Rogers: Cubs, Red Sox showing most interest in Drew

[Soul]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/11/25/progress_made_in_drew_talks/?page=1

 

 

I think this is a key to JD(from the article)

 

 

"His nickname in the Dodger clubhouse, according to one big league coach, was "Nancy Drew," and according to one major leaguer who has played against Drew for much of his career, one Dodger player greeted the news of Drew's departure by phoning friends in jubilation.

 

Some of that same undercurrent was present when he was with the Cardinals. Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Buzz Bissinger, who spent much of the 2003 season with the Cardinals for a book entitled "Three Nights in August," wrote in the book that Cardinals manager Tony La Russa "wondered whether Drew's underlying ailment, like it was for so many young players coming into sudden millions, was an absence of sustained passion that had no medical remedy." "

 

You mean a key as to why the Cubs have shied away? You could be exactly right.

[CubinNY]

The resent posts in this thread make me further question the signing of Soriano. As it stands right now, the Cubs do not have a CF. They have Pie waiting in the wings however, the jury is still very much out on the talented 21 year old. I wouldn't count on Pie for anything in the near future.

 

So, instead of targeting a guy like Drew (who can play CF) they're going to try to move JJ to CF? or are the going to trade JJ? They are targeting Lugo but as a CF? They can move Soriano to CF but he hasn't ever played CF.

 

I am certianly not a defense first type of thinker, but CF seems to me to be one of the most important places for defense, especially with Murton and Soriano in corners.

 

I hope things work themselves out by the end of the offseason, but as it stands I don't like the Cubs chances regardless of who they can get to picth.

 

They just aren't put together very well. . . right now.

[baseball7897]

The resent posts in this thread make me further question the signing of Soriano. As it stands right now, the Cubs do not have a CF. They have Pie waiting in the wings however, the jury is still very much out on the talented 21 year old. I wouldn't count on Pie for anything in the near future.

 

So, instead of targeting a guy like Drew (who can play CF) they're going to try to move JJ to CF? or are the going to trade JJ? They are targeting Lugo but as a CF? They can move Soriano to CF but he hasn't ever played CF.

 

I am certianly not a defense first type of thinker, but CF seems to me to be one of the most important places for defense, especially with Murton and Soriano in corners.

 

I hope things work themselves out by the end of the offseason, but as it stands I don't like the Cubs chances regardless of who they can get to picth.

 

They just aren't put together very well. . . right now.

 

SS and the catcher position are the most important for defense. But I agree that CF will be an important spot on defense for the Cubs with Soriano and Murton at the corners.

[FergieJ31]

The resent posts in this thread make me further question the signing of Soriano. As it stands right now, the Cubs do not have a CF. They have Pie waiting in the wings however, the jury is still very much out on the talented 21 year old. I wouldn't count on Pie for anything in the near future.

 

So, instead of targeting a guy like Drew (who can play CF) they're going to try to move JJ to CF? or are the going to trade JJ? They are targeting Lugo but as a CF? They can move Soriano to CF but he hasn't ever played CF.

 

I am certianly not a defense first type of thinker, but CF seems to me to be one of the most important places for defense, especially with Murton and Soriano in corners.

 

I hope things work themselves out by the end of the offseason, but as it stands I don't like the Cubs chances regardless of who they can get to picth.

 

They just aren't put together very well. . . right now.

 

Completely agree. I hope Hendry is planning on trading for a real CF (Wells plz) because moving Soriano or Jones there will cost the Cubs a couple of games in the final standings.

[YearofDaCubs]

The resent posts in this thread make me further question the signing of Soriano. As it stands right now, the Cubs do not have a CF. They have Pie waiting in the wings however, the jury is still very much out on the talented 21 year old. I wouldn't count on Pie for anything in the near future.

 

So, instead of targeting a guy like Drew (who can play CF) they're going to try to move JJ to CF? or are the going to trade JJ? They are targeting Lugo but as a CF? They can move Soriano to CF but he hasn't ever played CF.

 

I am certianly not a defense first type of thinker, but CF seems to me to be one of the most important places for defense, especially with Murton and Soriano in corners.

