.

 

Yeah and the Big XII is like the MAC when it comes to challenges. He should actually welcome going to the SEC.

 

At least he'd be on somewhat more level ground with the rest of the major teams.

 

Eh?

 

I'm talking historically.

 

Unless both teams make a dramatic shift on a highly consistent basis (doubtful), Texas Tech won't always be one of, if not, the best teams in the Big XII and Tennessee will not be one of the worst teams in the SEC.

 

This year Tech is closer to the top of their conference than is Tennessee, but historically it's been the opposite.

[Mephistopheles]

Another possibility will be Gary Patterson. His alma mater is K State, and they'll be calling. I think Art Briles would be a good fit, not sure he'd be willing to leave after one year Edited November 4, 2008 by Mephistopheles

[Mephistopheles]

Texas Tech can win five national titles in a row and still be the third college in Texas for football.

[dew1679666265]

Texas Tech can win five national titles in a row and still be the third college in Texas for football.

 

Exactly. And Tennessee is still regarded as one of the better SEC teams historically (though we're beginning to be in danger of losing that).

 

Leach is fighting an uphill battle to make Tech this good consistently, while Tennessee has already been established as one of the top SEC teams. It's just a matter of reclaiming it here.

[Mephistopheles]

That being said, I don't think Leach will care about that much.

[dew1679666265]

Another possibility will be Gary Patterson. His alma mater is K State, and they'll be calling. I think Art Briles would be a good fit, not sure he'd be willing to leave after one year

 

Patterson's one of the coaches I'm more interested in (on my top 10 list). He wouldn't be a real exciting hire (could be a drawback in this situation), but I think he could be a solid one.

 

Why do you think Briles would be a good fit, out of curiosity? I'm assuming you're talking about Tennessee still, and don't necessarily disagree, I'd just like to know why. He doesn't have a real long track record - or at least I'm not familiar enough with him.

[dew1679666265]

That being said, I don't think Leach will care about that much.

 

Level of competition wouldn't be a negative, though.

[Mephistopheles]

Why do you think Briles would be a good fit, out of curiosity? I'm assuming you're talking about Tennessee still, and don't necessarily disagree, I'd just like to know why. He doesn't have a real long track record - or at least I'm not familiar enough with him.

 

He's payed his dues. He's been the brain child coach of the Texas football coaching scene for awhile. He took a high school football team that didn't make the playoffs in 37 years before him to making it all ten years he was there with four or five state titles. He then went and worked under, guess who, Mike Leach. Briles is one of the better spread gurus out there, fits well with what's "it" in college football today. His spread is very similar to Leach's obviously, but he taught the importance of running backs in the spread to Leach, despite being a bit of a QB guru himself. He's more or less the Father of the Spread in the state.

 

The big question is what direction the program wants to go towards. NFL pro style or college spread style. There are guys out there that fit both.

[Hosak8]

And for the record, I’ve just received a tip that one of Tennessee’s largest boosters spent the day golfing with former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher. I think I’ll take that one with a pretty big grain of salt. But heck, this is the internet… so I’ll throw it out there to see how many messageboards pick it up.

 

That's a heck of a rumor . . . :-))

 

From MrSEC.com - a very good website for those who are interested in the goings on around the SEC.

 

For the record, John Pennington is an imbecile. Maybe Cowher would have interest (and yes, I've heard the rumors since the day he left Pittsburgh), but Pennington is still an asshat of epic proportions.

[dew1679666265]

And for the record, I’ve just received a tip that one of Tennessee’s largest boosters spent the day golfing with former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher. I think I’ll take that one with a pretty big grain of salt. But heck, this is the internet… so I’ll throw it out there to see how many messageboards pick it up.

 

That's a heck of a rumor . . . :-))

 

From MrSEC.com - a very good website for those who are interested in the goings on around the SEC.

 

For the record, John Pennington is an imbecile. Maybe Cowher would have interest (and yes, I've heard the rumors since the day he left Pittsburgh), but Pennington is still an asshat of epic proportions.

 

I don't take too much of what I hear from him seriously, but I enjoy his humor at times and don't mind him on the radio. Most of the info I take seriously comes from Jimmy Hyams, who I've found to be pretty reliable.

 

That said, I'm quite sure Pennington was joking here. It was inserted at the end of an article on the website and he made it pretty clear he didn't put much stock into it.

[dew1679666265]

Why do you think Briles would be a good fit, out of curiosity? I'm assuming you're talking about Tennessee still, and don't necessarily disagree, I'd just like to know why. He doesn't have a real long track record - or at least I'm not familiar enough with him.

