College Football - Week of 11/25

[jjgman21]

 

I've always wanted to see something like they do in college basketball - an ACC/Big 10 challenge sort of thing.

 

they do actually, just not all in the same year. the Cal/Minnesota matchup this year is part of the current arrangement, as were the games the Badgers had against Oregon a few years back and probably WSU next year. I forget exactly how it works, but there is some agreement in place.

[cubweiser03]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are.

This is what I knew was coming after that USC game and why I'm even more pissed off that they didn't put up a better fight.

 

Nothing was exposed that we didnt know before. The secondary and average OL play. The dline and LB played really well, but there is just a severe drop off in the secondary that only the top teams in the nations can expose. The oline with pressure is hard for ND to stop. They are still a top 15 team no doubt because they are great on the offensive skills positions and solid on the front 7. There are still many teams after the top 5 that they can give them a run for their money and/or beat. They most definetly arent weak but they arent NC world class either.

 

IF they go to a BCS bowl without playing a top 6 team they stand a very good chance of winning. Whether they deserve it or not is up to your own preference.

[CuseCubFan69]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

I think every BCS team should play at least 2 BCS teams out of conference.

 

I've always wanted to see something like they do in college basketball - an ACC/Big 10 challenge sort of thing.

 

Our AD is going to get an easier schedule from here on. Syracuse usually plays too many BCS teams in their out of season schedule. This year we played Wake Forrest, Iowa and Illinois.

[cubweiser03]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

I think every BCS team should play at least 2 BCS teams out of conference.

I'd be happy with 1. Two seems like it'd be really hard to arrange.

 

Michigan and OSU each did twice this year.

I think a B10 vs Big East or ACC would be kinda cool. (The B10 and SEC play too much in the bowls). Michigan has a built in OOC rivalry with ND so i dont expect them to play a texas or OU as well. OSU playing Texas the last 2 years is progress. Id like them to build the rivalry like UM/ND. It seems like a good fit.

 

A lot of it has to do with money rather than the competive aspect. ND/UM not only get great attendance hey get the TV exposure, which is the key. A Wisconsin/WVU just dont get much more TV exposure for those 2 schools than if they played Buffalo or Bowling Green at home and get the 94,000 people every year rather than every other year for a home-and-home.

 

IF 2 conferences can arrange a week of games that might get some neat TV exposure/excitement.

[jjgman21]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

I think every BCS team should play at least 2 BCS teams out of conference.

I'd be happy with 1. Two seems like it'd be really hard to arrange.

 

Michigan and OSU each did twice this year.

I think a B10 vs Big East or ACC would be kinda cool. (The B10 and SEC play too much in the bowls). Michigan has a built in OOC rivalry with ND so i dont expect them to play a texas or OU as well. OSU playing Texas the last 2 years is progress. Id like them to build the rivalry like UM/ND. It seems like a good fit.

 

A lot of it has to do with money rather than the competive aspect. ND/UM not only get great attendance hey get the TV exposure, which is the key. A Wisconsin/WVU just dont get much more TV exposure for those 2 schools than if they played Buffalo or Bowling Green at home and get the 94,000 people every year rather than every other year for a home-and-home.

 

IF 2 conferences can arrange a week of games that might get some neat TV exposure/excitement.

 

actually what I would like to see more than anything is no non-conference games and a playoff system. teams that don't make the playoffs could them put together a couple of pride matches between conferences.

[CDBears1259]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

I really hope this doesn't happen as I graduated from LSU and am a big Notre Dame fan. I had this happen back in '97 or '98 and hated the situation.

 

Haha. That is a bad situation, but I would enjoy watching the game. :D The two compare very well.

Actually, I don't think they compare very well at all. LSU's offensive strength is passing, a weak point for ND's D. ND's offensive strong point is passing, but LSU is equally strong against the pass and the run. From what I've seen of ND, I think LSU's D would wear them out (ND would likely have to pass all day and LSU's DB's are among the best in the nation. Jamarcus Russell along with LSU's receivers, IMO, would eat ND's DB up. ND might be able to contain LSU's running game, but the passing game would eventually open that up.

 

That all depends on the day JaMarcus Russell had. He's terribly inconsistent which is the reason, I believe, they have two losses.

Also, ND struggles with deep passing games. Chad Henne to Mario Manningham toasted them, Booty deep to Jarrett, etc. Their secondary doesn't have the speed to keep up with deep threats.

