Free Agent Predictions

[baseball7897]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hendry went after Weaver. It would follow his M.O. of copying the WS winner, but not really understanding why that team really won.

 

Don't you know? Weaver is a great pitcher! His postseaon shows that! He's better than Verlander or anyone else on the Tigers. He's probably better than Santana on the Twins too!

 

Since you didn't understand what I was saying. I said Weaver was a better post season pitcher than Verlander was. Weaver as the 5th starter would be fine with me. He will give you 11-13 wins a year, and he will pitch atleast 200 innings.

 

 Year Round Tm  Opp WLser  G GS  ERA    W-L  SV CG SHO  IP   H   ER  BB  SO
+------------------+-----+--+--+------+-----+--+--+---+-----+---+---+---+---+
2002 ALDS  NYY ANA   L    2  0   6.75  0-0   0  0   0   2.7   4   2   3   1
2003 WS    NYY FLA   L    1  0   9.00  0-1   0  0   0   1.0   1   1   0   0
2004 NLDS  LAD STL   L    1  1  11.57  0-1   0  0   0   4.7   8   6   2   4

 

Ok, so Weaver in the postseason before this year was an absolute disaster. You're seriously telling me that you somehow knew that Weaver in this postseason was going to be solid gold, even though he's never had ANY postseason success before?

 

If it's true, please pm me the winning ohio lottery numbers.

 

ALL I SAID WAS, "JEFF WEAVER PITCHED BETTER THAN JUSTIN VERLANDER IN THE POST-SEASON."

[sethuel1]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hendry went after Weaver. It would follow his M.O. of copying the WS winner, but not really understanding why that team really won.

 

Don't you know? Weaver is a great pitcher! His postseaon shows that! He's better than Verlander or anyone else on the Tigers. He's probably better than Santana on the Twins too!

 

Since you didn't understand what I was saying. I said Weaver was a better post season pitcher than Verlander was. Weaver as the 5th starter would be fine with me. He will give you 11-13 wins a year, and he will pitch atleast 200 innings.

 

 Year Round Tm  Opp WLser  G GS  ERA    W-L  SV CG SHO  IP   H   ER  BB  SO
+------------------+-----+--+--+------+-----+--+--+---+-----+---+---+---+---+
2002 ALDS  NYY ANA   L    2  0   6.75  0-0   0  0   0   2.7   4   2   3   1
2003 WS    NYY FLA   L    1  0   9.00  0-1   0  0   0   1.0   1   1   0   0
2004 NLDS  LAD STL   L    1  1  11.57  0-1   0  0   0   4.7   8   6   2   4

 

Ok, so Weaver in the postseason before this year was an absolute disaster. You're seriously telling me that you somehow knew that Weaver in this postseason was going to be solid gold, even though he's never had ANY postseason success before?

 

If it's true, please pm me the winning ohio lottery numbers.

 

ALL I SAID WAS, "JEFF WEAVER PITCHED BETTER THAN JUSTIN VERLANDER IN THE POST-SEASON."

 

No, you said he was a better postseason pitcher. Not the same thing.

 

Is Kenny Rogers a good postseason pitcher?

[baseball7897]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hendry went after Weaver. It would follow his M.O. of copying the WS winner, but not really understanding why that team really won.

 

Don't you know? Weaver is a great pitcher! His postseaon shows that! He's better than Verlander or anyone else on the Tigers. He's probably better than Santana on the Twins too!

 

Since you didn't understand what I was saying. I said Weaver was a better post season pitcher than Verlander was. Weaver as the 5th starter would be fine with me. He will give you 11-13 wins a year, and he will pitch atleast 200 innings.

 

 Year Round Tm  Opp WLser  G GS  ERA    W-L  SV CG SHO  IP   H   ER  BB  SO
+------------------+-----+--+--+------+-----+--+--+---+-----+---+---+---+---+
2002 ALDS  NYY ANA   L    2  0   6.75  0-0   0  0   0   2.7   4   2   3   1
2003 WS    NYY FLA   L    1  0   9.00  0-1   0  0   0   1.0   1   1   0   0
2004 NLDS  LAD STL   L    1  1  11.57  0-1   0  0   0   4.7   8   6   2   4

 

Ok, so Weaver in the postseason before this year was an absolute disaster. You're seriously telling me that you somehow knew that Weaver in this postseason was going to be solid gold, even though he's never had ANY postseason success before?