 

He's payed his dues. He's been the brain child coach of the Texas football coaching scene for awhile. He took a high school football team that didn't make the playoffs in 37 years before him to making it all ten years he was there with four or five state titles. He then went and worked under, guess who, Mike Leach. Briles is one of the better spread gurus out there, fits well with what's "it" in college football today. His spread is very similar to Leach's obviously, but he taught the importance of running backs in the spread to Leach, despite being a bit of a QB guru himself. He's more or less the Father of the Spread in the state.

 

The big question is what direction the program wants to go towards. NFL pro style or college spread style. There are guys out there that fit both.

 

Truly, that is the question of the offseason. I honestly have no idea which style coach Mike Hamilton (UT AD) is looking for, though with the hiring of Bruce Pearl he's shown he's not against innovative, modern type offenses.

 

I don't have a strong preference which style we shoot for. I'm not one who thinks you can only win with a spread or that the spread is a gimmicky fad that will go away with time. If coached up and run properly, either a pro style or a spread can work fine.

[Mephistopheles]

Kyle Farnsworth's jealous.

 

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/texgator2006/morenohit.gif

[snoodmonger]

Kyle Farnsworth's jealous.

 

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/texgator2006/morenohit.gif

 

 

nasty hit. we're they penalized for celebrating on his corpse like that?

[snoodmonger]

Another possibility will be Gary Patterson. His alma mater is K State, and they'll be calling. I think Art Briles would be a good fit, not sure he'd be willing to leave after one year

 

 

There's talk with the disarray that K State's AD is in, they won't be prepared to make a move on Prince this season. They can't leave him at the controls for much longer, though. He's decimating the KSU relationship with the Kansas High School football scene (which, while hardly the most fertile grounds, is an important part of KUs and KSUs health), and another recruiting class made up by tons of JUCOs could really put that program behind the 8-ball.

 

Part of me thinks it's funny because it's KSU, but man, it's scary to see how far they dropped. It's partly Snyder's fault. He kind of gave up towards the end. But Prince has really run that program into the ground.

[Guest]

So if UCLA has any hope of going to a bowl this season, they'd have to pull off an upset against the Beavers this weekend. They have to win 3 of their last 4 games and they have Oregon State in Pasadena, then U-Dub in Seattle (I'll cry if they lose), ASU in Tempe and USC in Pasadena. 1-3 seems much more likely.

[Magnetic Curses]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQK_Vz9JH_g

 

here's hardeman's hit from last week's iowa/illinois game. you be the judge on how bad the officiating has gotten, even in a home game for the illini.

 

it was either the wrong call or a call that could eventually lead tackle to be reduced to two-hand touch. i hope the big ten reviews the call and reacts accordingly. i'm not calling for the heads of the crew, but i'd like to never ever see a call like this ever again.

 

it was not helmet-to-helmet and who the hell knows what a ref's interpretation of defenseless is? 2 refs threw flags, 2 of them! how can you call that hit a penalty? that's football, you idiots.

 

it makes me so mad to watch that crap.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQK_Vz9JH_g

 

here's hardeman's hit from last week's iowa/illinois game. you be the judge on how bad the officiating has gotten, even in a home game for the illini.

 

it was either the wrong call or a call that could eventually lead tackle to be reduced to two-hand touch. i hope the big ten reviews the call and reacts accordingly. i'm not calling for the heads of the crew, but i'd like to never ever see a call like this ever again.

 

it was not helmet-to-helmet and who the hell knows what a ref's interpretation of defenseless is? 2 refs threw flags, 2 of them! how can you call that hit a penalty? that's football, you idiots.

 

it makes me so mad to watch that crap.

 

Not disagreeing, just trying to clarify.

 

From the looks of that replay, especially the back angle with a guy cutting across the field of vision as it happened, I can see why a ref thought it was helmet-to helmet. It wasn't, but it was kinda close and the motion was the same as if it had been.

 

The other thing is, what is the actual wording on that rule? I've understood it that you can't lower your shoulder on a guy who's defenseless, which I take to mean is in the process of making a play on the ball.

[Mephistopheles]

Kyle Farnsworth's jealous.

 

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/texgator2006/morenohit.gif

 

 

nasty hit. we're they penalized for celebrating on his corpse like that?

 

No, it was second play from scrimmage and Moreno's first carry after thrashing them for 188 yards last year. In spring and summer workouts the defensive players did 188 push ups and stuff to remember. He finished with 17 carries for 65.

[Mephistopheles]

Jacques Rickerson was kicked off the Florida Gators today. Rickerson came into the season as the nickel corner behind Wandy Pierre-Louis and Joe Haden. He was displaced to fourth went Pierre-Louis lost his job to freshman Janoris Jenkins. He was arrested this morning, charged with two felonies.