LSU's strength is working the ball down the field through the air. I haven't seen them do well consistently going deep down the field. Russell's got the arm strength without question (probably the strongest arm in the nation) but his inconsistent accuracy often gets him in trouble throwing deep.

The LSU offense excels by being physical and dominating through strength, wearing down opponents. I think ND could defend that well for a while, but eventually would lose the game.

All this is moot, though, if the bad JaMarcus Russell shows up like he did against Florida.

Inconsistent yes, but I wouldn't say terribly inconsistent. He's had one really bad game against U of F and one sort of bad game against in AU in those 2 loses. I wouldn't chalk up both those loses solely on his inconsistency. There were coaching issues, quesitonable penalities, turnovers, dropped passes etc. His deep threat ability is more than enough to beat ND regardless of his inconsistency, especially if the passes that should be caught are held onto. If he all out sucks that day ND might have better chance against the LSU defense. I wouldn't rely on an awful JaMarcus showing up for ND to win.

[NewUserName]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

 

 

No chaos. It would only make the 2 best teams meet in the NC game

[dew1679666265]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

I really hope this doesn't happen as I graduated from LSU and am a big Notre Dame fan. I had this happen back in '97 or '98 and hated the situation.

 

Haha. That is a bad situation, but I would enjoy watching the game. :D The two compare very well.

Actually, I don't think they compare very well at all. LSU's offensive strength is passing, a weak point for ND's D. ND's offensive strong point is passing, but LSU is equally strong against the pass and the run. From what I've seen of ND, I think LSU's D would wear them out (ND would likely have to pass all day and LSU's DB's are among the best in the nation. Jamarcus Russell along with LSU's receivers, IMO, would eat ND's DB up. ND might be able to contain LSU's running game, but the passing game would eventually open that up.

 

That all depends on the day JaMarcus Russell had. He's terribly inconsistent which is the reason, I believe, they have two losses.

Also, ND struggles with deep passing games. Chad Henne to Mario Manningham toasted them, Booty deep to Jarrett, etc. Their secondary doesn't have the speed to keep up with deep threats.

LSU's strength is working the ball down the field through the air. I haven't seen them do well consistently going deep down the field. Russell's got the arm strength without question (probably the strongest arm in the nation) but his inconsistent accuracy often gets him in trouble throwing deep.

The LSU offense excels by being physical and dominating through strength, wearing down opponents. I think ND could defend that well for a while, but eventually would lose the game.

All this is moot, though, if the bad JaMarcus Russell shows up like he did against Florida.

Inconsistent yes, but I wouldn't say terribly inconsistent. He's had one really bad game against U of F and one sort of bad game against in AU in those 2 loses. I wouldn't chalk up both those loses solely on his inconsistency. There were coaching issues, quesitonable penalities, turnovers, dropped passes etc. His deep threat ability is more than enough to beat ND regardless of his inconsistency, especially if the passes that should be caught are held onto. If he all out sucks that day ND might have better chance against the LSU defense. I wouldn't rely on an awful JaMarcus showing up for ND to win.

 

I shouldn't have narrowed my analysis to just Russell as the whole team is very inconsistent. They were awful against Florida, bad against Auburn, bad again against a terrible Ole Miss team, so-so against Tennessee. And I don't think ND has to count on them playing bad, but if the Tigers do, ND could beat them big.

Also, LSU really doesn't have a great deep threat. Early Doucet (cool name) is good but they don't seem to have a Skyler Green or Bennie Brazell that specializes in outrunning people down the field. That really seems to kill ND more than anything.

One problem the Irish would have that I didn't think of earlier is the LSU defensive line. ND's O-line is awful and the Tigers' D-line is one of the best.

Ultimately I think LSU would win, but it'd be a fairly close game.

[dew1679666265]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

 

 

No chaos. It would only make the 2 best teams meet in the NC game

 

There's a difference between the two best and two most deserving. Michigan doesn't fit the latter.

[CDBears1259]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

I really hope this doesn't happen as I graduated from LSU and am a big Notre Dame fan. I had this happen back in '97 or '98 and hated the situation.

 

Haha. That is a bad situation, but I would enjoy watching the game. :D The two compare very well.

Actually, I don't think they compare very well at all. LSU's offensive strength is passing, a weak point for ND's D. ND's offensive strong point is passing, but LSU is equally strong against the pass and the run. From what I've seen of ND, I think LSU's D would wear them out (ND would likely have to pass all day and LSU's DB's are among the best in the nation. Jamarcus Russell along with LSU's receivers, IMO, would eat ND's DB up. ND might be able to contain LSU's running game, but the passing game would eventually open that up.

