Suck on it, Mizzou

[Butterscup1679666578]

we know, we know, florida did.

[Andy]

we know, we know, florida did.

Say to him what you say to Wisconsin fans who bring up 2006:

 

IN ELIGIBLE

 

The rule sucks, but it's there, they can't go, end of story. Want to play in the Sugar Bowl? Beat Georgia.

[SouthSideRyan]

we know, we know, florida did.

Say to him what you say to Wisconsin fans who bring up 2006:

 

IN ELIGIBLE

 

The rule sucks, but it's there, they can't go, end of story. Want to play in the Sugar Bowl? Beat Georgia.

 

Or win any of their 3 losses.

[Mephistopheles]

dear illinois fans

 

ron zook is not going to build a power in champaign. they'll be a lot like Iowa Purdue and Wisconsin, top 25 for a couple years, mediocre for a couple years, and so on alternating every couple years or so. They won't be as consistent as the Buckeyes and Wolverines. Zook isnt a good coach

 

He coached a terrible game against Iowa, but was pretty solid outside of that game. You maintain that the SEC is far and above a better conference than the rest. So if Zook can continue bringing in top 10-15 recruiting classes at Illinois, it should be an easier job for him to maintain a good program, right? I think they can easily be as consistant as Ohio State and Michigan in the next few years.

 

I have never and will never say that the SEC is always the best BCS conference. It is right now. Will it be in 2009? 2010? Probably not. It's cyclical. In fact the SEC was the doormat of BCS conferences when Zook was at Florida. It wasn't a great conference.

[BDWeav71]

I don't expect him to build a power here at Illinois. All i ever asked was for him to make us respectable again. Job well done, Zooker.

 

If we can be a program like Wisconsin, then I am a happy camper.

[cbbryan]

I don't expect him to build a power here at Illinois. All i ever asked was for him to make us respectable again. Job well done, Zooker.

 

If we can be a program like Wisconsin, then I am a happy camper.

 

 

I expect him to build a power. Not that I'll pull a Florida and ask for his head if he goes 7-4 next year, but I think he's already heading in the right direction.

 

Just keep recruiting well and it will all fall in place.

[Magnetic Curses]

I don't expect him to build a power here at Illinois. All i ever asked was for him to make us respectable again. Job well done, Zooker.

 

If we can be a program like Wisconsin, then I am a happy camper.

 

 

I expect him to build a power. Not that I'll pull a Florida and ask for his head if he goes 7-4 next year, but I think he's already heading in the right direction.

 

Just keep recruiting well and it will all fall in place.

 

i think zook calls the defensive plays, but he has nothing to do with the offense--that's locksley all the way, and i don't think anyone would call locksley a bad coach. he'll get a head job somewhere soon, which is why i wouldn't be upset if zook left--it would just mean that we'd keep locksley for a lot longer.

[cbbryan]

I don't expect him to build a power here at Illinois. All i ever asked was for him to make us respectable again. Job well done, Zooker.

 

If we can be a program like Wisconsin, then I am a happy camper.

 

 

I expect him to build a power. Not that I'll pull a Florida and ask for his head if he goes 7-4 next year, but I think he's already heading in the right direction.

 

Just keep recruiting well and it will all fall in place.

 

i think zook calls the defensive plays, but he has nothing to do with the offense--that's locksley all the way, and i don't think anyone would call locksley a bad coach. he'll get a head job somewhere soon, which is why i wouldn't be upset if zook left--it would just mean that we'd keep locksley for a lot longer.

 

 

I don't think Zook is going anywhere anytime soon. I could see Locksley getting a head job somewhere and it would hurt to lose him, but I'd like to keep Zook and his recruiting skills around.

 

If he can keep pulling kids from Florida, DC area, and Chicago. Illinois will be in good shape.

[NCCubFan]

So have we ever figured out if the Cotton Bowl was a BCS game or not?

It isn't. It used to be a major bowl before the BCS, but was left out of the BCS (I believe because they weren't willing to pay out enough). The BCS bowls are the Rose, Orange, Fiesta, and Sugar Bowls, and the BCS championship game (which rotates among the sites of the other BCS games).

I think you may have missed the joke. :wink:

Posting after 4:00 A.M. between dozes will do that to you.

[CuseCubFan69]

The more posts I read the more I realize there are a bunch of people who don't follow the Big Ten but pretend they do. Michigan was an 8-win team because Henne and Hart, two Heisman likely candidates at the beginning of the season, were hurt. You saw what happened to OU when Bradford was hurt. If you get past the hate, if Ron Zook stays at least throughout his contract, Illinois will have a bunch of 7+ win seasons, meaning there should be some 9+win and 10+win seasons, as well.

 

Right and I agree. Luckily no one from Illinois will ever get hurt so a 6 win season would never happen.