 

I hope things work themselves out by the end of the offseason, but as it stands I don't like the Cubs chances regardless of who they can get to picth.

 

They just aren't put together very well. . . right now.

 

Completely agree. I hope Hendry is planning on trading for a real CF (Wells plz) because moving Soriano or Jones there will cost the Cubs a couple of games in the final standings.

Wells or Drew would solidify this lineup no doubt.

[RockTheIvy]

I think the lineup is pretty good as is. Drew or Wells would make it the best Cub lineup ever.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I think the lineup is pretty good as is. Drew or Wells would make it the best Cub lineup ever.

 

Um....let's not get carried away.

 

1. Woody English

2. Kiki Cuyler

3. Rogers Hornsby

4. Hack Wilson

5. Gabby Hartnett

6. Riggs Stephenson

7. Charlie Grimm

8. Norm McMillan

[Roast]

I think the lineup is pretty good as is. Drew or Wells would make it the best Cub lineup ever.

 

Um....let's not get carried away.

 

1. Woody English

2. Kiki Cuyler

3. Rogers Hornsby

4. Hack Wilson

5. Gabby Hartnett

6. Riggs Stephenson

7. Charlie Grimm

8. Norm McMillan

 

Wrong.

 

1. Who cares

2. Who cares

3. SAMMY SOSA

4. Who cares

5. Who cares

6. Who cares

7. Who cares

8. Who cares.

 

 

joking.

[RockTheIvy]

I think the lineup is pretty good as is. Drew or Wells would make it the best Cub lineup ever.

 

Um....let's not get carried away.

 

1. Woody English

2. Kiki Cuyler

3. Rogers Hornsby

4. Hack Wilson

5. Gabby Hartnett

6. Riggs Stephenson

7. Charlie Grimm

8. Norm McMillan

 

...of my lifetime...sorry bout that.

[Roast]

On a serious note, this lineup would drive in some serious runs:

 

Soriano

Murton

Lee

Ramirez

Wells/Drew

Barrett

DeRosa

Izturus

 

Crazy.

 

Also, I'm still interested in trading for Manny. But thats another thread.

[RockTheIvy]

On a serious note, this lineup would drive in some serious runs:

 

Soriano

Murton

Lee

Ramirez

Wells/Drew

Barrett

DeRosa

Izturus

 

Crazy.

 

Right. I mean, that's sick. You could potentiall have 6 players getting an OPS over .900. Of course, I'm sure Izzy's .650 would balance it out nicely.

[radarluv1]

i think it makes the most sense to get a better offensive SS like lugo, and let a JJ/pie CF develop thi yr. with pie waiting i see no reason to spend prospects to get an expensive vet in CF

[CuseCubFan69]

i think it makes the most sense to get a better offensive SS like lugo, and let a JJ/pie CF develop thi yr. with pie waiting i see no reason to spend prospects to get an expensive vet in CF

 

I thought that Pie hit lefty too? That could be kind of messy.

[radarluv1]

i think it makes the most sense to get a better offensive SS like lugo, and let a JJ/pie CF develop thi yr. with pie waiting i see no reason to spend prospects to get an expensive vet in CF

 

I thought that Pie hit lefty too? That could be kind of messy.

 

yeah they both are lefties. i wasnt talking about a platoon, more like seeing how big a disaster JJ is in CF and giving pie a precious month or two in AAA. then trade JJ for some value.

[KingCubsFan]

I really can't see Hendry going for another long-term solution in the outfield. Hendry (and the rest of the organizaton) is high on both Pie and Murton, which is why he seems to be looking for a stopgap CF, whether it be Jones or someone else. Part of the advantage of getting Soriano is that he can play all 3 positions, so they can move him around until Pie is ready. That's probably a big reason they preferred him over Carlos Lee.

[SouthSideRyan]

The resent posts in this thread make me further question the signing of Soriano. As it stands right now, the Cubs do not have a CF. They have Pie waiting in the wings however, the jury is still very much out on the talented 21 year old. I wouldn't count on Pie for anything in the near future.

 

So, instead of targeting a guy like Drew (who can play CF) they're going to try to move JJ to CF? or are the going to trade JJ? They are targeting Lugo but as a CF? They can move Soriano to CF but he hasn't ever played CF.