 

That all depends on the day JaMarcus Russell had. He's terribly inconsistent which is the reason, I believe, they have two losses.

Also, ND struggles with deep passing games. Chad Henne to Mario Manningham toasted them, Booty deep to Jarrett, etc. Their secondary doesn't have the speed to keep up with deep threats.

LSU's strength is working the ball down the field through the air. I haven't seen them do well consistently going deep down the field. Russell's got the arm strength without question (probably the strongest arm in the nation) but his inconsistent accuracy often gets him in trouble throwing deep.

The LSU offense excels by being physical and dominating through strength, wearing down opponents. I think ND could defend that well for a while, but eventually would lose the game.

All this is moot, though, if the bad JaMarcus Russell shows up like he did against Florida.

Inconsistent yes, but I wouldn't say terribly inconsistent. He's had one really bad game against U of F and one sort of bad game against in AU in those 2 loses. I wouldn't chalk up both those loses solely on his inconsistency. There were coaching issues, quesitonable penalities, turnovers, dropped passes etc. His deep threat ability is more than enough to beat ND regardless of his inconsistency, especially if the passes that should be caught are held onto. If he all out sucks that day ND might have better chance against the LSU defense. I wouldn't rely on an awful JaMarcus showing up for ND to win.

 

I shouldn't have narrowed my analysis to just Russell as the whole team is very inconsistent. They were awful against Florida, bad against Auburn, bad again against a terrible Ole Miss team, so-so against Tennessee. And I don't think ND has to count on them playing bad, but if the Tigers do, ND could beat them big.

Also, LSU really doesn't have a great deep threat. Early Doucet (cool name) is good but they don't seem to have a Skyler Green or Bennie Brazell that specializes in outrunning people down the field. That really seems to kill ND more than anything.

One problem the Irish would have that I didn't think of earlier is the LSU defensive line. ND's O-line is awful and the Tigers' D-line is one of the best.

Ultimately I think LSU would win, but it'd be a fairly close game.

If a much better FLA team couldn't beat LSU big (23-10, not big IMO as the game was a little closer than the score indicates.), I don't think a so-so ND could beat them w/o the benefit of a poor LSU showing.

 

You are correct about a legitimate deep threat, though. While LSU has some of the best recievers in the country their only true speed is a midget named Trindon Holliday. He is awesome though. I wouldn't use Bennie Brazell as an example to bolster your point though as his nickname around these parts is "butterfingers".

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

Boise and ND both look to be near-locks for BCS bowls. With Michigan already in the Rose Bowl/NC game, that leaves one spot for LSU, Florida (if they lose to Arkansas) or Louisville (if Rutgers beats WV).

 

I'm guessing Florida loses to Arkansas and takes that final at-large slot, leaving Wisconsin vs LSU as the greatest non-BCS game of all time.

 

Why would ND get an at-large over LSU who out-ranks them by five spots?

[soccer10k]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

Boise and ND both look to be near-locks for BCS bowls. With Michigan already in the Rose Bowl/NC game, that leaves one spot for LSU, Florida (if they lose to Arkansas) or Louisville (if Rutgers beats WV).

 

I'm guessing Florida loses to Arkansas and takes that final at-large slot, leaving Wisconsin vs LSU as the greatest non-BCS game of all time.

 

Why would ND get an at-large over LSU who out-ranks them by five spots?

 

Because they're Notre Dame and the bowls like them.

[dew1679666265]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

I really hope this doesn't happen as I graduated from LSU and am a big Notre Dame fan. I had this happen back in '97 or '98 and hated the situation.

 

Haha. That is a bad situation, but I would enjoy watching the game. :D The two compare very well.

Actually, I don't think they compare very well at all. LSU's offensive strength is passing, a weak point for ND's D. ND's offensive strong point is passing, but LSU is equally strong against the pass and the run. From what I've seen of ND, I think LSU's D would wear them out (ND would likely have to pass all day and LSU's DB's are among the best in the nation. Jamarcus Russell along with LSU's receivers, IMO, would eat ND's DB up. ND might be able to contain LSU's running game, but the passing game would eventually open that up.

 

That all depends on the day JaMarcus Russell had. He's terribly inconsistent which is the reason, I believe, they have two losses.

Also, ND struggles with deep passing games. Chad Henne to Mario Manningham toasted them, Booty deep to Jarrett, etc. Their secondary doesn't have the speed to keep up with deep threats.

