Blow the chokers out of town

[big_shooter17]

I realize that a 5 game playoff is a crapshoot. This said, the inability to win 1 game shouldn't be. You can run into a team or two that beats you in 5 games, but I don't think that I can believe that 6 straight losses is a case of unfortunate events. It has to do with a manager who cannot focus a baseball team when it matters most.

[erik316wttn]

I realize that a 5 game playoff is a crapshoot. This said, the inability to win 1 game shouldn't be. You can run into a team or two that beats you in 5 games, but I don't think that I can believe that 6 straight losses is a case of unfortunate events. It has to do with a manager who cannot focus a baseball team when it matters most.

 

I would have been more ok with it had the Dodgers simply beaten them in hard-fough, close games in 5. However, the Cubs handed them 2 games on a silver platter, then pressed so hard in Game 3 that as soon as Harden gave up those 2 runs in the first, I changed the channel because I knew it was over.

 

Really, I'm not all that pissed, though. I've come to expect this from the Cubs.

[C.C.]

Really, I'm not all that pissed, though. I've come to expect this from the Cubs.

 

 

Sure, but they always find new ways to shock me. It's like a endless supply of suckage.

 

“I must say I didn’t have all my stuff today,” Kuroda said through a translator.

 

turn the screw a little more...

[Bote McBoteface]

This thread is stupid.

[C.C.]

This team is stupid

[imb]

Wow, I can't imagine what you people are like when things don't go your way in real life. this is embarrassing.

[C.C.]

Wow, I can't imagine what you people are like when things don't go your way in real life. this is embarrassing.

 

Pretty much sums up our post season success.

[cubsfan1947]

Maybe they became fans as an escape from the fact that things weren't going well in real life.

[Tarver]

this thread is a joke. let's focus on ideas getting the roster better going forward.

[C.C.]

this thread is a joke. let's focus on ideas getting the roster better going forward.

 

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51576

[Tarver]

this thread is a joke. let's focus on ideas getting the roster better going forward.

 

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51576

 

ok, see my post in that thread and let's read your ideas.

[Derwood]

i'm glad we have this thread. good to keep all the overreaction in one place

[BigbadB]

I'm trying to understand why everyone thinks the Cubs have a chance to get Rafael Furcal this offseason.

 

Did anyone happen to see what the Dodgers were throwing out there at SS when Furcal was actually hurt? Nomar, Angel Berroa and an assortment of other trash.

 

The Dodgers are a big market team that is going farther into the playoffs than the Cubs. If there is one player that team will do everything in its power to keep this offseason, it's Rafael Furcal.

 

The Dodgers might be willing to trade Andruw Jones or Juan Pierre to the Cubs if the Cubs want some Dodger players this offseason.

[Shilzzz]

why are we blowing them, exactly? i thought the term was to run (x) out of town.

[C.C.]

I'm trying to understand why everyone thinks the Cubs have a chance to get Rafael Furcal this offseason.

 

Did anyone happen to see what the Dodgers were throwing out there at SS when Furcal was actually hurt? Nomar, Angel Berroa and an assortment of other trash.

 

The Dodgers are a big market team that is going farther into the playoffs than the Cubs. If there is one player that team will do everything in its power to keep this offseason, it's Rafael Furcal.

 

The Dodgers might be willing to trade Andruw Jones or Juan Pierre to the Cubs if the Cubs want some Dodger players this offseason.

 

Can they sign both Manny and Furcal? My guess it's going to be either or and my guess is Manny is more important then Furcal.

[Guest]

I'm trying to understand why everyone thinks the Cubs have a chance to get Rafael Furcal this offseason.

 

Did anyone happen to see what the Dodgers were throwing out there at SS when Furcal was actually hurt? Nomar, Angel Berroa and an assortment of other trash.

 

The Dodgers are a big market team that is going farther into the playoffs than the Cubs. If there is one player that team will do everything in its power to keep this offseason, it's Rafael Furcal.

 

The Dodgers might be willing to trade Andruw Jones or Juan Pierre to the Cubs if the Cubs want some Dodger players this offseason.

 

Frank McCourt is a cheapskate of the highest order.

[BigbadB]

I'm trying to understand why everyone thinks the Cubs have a chance to get Rafael Furcal this offseason.