 

I am certianly not a defense first type of thinker, but CF seems to me to be one of the most important places for defense, especially with Murton and Soriano in corners.

 

I hope things work themselves out by the end of the offseason, but as it stands I don't like the Cubs chances regardless of who they can get to picth.

 

They just aren't put together very well. . . right now.

 

I don't think Jones or Soriano in CF is any less risky of a proposition than Drew in CF. Jones was only moved off of CF because of Hunter, and Soriano made some serious strides in his first year as an OF. Drew hasn't been a regular CF since '99.

[nilodnayr]

I really can't see Hendry going for another long-term solution in the outfield. Hendry (and the rest of the organizaton) is high on both Pie and Murton, which is why he seems to be looking for a stopgap CF, whether it be Jones or someone else. Part of the advantage of getting Soriano is that he can play all 3 positions, so they can move him around until Pie is ready. That's probably a big reason they preferred him over Carlos Lee.

 

I don't have the link, but Hendry said about a week ago that they would not go for another long term contract in the OF. Also, we did promise Soriano that he would only play one position, meaning that he HAS to play RF, if we plan on eventually bringing Pie up to play CF. Outside of Wells and Andruw, are their any other CFs, that will be FAs next offseason who can outproduce Jones? Unfortunately, I don't think Hendry is smart enough to buy low on Crisp and deal him if/when Pie is ready to supplant him.

[abuck1220]

Phil Rodgers' column today says the Cubs want to trade Jacque. So who would play CF? Lugo?

 

I really don't get ideas of starting Lugo or Soriano in CF. They have COMBINED to play....wait for it....ONE game in CF in their careers. I know, let's sign JD Drew to play catcher! Maybe Vicente Padilla can spell Izturis at SS!

 

you're right. moving padilla to ss is just like moving soriano one spot over in the OF to CF.

[Athletics36]

Red Sox are spending "Big-time" this offseason, reported in Boston papers Sox are close to an agreement with Drew. Sticking point is that Drew is looking for a 5th yr but Sox are currently offering 4 at 14Mil.

[Derwood]

Phil Rodgers' column today says the Cubs want to trade Jacque. So who would play CF? Lugo?

 

I really don't get ideas of starting Lugo or Soriano in CF. They have COMBINED to play....wait for it....ONE game in CF in their careers. I know, let's sign JD Drew to play catcher! Maybe Vicente Padilla can spell Izturis at SS!

 

you're right. moving padilla to ss is just like moving soriano one spot over in the OF to CF.

 

clearly my sarcasm was aimed at the idea of putting a SS in CF, not Soriano

[CheeseHead Cubs Fan]

Crap,

 

SI.com's Jon Heyman believes the Red Sox and J.D. Drew are close to a deal that could be announced within the next week.

According to Heyman, several major league executives who were bidding on Drew said Saturday he is ticketed to Boston. There hasn't been any word on the money yet, but Drew is likely to get at least $56 million for four years. $75 million for five years might be more realistic. Nov. 25 - 9:53 pm et

[Butterscup1679666578]

Crap,

 

SI.com's Jon Heyman believes the Red Sox and J.D. Drew are close to a deal that could be announced within the next week.

According to Heyman, several major league executives who were bidding on Drew said Saturday he is ticketed to Boston. There hasn't been any word on the money yet, but Drew is likely to get at least $56 million for four years. $75 million for five years might be more realistic. Nov. 25 - 9:53 pm et

 

Well we werent expected to land him after we got Soriano anyways.

[radarluv1]

i dont see him doing well on the Red sox with all the media scrutiny and everything. i guess for 56 or 75 he'll find a way to tough it out.

[E.J.]

i dont see him doing well on the Red sox with all the media scrutiny and everything. i guess for 56 or 75 he'll find a way to tough it out.

 

I don't either. I think Boston fans are going to heckle the crap out of him. I see it turning into a really bad situation.

[LeftCoastCubFan]

i dont see him doing well on the Red sox with all the media scrutiny and everything. i guess for 56 or 75 he'll find a way to tough it out.

Tough it out and JD should never be used in the same sentence.