LSU's strength is working the ball down the field through the air. I haven't seen them do well consistently going deep down the field. Russell's got the arm strength without question (probably the strongest arm in the nation) but his inconsistent accuracy often gets him in trouble throwing deep.

The LSU offense excels by being physical and dominating through strength, wearing down opponents. I think ND could defend that well for a while, but eventually would lose the game.

All this is moot, though, if the bad JaMarcus Russell shows up like he did against Florida.

Inconsistent yes, but I wouldn't say terribly inconsistent. He's had one really bad game against U of F and one sort of bad game against in AU in those 2 loses. I wouldn't chalk up both those loses solely on his inconsistency. There were coaching issues, quesitonable penalities, turnovers, dropped passes etc. His deep threat ability is more than enough to beat ND regardless of his inconsistency, especially if the passes that should be caught are held onto. If he all out sucks that day ND might have better chance against the LSU defense. I wouldn't rely on an awful JaMarcus showing up for ND to win.

 

I shouldn't have narrowed my analysis to just Russell as the whole team is very inconsistent. They were awful against Florida, bad against Auburn, bad again against a terrible Ole Miss team, so-so against Tennessee. And I don't think ND has to count on them playing bad, but if the Tigers do, ND could beat them big.

Also, LSU really doesn't have a great deep threat. Early Doucet (cool name) is good but they don't seem to have a Skyler Green or Bennie Brazell that specializes in outrunning people down the field. That really seems to kill ND more than anything.

One problem the Irish would have that I didn't think of earlier is the LSU defensive line. ND's O-line is awful and the Tigers' D-line is one of the best.

Ultimately I think LSU would win, but it'd be a fairly close game.

If a much better FLA team couldn't beat LSU big (23-10, not big IMO as the game was a little closer than the score indicates.), I don't think a so-so ND could beat them w/o the benefit of a poor LSU showing.

 

You are correct about a legitimate deep threat, though. While LSU has some of the best recievers in the country their only true speed is a midget named Trindon Holliday. He is awesome though. I wouldn't use Bennie Brazell as an example to bolster your point though as his nickname around these parts is "butterfingers".

 

Y'know, I don't really think Florida is much better than ND. Chris Leak is very talented but is very shaky and uncomposed in big games. The defense is great but I don't like the offense much.

And I don't think ND beats LSU without a poor Tiger showing, but I think it'll be close (very similar to Florida game just with LSU on top). If LSU plays bad, ND wins.

I like the nickname for Brazell, wish he played that way against UT more often. :) My main point about him, though, was he had the speed to beat people deep, whether he catches the ball or not. Holliday's a nice young player but I wouldn't count on him in the biggest game of the year just yet.

[dew1679666265]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

Boise and ND both look to be near-locks for BCS bowls. With Michigan already in the Rose Bowl/NC game, that leaves one spot for LSU, Florida (if they lose to Arkansas) or Louisville (if Rutgers beats WV).

 

I'm guessing Florida loses to Arkansas and takes that final at-large slot, leaving Wisconsin vs LSU as the greatest non-BCS game of all time.

 

Why would ND get an at-large over LSU who out-ranks them by five spots?

 

Because they're Notre Dame and the bowls like them.

 

That's the sad truth about the crap system we're having forced upon us. ND brings in viewers and money, thus the bowls and media loves them.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

 

 

No chaos. It would only make the 2 best teams meet in the NC game

 

There's a difference between the two best and two most deserving. Michigan doesn't fit the latter.

Um, they played the 2nd or 3rd toughest schedule in the country, and their only loss came to the #1 ranked team in the country (by 3 points). How are they not most deserving?

[SouthSideRyan]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

Boise and ND both look to be near-locks for BCS bowls. With Michigan already in the Rose Bowl/NC game, that leaves one spot for LSU, Florida (if they lose to Arkansas) or Louisville (if Rutgers beats WV).

 

I'm guessing Florida loses to Arkansas and takes that final at-large slot, leaving Wisconsin vs LSU as the greatest non-BCS game of all time.

 

Why would ND get an at-large over LSU who out-ranks them by five spots?

 

Because the SEC can only send 2 teams. And if Arkansas wins the SEC title game, it's tough to take LSU over Florida when Florida beat LSU.

[dew1679666265]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

 

 

No chaos. It would only make the 2 best teams meet in the NC game

 

There's a difference between the two best and two most deserving. Michigan doesn't fit the latter.

Um, they played the 2nd or 3rd toughest schedule in the country, and their only loss came to the #1 ranked team in the country (by 3 points). How are they not most deserving?

