2nd in BA, 4th in OBP, 6th in SLG...9th in Runs?

[KingCubsFan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?statType=batting&group=8&seasonType=2&type=reg&sort=runs&split=0&season=2007

[CubColtPacer]

Look at the number of games played-the Cubs are 6th in runs per game, which matches up with their 6th in OPS. They aren't all that far behind 3rd though-a good week and they could be there in runs/game.

[jersey cubs fan]

Look at the number of games played-the Cubs are 6th in runs per game, which matches up with their 6th in OPS. They aren't all that far behind 3rd though-a good week and they could be there in runs/game.

 

And then a bad week could bring them right back down. I'd be fine with this offense if it managed to finish the season in the top 5 across the board of OBP/SLG and Runs scored. But all evidence so far suggests they are maintaining the feast or famine problems that have been so troubling.

[erik316wttn]

I know the word "clutch" is laughed at around here, but this leads me to think there may be something to it.

 

Lack of clutch hitting--- hits with RISP, especially, is what kills us.

 

Does anyone have the number of runners the Cubs have left on base so far this year and where we rank?

[jersey cubs fan]

I know the word "clutch" is laughed at around here, but this leads me to think there may be something to it.

 

Lack of clutch hitting--- hits with RISP, especially, is what kills us.

 

Does anyone have the number of runners the Cubs have left on base so far this year and where we rank?

 

The runs scored total is down because they've played fewer games. The runs scored/game is right in line with the other rankings.

 

But just for giggles, the Cubs have the highest AVG in the league with RISP and the 3rd highest OPS. They have the 5th highest AVG with RISP/2outs and 6th highest OPS.

Edited May 16, 2007 by jersey cubs fan

[The Q]

I know the word "clutch" is laughed at around here, but this leads me to think there may be something to it.

 

Lack of clutch hitting--- hits with RISP, especially, is what kills us.

 

Does anyone have the number of runners the Cubs have left on base so far this year and where we rank?

 

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible. "Clutch" does not make you a better hitter. It's more or less f*cking luck.

 

There is a such thing as a clutch play or a clutch hit, but not a clutch player.

[rynefan]

Normally, if you get a guy on third with nobody out, you figure it'll score. With this team, it's like a man on third with nobody out, is a sure bet he'll be there three outs later. Horrible with RISP.

[CubColtPacer]

Normally, if you get a guy on third with nobody out, you figure it'll score. With this team, it's like a man on third with nobody out, is a sure bet he'll be there three outs later. Horrible with RISP.

 

Actually, the Cubs are one of the best in the league with RISP-that's not the problem this year. Even if they are bad at making productive outs (which I don't doubt they are from watching this team) that still wouldn't take them any worse than middle of the league overall in getting runners home.

[UBlink]

Normally, if you get a guy on third with nobody out, you figure it'll score. With this team, it's like a man on third with nobody out, is a sure bet he'll be there three outs later. Horrible with RISP.

 

Same link, Scoring Position 2 out Cubs rank 5th. Just Scoring position Cubs rank 1st

 

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[Abe Frohman]

I know the word "clutch" is laughed at around here, but this leads me to think there may be something to it.

 

Lack of clutch hitting--- hits with RISP, especially, is what kills us.

 

Does anyone have the number of runners the Cubs have left on base so far this year and where we rank?

 

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible. "Clutch" does not make you a better hitter. It's more or less f*cking luck.

 

There is a such thing as a clutch play or a clutch hit, but not a clutch player.

 

HUH? That's not true.

[sethuel1]

But that's not what I remember!

[NCCubFan]

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible. "Clutch" does not make you a better hitter. It's more or less f*cking luck.

Watch your language. The use of vulgarity is prohibited on this board, and as has been pointed out many times in the past, the use of a character such as an asterisk to get around the word censors is considered the same as typing the word.

[David]

I love how people want to say the Cubs have been terrible at hitting with RISP despite the fact that they've actually been one of the best in this luck-based statistic.

[kroth1342]

I think the more important statistic is that we're 9th in HR. I don't expect us to lead the NL in HR, but with Lee-Ramirez-Soriano-Barrett plus the amalgam of OF, I'd expect a top-5 club in HR and with that, some more runs scored.

 

Ramirez and Barret have done their part, but more HR from Soriano (in the 2 spot?) and Lee (although he's been outstanding), will help the cause.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible.

 

clutch is intangible

[Productive Outs]

I know the word "clutch" is laughed at around here, but this leads me to think there may be something to it.

 

Lack of clutch hitting--- hits with RISP, especially, is what kills us.

 

Does anyone have the number of runners the Cubs have left on base so far this year and where we rank?

 

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible. "Clutch" does not make you a better hitter. It's more or less f*cking luck.

 

There is a such thing as a clutch play or a clutch hit, but not a clutch player.

 

HUH? That's not true.

 

what part of his post is not true?

[seanimal]

The part where he disagrees.

[jjgman21]

Look at the number of games played-the Cubs are 6th in runs per game, which matches up with their 6th in OPS. They aren't all that far behind 3rd though-a good week and they could be there in runs/game.