 

 

GAINESVILLE -- University of Florida reserve cornerback Jacques Rickerson was arrested Tuesday at 7:15 a.m. and charged with two felonies, including domestic battery by strangulation, according to Alachua County jail records.

 

According to a public record, Rickerson allegedly attacked a woman about 3:15 a.m. at her Gainesville residence and ``intentionally and unlawfully struck the victim on the side of her face and used his hand to choke her around her throat.''

 

Rickerson, 20, and the victim had been dating for more than a year, the police report said. The alleged incident occurred in the victim's bedroom, according to police.

 

The report states that Rickerson allegedly pushed the victim ''further into the mattress of the bed and grabbed a pillow using it to cover her face'' when the victim ``attempted to scream for help.''

 

The report indicates that the victim told police she was ``unable to breathe while [Rickerson] had a grip on her throat and the pillow was covering her face.''

 

According to the report, Rickerson released the victim but then allegedly prevented her from leaving the bedroom ''several times'' by ``blocking the door leading out of the room.''

 

According to the report, Rickerson ``grabbed the victim's cellphone when she indicated she was going to call the police and would not return it or allow her to complete a call to the authorities.''

 

Rickerson was also charged with hindering, delaying or preventing communication to law enforcement, which is a felony. According to the report, ``the victim sustained visible injuries to her arm, neck and upper chest.''

 

Rickerson, a redshirt sophomore from St. Augustine, has 10 tackles this season and one interception.

 

Rickerson left the victim's residence Tuesday morning and was later arrested at the University of Florida Campus Keys Complex, according to the report.

 

''Jacques Rickerson is no longer part of our team -- that is not what our program is about. My focus and our team's focus is with the players who are part of the program and preparing for the Vanderbilt game,'' said Gators coach Urban Meyer.

 

Rickerson is being held at the Alachua County jail and his bond has not been set.

[hawkeyecub]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQK_Vz9JH_g

 

here's hardeman's hit from last week's iowa/illinois game. you be the judge on how bad the officiating has gotten, even in a home game for the illini.

 

it was either the wrong call or a call that could eventually lead tackle to be reduced to two-hand touch. i hope the big ten reviews the call and reacts accordingly. i'm not calling for the heads of the crew, but i'd like to never ever see a call like this ever again.

 

it was not helmet-to-helmet and who the hell knows what a ref's interpretation of defenseless is? 2 refs threw flags, 2 of them! how can you call that hit a penalty? that's football, you idiots.

 

it makes me so mad to watch that crap.

 

It was a bad call and not the first one this year. Hell just in Iowa's games they've benefited from 2 others and had 2 bad ones called against them.

[manbearcub]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQK_Vz9JH_g

 

here's hardeman's hit from last week's iowa/illinois game. you be the judge on how bad the officiating has gotten, even in a home game for the illini.

 

it was either the wrong call or a call that could eventually lead tackle to be reduced to two-hand touch. i hope the big ten reviews the call and reacts accordingly. i'm not calling for the heads of the crew, but i'd like to never ever see a call like this ever again.

 

it was not helmet-to-helmet and who the hell knows what a ref's interpretation of defenseless is? 2 refs threw flags, 2 of them! how can you call that hit a penalty? that's football, you idiots.

 

it makes me so mad to watch that crap.

you are annoying.

[shnsajax]

And for the record, I’ve just received a tip that one of Tennessee’s largest boosters spent the day golfing with former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher. I think I’ll take that one with a pretty big grain of salt. But heck, this is the internet… so I’ll throw it out there to see how many messageboards pick it up.

 

That's a heck of a rumor . . . :-))

 

From MrSEC.com - a very good website for those who are interested in the goings on around the SEC.

 

For the record, John Pennington is an imbecile. Maybe Cowher would have interest (and yes, I've heard the rumors since the day he left Pittsburgh), but Pennington is still an asshat of epic proportions.

 

Cutcliffe and Spurrier are off the Tennessee list.

 

Damn and $6million for the buyout as well.

Fulmer confirmed Monday at a tension-filled news conference at Neyland Stadium that he would not return next season -- and made it clear that it wasn't his decision to step aside after 17 seasons at his alma mater. He will be paid a $6 million buyout.

 

"He's probably 16, 17 years there, probably long enough. It wasn't working very well, so I think everybody understands when it starts going bad, they've gotta make changes," Spurrier told The State.

 

"But congratulate him on hitting that lottery ticket. That's a big ticket he got," Spurrier said, adding, "I don't know whether to feel sorry for coach or congratulate him for the biggest buyout in the history of college football. He got the best deal ever, I think."