 

They lost to Ohio State in their final game and, thus, have had no games with which to redeem themselves. It's silly to lose your final game of the season and not win your conference, yet still be handed a shot to try to be the best team in the nation. Had they had games (playoffs maybe) in between their match w/Ohio St then I wouldn't have a problem with a rematch.

Simply put, you cannot be the second best team in your conference and be handed a shot at being the best in the nation. You should earn the chance and Michigan doesn't have that option.

[Andy]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

Boise and ND both look to be near-locks for BCS bowls. With Michigan already in the Rose Bowl/NC game, that leaves one spot for LSU, Florida (if they lose to Arkansas) or Louisville (if Rutgers beats WV).

 

I'm guessing Florida loses to Arkansas and takes that final at-large slot, leaving Wisconsin vs LSU as the greatest non-BCS game of all time.

 

Why would ND get an at-large over LSU who out-ranks them by five spots?

What are you talking about? It's not an either/or situation. Either they're both going to get it (if Florida wins the SEC title game) or LSU won't be eligible (because Arkansas wins and Florida goes as the 2nd SEC team).

[NewUserName]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

 

 

No chaos. It would only make the 2 best teams meet in the NC game

 

There's a difference between the two best and two most deserving. Michigan doesn't fit the latter.

 

 

There the most deserving now. If it wasnt for some sort of mythical doesnt make any sense we dont want a rematch rule they would be #2. I have said though that USC will make it if they win out. I wouldnt argue against them becuase they played a real good non-conference schedule. However if they lose than Michigan most certainly deserves and is the best team in line to play OSU.

[soccer10k]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

 

 

No chaos. It would only make the 2 best teams meet in the NC game

 

There's a difference between the two best and two most deserving. Michigan doesn't fit the latter.

 

 

There the most deserving now. If it wasnt for some sort of mythical doesnt make any sense we dont want a rematch rule they would be #2. I have said though that USC will make it if they win out. I wouldnt argue against them becuase they played a real good non-conference schedule. However if they lose than Michigan most certainly deserves and is the best team in line to play OSU.

 

I think the BCS got it right. USC is the second best team in the nation and is the most deserving of being ranked #2. They earned their way to this point. But, like you said, if somehow UCLA beats USC then Michigan, and not Florida (if they win the SEC title game), should be in the title game.

[CuseCubFan69]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

 

edit - I think Buffalo might have given them alot of dough to schedule them as well.

 

Actually it's Wisconsin that's offering the money to Buffalo.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If only two teams from a conference can be in BCS bowls, then how is Wisconcin in the discussion. Wouldn't OSU and Michigan get those two spots?

[CubColtPacer]

If only two teams from a conference can be in BCS bowls, then how is Wisconcin in the discussion. Wouldn't OSU and Michigan get those two spots?

 

Wisconsin's not in the discussion. Obviously, they would be one of the leading candidates if they were eligble, but they are not. There was a little bit of discussion that if they were #3 overall if that would get them in, but it still doesn't. Two is the absolute limit for any conference.

[Andy]

If only two teams from a conference can be in BCS bowls, then how is Wisconcin in the discussion. Wouldn't OSU and Michigan get those two spots?

 

Wisconsin's not in the discussion. Obviously, they would be one of the leading candidates if they were eligble, but they are not. There was a little bit of discussion that if they were #3 overall if that would get them in, but it still doesn't. Two is the absolute limit for any conference.

Which is a rule that IMO should be changed when you look at the fact that both LSU and Wisconsin are good enough to be BCS teams but simply have no chance (in LSU's case if Arkansas wins the SEC title game).

[CubColtPacer]

If only two teams from a conference can be in BCS bowls, then how is Wisconcin in the discussion. Wouldn't OSU and Michigan get those two spots?

 

Wisconsin's not in the discussion. Obviously, they would be one of the leading candidates if they were eligble, but they are not. There was a little bit of discussion that if they were #3 overall if that would get them in, but it still doesn't. Two is the absolute limit for any conference.

Which is a rule that IMO should be changed when you look at the fact that both LSU and Wisconsin are good enough to be BCS teams but simply have no chance (in LSU's case if Arkansas wins the SEC title game).

 

I would agree that it needs to be changed. Now that there are 10 BCS slots, there is enough flexibility. Before, when there were only 8 teams in, it would require one conference to take both at-large spots, and that was seen as a little over the top. Now, with 4 at-large spots available, that concern is not nearly as large.