 

Did anyone happen to see what the Dodgers were throwing out there at SS when Furcal was actually hurt? Nomar, Angel Berroa and an assortment of other trash.

 

The Dodgers are a big market team that is going farther into the playoffs than the Cubs. If there is one player that team will do everything in its power to keep this offseason, it's Rafael Furcal.

 

The Dodgers might be willing to trade Andruw Jones or Juan Pierre to the Cubs if the Cubs want some Dodger players this offseason.

 

Can they sign both Manny and Furcal? My guess it's going to be either or and my guess is Manny is more important then Furcal.

 

Since they are getting lots of extra playoff revenue (thanks to the Cubs), I predict they sign both of them. They can probably get Manny for a 1 or 2 year deal. After that (and possibly before that), Manny will be nothing more than a DH if he wants to drag out his career any further.

 

Furcal has been a very good player for the Dodgers. And they have NOTHING even remotely close to being good as a back up. Hu is nothing more than a defensive wizard who cannot hit.

 

They have money coming off the books and Andruw Jones only has one year left on his contract. Jeff Kent won't be back. Between Kent's contract and the insurance money the Dodgers SHOULD receive for Jason Schmidt, they can afford Manny's salary in 2009, and they were already paying for Furcal, so I don't see it as being a problem for them.

[Cynosure]

You guys really think they have a shot at Manny? LOL!

[C.C.]

You guys really think they have a shot at Manny? LOL!

 

Who's saying that?

[Cynosure]

You guys really think they have a shot at Manny? LOL!

 

Who's saying that?

 

I don't know I tried to read the last couple pages and I saw a lot of Manny chatter... I think I might still be a bit drunk from last night... back to bed with me :bye:

[BigbadB]

Frank McCourt is a cheapskate of the highest order.

 

I agree that he was a cheapskate when he first bought the team, but that's because the purchase of the team was a tremendous burden. He has since shown that he is willing to spend some money. They overspent for Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre, and they signed Hiroki Kuroda, Furcal and Jason Schmidt, then also traded for Manny (not sure how much LA was on the hook for with that deal).

 

The investments have been rather curious, but he has started to spend.

[C.C.]

Frank McCourt is a cheapskate of the highest order.

 

I agree that he was a cheapskate when he first bought the team, but that's because the purchase of the team was a tremendous burden. He has since shown that he is willing to spend some money. They overspent for Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre, and they signed Hiroki Kuroda, Furcal and Jason Schmidt, then also traded for Manny (not sure how much LA was on the hook for with that deal).

 

The investments have been rather curious, but he has started to spend.

 

I just don't see them keeping both. I really don't.

[BigbadB]

Frank McCourt is a cheapskate of the highest order.

 

I agree that he was a cheapskate when he first bought the team, but that's because the purchase of the team was a tremendous burden. He has since shown that he is willing to spend some money. They overspent for Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre, and they signed Hiroki Kuroda, Furcal and Jason Schmidt, then also traded for Manny (not sure how much LA was on the hook for with that deal).

 

The investments have been rather curious, but he has started to spend.

 

I just don't see them keeping both. I really don't.

 

The Dodgers are not the Padres or Devil Rays. They are a HUGE market team competing against another team in their market. If they want both of those players back, they have the capability to do just that.

 

And honestly, if they were going to keep just one of them, I would think Furcal would be the high priority keeper. They don't have a fall back option at SS. And seeing that the Cubs ownership is currently in flux, I don't see Hendry having the resources to sign Manny. And to add to that, I'm not sure Hendry would target Manny. He's had opportunities in the past to do just that and he didn't go for it.

 

One thing that the Cubs do have in their favor is that Hendry does like to mimic World Series champions, and if the Dodgers win it all, Hendry might decide that he needs some Dodger players at whatever cost is necessary.

[ArthurVandalay]

this thread is a joke. let's focus on ideas getting the roster better going forward.

 

They had the best roster in the National League this season. How much better do we have to be compared to every other team in the league to ensure we don't collapse again next year?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The Cardinals have been to the playoffs 7 times since 1990. They've won at least two playoff games in every single appearance.

 

The Cubs have been four times, and been swept three.

 

This isn't about the crapshoot, it's about the sheer impressiveness of the losing.