[Butterscup1679666578]

The more posts I read the more I realize there are a bunch of people who don't follow the Big Ten but pretend they do. Michigan was an 8-win team because Henne and Hart, two Heisman likely candidates at the beginning of the season, were hurt. You saw what happened to OU when Bradford was hurt. If you get past the hate, if Ron Zook stays at least throughout his contract, Illinois will have a bunch of 7+ win seasons, meaning there should be some 9+win and 10+win seasons, as well.

 

Right and I agree. Luckily no one from Illinois will ever get hurt so a 6 win season would never happen.

 

Little known fact, 3, 4, and 5 star players NEVER bust.

[Keener98]

The more posts I read the more I realize there are a bunch of people who don't follow the Big Ten but pretend they do. Michigan was an 8-win team because Henne and Hart, two Heisman likely candidates at the beginning of the season, were hurt. You saw what happened to OU when Bradford was hurt. If you get past the hate, if Ron Zook stays at least throughout his contract, Illinois will have a bunch of 7+ win seasons, meaning there should be some 9+win and 10+win seasons, as well.

 

Right and I agree. Luckily no one from Illinois will ever get hurt so a 6 win season would never happen.

 

Little known fact, 3, 4, and 5 star players NEVER bust.

 

 

When you get so many of them you can handle a few flaming out.

[CubinNY]

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Little known fact, 3, 4, and 5 star players NEVER bust.

But only the Golden Dome gets ****** star players.

[mjohnson71]

Rumor: Kansas bought their way into the Orange Bowl.

 

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/weblogs/entry/10507458

 

• The national championship matchup is OK with me. But just OK. As I stated in Sunday's story, Ohio State and LSU were least worst than everyone else. The next biggest controversy had to do with Missouri getting slotted into the Cotton Bowl despite being No. 1 (for a week) and beating Kansas head-to-head.

 

Kansas got into the Orange Bowl ahead of Missouri because the school guaranteed tickets. Attendance is still an issue with the Orange, and KU AD Lew Perkins guaranteeing ticket sales probably put the Jayhawks over the top.

 

As unseemly as it sounds, Missouri could have bought its way into the BCS. The ticket thing is left over from the old bowl system. It's clear that Perkins knows how to play the game. Missouri thought everything would work out. Well, it didn’t.

 

The only reason the Tigers got as high as the Cotton Bowl (against Arkansas) is that Texas lost to Texas A&M. Had the Aggies won, Missouri would be in the Holiday Bowl at 11-2. Great for the bowl, bad for the program.

 

[jaydee]

neither mizzou nor kansas deserved it but w/e

 

it sohuld of been ole miss, zomg the SEC is l33t0

[snoodmonger]

Rumor: Kansas bought their way into the Orange Bowl.

 

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/weblogs/entry/10507458

 

• The national championship matchup is OK with me. But just OK. As I stated in Sunday's story, Ohio State and LSU were least worst than everyone else. The next biggest controversy had to do with Missouri getting slotted into the Cotton Bowl despite being No. 1 (for a week) and beating Kansas head-to-head.

 

Kansas got into the Orange Bowl ahead of Missouri because the school guaranteed tickets. Attendance is still an issue with the Orange, and KU AD Lew Perkins guaranteeing ticket sales probably put the Jayhawks over the top.

 

As unseemly as it sounds, Missouri could have bought its way into the BCS. The ticket thing is left over from the old bowl system. It's clear that Perkins knows how to play the game. Missouri thought everything would work out. Well, it didn’t.

 

The only reason the Tigers got as high as the Cotton Bowl (against Arkansas) is that Texas lost to Texas A&M. Had the Aggies won, Missouri would be in the Holiday Bowl at 11-2. Great for the bowl, bad for the program.

 

 

And that's exactly what it is. A rumor. He provides no source, no evidence.

 

Mizzou (I believe) returned tickets from its last 2 bowl games. They also had a terrible attendance showing at the Big XII championship game. KU sold both theirs out and asked for more. Past travel history has a lot to do with it.

 

In the interest of full disclosure, that writer is a Mizzou grad, too.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Rumor: Kansas bought their way into the Orange Bowl.

 

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/weblogs/entry/10507458

 

• The national championship matchup is OK with me. But just OK. As I stated in Sunday's story, Ohio State and LSU were least worst than everyone else. The next biggest controversy had to do with Missouri getting slotted into the Cotton Bowl despite being No. 1 (for a week) and beating Kansas head-to-head.

 

Kansas got into the Orange Bowl ahead of Missouri because the school guaranteed tickets. Attendance is still an issue with the Orange, and KU AD Lew Perkins guaranteeing ticket sales probably put the Jayhawks over the top.

 

As unseemly as it sounds, Missouri could have bought its way into the BCS. The ticket thing is left over from the old bowl system. It's clear that Perkins knows how to play the game. Missouri thought everything would work out. Well, it didn’t.

 

The only reason the Tigers got as high as the Cotton Bowl (against Arkansas) is that Texas lost to Texas A&M. Had the Aggies won, Missouri would be in the Holiday Bowl at 11-2. Great for the bowl, bad for the program.