 

And then a bad week could bring them right back down. I'd be fine with this offense if it managed to finish the season in the top 5 across the board of OBP/SLG and Runs scored. But all evidence so far suggests they are maintaining the feast or famine problems that have been so troubling.

 

there's been alot of this 'feast or famine' talk and reasons given. turns out, every team is feast or famine, except possibly the Brewers and Mets to an extent.

 

this isn't a perfect way to look at this phenomena, but most teams win the vast majority of the games they score 5 or more runs. the top run scoring teams in the league break out like this

 

0 run games/1 run games/2 run games/3 run games/4 run games

 

ChC 1/4/4/4/7

NYM 0/3/4/4/3

MwB 0/2/2/10/7

PhP 0/3/5/4/7

FlM 2/4/4/5/3

AtB 2/3/3/6/5

 

the breakdown for 0-2 run games/3-4 run games

 

ChC 9/11

NYM 7/7

MwB 4/17

PhP 8/11

FlM 10/8

AtB 8/11

 

looks like this 'feast or famine' thing the Cubs are oft said to be suffering from appears to be something all teams suffer from, the Cubs only marginally more than the top offenses in the league, if at all.

[soccer10k]

I know the word "clutch" is laughed at around here, but this leads me to think there may be something to it.

 

Lack of clutch hitting--- hits with RISP, especially, is what kills us.

 

Does anyone have the number of runners the Cubs have left on base so far this year and where we rank?

 

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible. "Clutch" does not make you a better hitter. It's more or less f*cking luck.

 

There is a such thing as a clutch play or a clutch hit, but not a clutch player.

 

HUH? That's not true.

 

If you're referring to what The Q said, he's right. The clutch player doesn't exist but a clutch play or clutch hit does.

[Lee50]

What's strange about the RISP is we have three of the top twenty in the majors yet rank only 6th a a team. I guess that means if it ain't Lee, Theriot, or Floyd we do stink at driving them in.

[erik316wttn]

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible.

 

clutch is intangible

 

Have you noticed a lot of players (not just the Cubs) who get into a good situation, say runners at 2nd and 3rd with no out and go up there hacking at pretty much anything? Patience has a lot to do with clutch, I think. Guys have to be calm enough in a situation to not get themselves out.

[badger1679666666]

 

0 run games/1 run games/2 run games/3 run games/4 run games

 

ChC 1/4/4/4/7

NYM 0/3/4/4/3

MwB 0/2/2/10/7

PhP 0/3/5/4/7

FlM 2/4/4/5/3

AtB 2/3/3/6/5

 

the breakdown for 0-2 run games/3-4 run games

 

ChC 9/11

NYM 7/7

MwB 4/17

PhP 8/11

FlM 10/8

AtB 8/11

 

looks like this 'feast or famine' thing the Cubs are oft said to be suffering from appears to be something all teams suffer from, the Cubs only marginally more than the top offenses in the league, if at all.

 

Are you trying to tell me people on NSBB.com blow everything out of perspective, mostly in game threads? That's unpossible! :shock:

[KingCubsFan]

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible.

 

clutch is intangible

 

Have you noticed a lot of players (not just the Cubs) who get into a good situation, say runners at 2nd and 3rd with no out and go up there hacking at pretty much anything? Patience has a lot to do with clutch, I think. Guys have to be calm enough in a situation to not get themselves out.

I think this is part of the reason we've actually done well with RISP this year. When Clines was the hitting coach, you would never have to throw the hitters a strike with RISP because they were overly agressive

[jjgman21]

 

0 run games/1 run games/2 run games/3 run games/4 run games

 

ChC 1/4/4/4/7

NYM 0/3/4/4/3

MwB 0/2/2/10/7

PhP 0/3/5/4/7

FlM 2/4/4/5/3

AtB 2/3/3/6/5

 

the breakdown for 0-2 run games/3-4 run games

 

ChC 9/11

NYM 7/7

MwB 4/17

PhP 8/11

FlM 10/8

AtB 8/11

 

looks like this 'feast or famine' thing the Cubs are oft said to be suffering from appears to be something all teams suffer from, the Cubs only marginally more than the top offenses in the league, if at all.

 

Are you trying to tell me people on NSBB.com blow everything out of perspective, mostly in game threads? That's unpossible! :shock:

 

tough to say as in the other thread they seem to be making excuses for the woeful bullpen.

[Ivy Walls]

than you don't know what you are talking about.....clutch hitting is a talent, or not choking.....

 

Jones is one of the best examples of choking...jeter is an example of clutch hitting,

 

but what do you know....Cubs stats show they are not clutch or good situational hitters

 

I know the word "clutch" is laughed at around here, but this leads me to think there may be something to it.

 

Lack of clutch hitting--- hits with RISP, especially, is what kills us.

 

Does anyone have the number of runners the Cubs have left on base so far this year and where we rank?

 

Clutch is laughed at because it is not a player intangible. "Clutch" does not make you a better hitter. It's more or less f*cking luck.

 

There is a such thing as a clutch play or a clutch hit, but not a clutch player.

 

HUH? That's not true.

 

what part of his post is not true?