8/31 Phillies (Moyer) @ Cubs (Marshall ) - 1:20 CT WGN TV

[TMan92]

I could look up dozens of pitchers who have the same workload as CC.

 

no you couldn't. he's #2 in pitcher abuse points, so you could look up one pitcher who has the same workload as cc.

 

Whose #1 just out of curiosity?

 

Lincecum

 

http://baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=204015

[SouthSideRyan]

Sabathia and Lincecum are neck and neck for PAP title. Pretty much exchanging spots with each one's start.

 

Lincecum's abuse is defintely worse because of his size and experience, and the fact that the Giants aren't going anywhere.

 

But Sabathia's continued use during games that are well out of reach is pretty damn reckless.

[UMFan83]

I think it's funny that people are so worried about CC's arm. It is basically something that the media has made up considering the way in which pitchers are pampered now. Hey had pitch counts of 97,122,110,106,124,109,103,114,130, and 96 since coming to the brewers. Before he came to the brewers he had counts of 100, 107,91,93,102,111,104,106,117,110,98,102,119,106,112,116,116, and 123. Just for fun I looked up some of Z's considering HE is the one with the dead arm. He had counts of 103,104,125,118,82,88,119,105,and 98 during the same period as CC.

 

My point is that somehow CC is being talked about as being worked more than he needs. I could look up dozens of pitchers who have the same workload as CC. Heck, any pitcher who throws over 100 per start is considered overworked I guess. But for some reason he is the one talked about as getting worn down.. Just another media creation. There are alot of overworked pitchers out there if CC is. Take out his one game of 130 and he really is just another pitcher getting his work.

 

I'm pretty sure its a matter of keeping him in games where the Brewers are up by 7+ runs. Sure he might be able to handle the workload (and thats not proven), but why would you overwork him for no good reason?

[Andy]

I could look up dozens of pitchers who have the same workload as CC.

 

no you couldn't. he's #2 in pitcher abuse points, so you could look up one pitcher who has the same workload as cc.

 

Whose #1 just out of curiosity?

I'm betting Lincecum

[UMFan83]

That was not a strike earlier in the game.

[Little Slide Rooter]

It all comes down to Soriano. Whopee.

[Guest]

Theriot got fooled with that pitch.

[BCVM22]

Nice take, Riot. Time for Soriano to pop out weakly to center.

[Andy]

Good job Ryan.

[Careless]

This ump is just brutal. who is it, anyway?

[TMan92]

Another called third on another ball that is not even close.

[PrimeTime]

Jesus. Right down the middle. I wouldve put Edmonds in his place to pinch hit. Damnit

[Omar]

"You rarely see Ryan Theriot see a called third strike... Number one because its NOT A STRIKE!..." - Bob Brenly.

[TruffleShuffle]

I think it's funny that people are so worried about CC's arm. It is basically something that the media has made up considering the way in which pitchers are pampered now. Hey had pitch counts of 97,122,110,106,124,109,103,114,130, and 96 since coming to the brewers. Before he came to the brewers he had counts of 100, 107,91,93,102,111,104,106,117,110,98,102,119,106,112,116,116, and 123. Just for fun I looked up some of Z's considering HE is the one with the dead arm. He had counts of 103,104,125,118,82,88,119,105,and 98 during the same period as CC.

 

My point is that somehow CC is being talked about as being worked more than he needs. I could look up dozens of pitchers who have the same workload as CC. Heck, any pitcher who throws over 100 per start is considered overworked I guess. But for some reason he is the one talked about as getting worn down.. Just another media creation. There are alot of overworked pitchers out there if CC is. Take out his one game of 130 and he really is just another pitcher getting his work.

 

 

Check out his playoff stats from last year.

 

and last year he averaged 3 less pitches per game and had fewer PAPs. ned yost has no ability to see the big picture, as evidenced by sabathia's usage and gallardo pitching another inning after hurting his knee.

[BCVM22]

:lol: First pitch

[UMFan83]

Sorianblow

[Andy]

Nice take, Riot. Time for Soriano to pop out weakly to center.

You had too much confidence in him.

[SouthSideRyan]

Yeah I'm not getting the complaining, that was a strike.

[TMan92]

:lol: First pitch

 

Who?

[David]

...and we continue to get jobbed on the zone.

 

This is the worst umpiring crew I've ever seen.

 

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[Little Slide Rooter]

Why does this team insist on going through these useless phases?

[Outshined_One]

Lincecum's abuse is defintely worse because of his size and experience, and the fact that the Giants aren't going anywhere.

 

That and Lincecum's mechanics scare the crap out of a lot of people.

[Andy]

"You rarely see Ryan Theriot see a called third strike... Number one because its NOT A STRIKE!..." - Bob Brenly.

Bob's been whining about the zone all day. It's not a good zone at all, but that was a strike.

[David]

Yeah I'm not getting the complaining, that was a strike.

 

To Theriot?

 

That was inside.

[SouthSideRyan]

Yahoo's frozen, what's going on, are they just utterly stunned at Sabathia still being there so it's locked up?