 

 

And that's exactly what it is. A rumor. He provides no source, no evidence.

 

Mizzou (I believe) returned tickets from its last 2 bowl games. They also had a terrible attendance showing at the Big XII championship game. KU sold both theirs out and asked for more. Past travel history has a lot to do with it.

 

In the interest of full disclosure, that writer is a Mizzou grad, too.

 

To be fair, the past two Bowl Games we were stuck in two Buttholes of America, El Paso and Shreveport. It's hard for a lot of fans to make trips down there, especially around the Holidays. Same with with the Big 12 Championship in San Antonio. That's a ~14 hour drive from Columbia. Tough to make in one weekend. We'll have a good showing in Dallas for the Cotton Bowl.

[mjohnson71]

Not like this is new news. How much extra has Notre Dame gotten over the years because their fans "travel well"?

[Derwood]

Not like this is new news. How much extra has Notre Dame gotten over the years because their fans "travel well"?

 

Notre Dame will ALWAYS get an at-large BCS bid when the qualify. ALWAYS

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Again, it's not like they took Texas in front of us. KU's fans pretty much embarrassed themselves at Arrowhead. They sold a bunch of their allotment to Mizzou fans second hand, and despite the ticket advantage of the home game, a distance advantage from Arrowhead to Lawrence compared to CoMo, and the fact that their tickets were given to them as part of the season ticket package(Mizzou did not), they were outclassed in terms of environment. The likely reason the B12 championship showing was poor(which is the first I've heard of it) is that it's hard to get large groups to travel to back to back neutral sites, especially when the latter is significantly more expensive and about 5 times further away. A bowl game is a different animal, as people plan for that coming into the season.

[mjohnson71]

Not like this is new news. How much extra has Notre Dame gotten over the years because their fans "travel well"?

 

Notre Dame will ALWAYS get an at-large BCS bid when the qualify. ALWAYS

 

I never understood the whole Notre Dame thing.

 

Years ago I dated a gal who went to Notre Dame, all her brother and sisters did, both her parents, most of her cousins, aunts, uncles etc also attended and graduated. Her parents had a nice house and over the fireplace (with three spotlights on it) was not a family potrait and nice painting: it was a giant photograph of her dad shaking hands with Lou Holtz at some booster club dinner.

 

I think she dated me just to tick her parents off: I was a heathen Illini student.

[Derwood]

Not like this is new news. How much extra has Notre Dame gotten over the years because their fans "travel well"?

 

Notre Dame will ALWAYS get an at-large BCS bid when the qualify. ALWAYS

 

I never understood the whole Notre Dame thing.

 

Years ago I dated a gal who went to Notre Dame, all her brother and sisters did, both her parents, most of her cousins, aunts, uncles etc also attended and graduated. Her parents had a nice house and over the fireplace (with three spotlights on it) was not a family potrait and nice painting: it was a giant photograph of her dad shaking hands with Lou Holtz at some booster club dinner.

 

I think she dated me just to tick her parents off: I was a heathen Illini student.

 

the first class you take as a freshman at Notre Dame is "Entitlement 101"

[bukie]

My wife went to Notre Dame. Not all fans have a sense of entitlement, and many just enjoy seeing their team have a chance on a national stage.

[mjohnson71]

Two words: Touchdown Jesus

[da bears]

Rumor: Kansas bought their way into the Orange Bowl.

 

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/weblogs/entry/10507458

 

• The national championship matchup is OK with me. But just OK. As I stated in Sunday's story, Ohio State and LSU were least worst than everyone else. The next biggest controversy had to do with Missouri getting slotted into the Cotton Bowl despite being No. 1 (for a week) and beating Kansas head-to-head.

 

Kansas got into the Orange Bowl ahead of Missouri because the school guaranteed tickets. Attendance is still an issue with the Orange, and KU AD Lew Perkins guaranteeing ticket sales probably put the Jayhawks over the top.

 

As unseemly as it sounds, Missouri could have bought its way into the BCS. The ticket thing is left over from the old bowl system. It's clear that Perkins knows how to play the game. Missouri thought everything would work out. Well, it didn’t.

 

The only reason the Tigers got as high as the Cotton Bowl (against Arkansas) is that Texas lost to Texas A&M. Had the Aggies won, Missouri would be in the Holiday Bowl at 11-2. Great for the bowl, bad for the program.

 

 

And that's exactly what it is. A rumor. He provides no source, no evidence.

 

Mizzou (I believe) returned tickets from its last 2 bowl games. They also had a terrible attendance showing at the Big XII championship game. KU sold both theirs out and asked for more. Past travel history has a lot to do with it.

 

In the interest of full disclosure, that writer is a Mizzou grad, too.

 

???? We sold out our allotment in less than two hours and people who were there said we had about 15,000 fans there. For having a whole week to plan for a trip 14 hours away, thats not bad. Especially considering it woulda been a lot more if students didnt have so much to do in the next few weeks.