 

If it's true, please pm me the winning ohio lottery numbers.

 

ALL I SAID WAS, "JEFF WEAVER PITCHED BETTER THAN JUSTIN VERLANDER IN THE POST-SEASON."

 

No, you said he was a better postseason pitcher. Not the same thing.

 

Is Kenny Rogers a good postseason pitcher?

 

I may of said Weaver was better than Verlander in the post season. I think it is the same thing.

[sethuel1]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hendry went after Weaver. It would follow his M.O. of copying the WS winner, but not really understanding why that team really won.

 

Don't you know? Weaver is a great pitcher! His postseaon shows that! He's better than Verlander or anyone else on the Tigers. He's probably better than Santana on the Twins too!

 

Since you didn't understand what I was saying. I said Weaver was a better post season pitcher than Verlander was. Weaver as the 5th starter would be fine with me. He will give you 11-13 wins a year, and he will pitch atleast 200 innings.

 

 Year Round Tm  Opp WLser  G GS  ERA    W-L  SV CG SHO  IP   H   ER  BB  SO
+------------------+-----+--+--+------+-----+--+--+---+-----+---+---+---+---+
2002 ALDS  NYY ANA   L    2  0   6.75  0-0   0  0   0   2.7   4   2   3   1
2003 WS    NYY FLA   L    1  0   9.00  0-1   0  0   0   1.0   1   1   0   0
2004 NLDS  LAD STL   L    1  1  11.57  0-1   0  0   0   4.7   8   6   2   4

 

Ok, so Weaver in the postseason before this year was an absolute disaster. You're seriously telling me that you somehow knew that Weaver in this postseason was going to be solid gold, even though he's never had ANY postseason success before?

 

If it's true, please pm me the winning ohio lottery numbers.

 

ALL I SAID WAS, "JEFF WEAVER PITCHED BETTER THAN JUSTIN VERLANDER IN THE POST-SEASON."

 

No, you said he was a better postseason pitcher. Not the same thing.

 

Is Kenny Rogers a good postseason pitcher?

 

I may of said Weaver was better than Verlander in the post season. I think it is the same thing.

 

may have

[Soul]

The reason the Cards won this year is because the league as a whole sucked bones.

 

I'd rather build a good baseball team than rely on the entire major leagues to stink again next year. We're pretty far away though, IMHO. I'm thinking 2 year plan at the moment. Who knows though. Last year took alot out of me. I'm just hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe a few Lou moments to tide me over.

[Outshined_One]

Enough with the Weaver/Verlander junk already.

 

Also, that website says that we re-sign Rammy for 6/$75.

[CubsInNC]

 

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Guys, give it a rest. You don't agree, and you likely won't ever on this subject. No sense in dragging it out to other threads.

Edited October 30, 2006 by CubsInNC

[sethuel1]

 

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Guys, give it a rest. You don't agree, and you likely won't ever on this subject. No sense in dragging it out to other threads.

 

You took a lot of time to write blah there.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I've had enough of this Weaver crap. All of you stop it, quit trying to egg on and piss off other posters.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The reason the Cards won this year is because the league as a whole sucked bones.

 

I'd rather build a good baseball team than rely on the entire major leagues to stink again next year. We're pretty far away though, IMHO. I'm thinking 2 year plan at the moment. Who knows though. Last year took alot out of me. I'm just hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe a few Lou moments to tide me over.

 

I think a 2 year plan is needed, but Jim Hendry's job is on the line and he sure won't want to rebuild.

[sethuel1]

I've had enough of this Weaver crap. All of you stop it, quit trying to egg on and piss off other posters.

wait until we sign him

[Derwood]

Frank Stallone?

[CubsInNC]

The reason the Cards won this year is because the league as a whole sucked bones.

 

I'd rather build a good baseball team than rely on the entire major leagues to stink again next year. We're pretty far away though, IMHO. I'm thinking 2 year plan at the moment. Who knows though. Last year took alot out of me. I'm just hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe a few Lou moments to tide me over.

 

I think a 2 year plan is needed, but Jim Hendry's job is on the line and he sure won't want to rebuild.

 

I agree with the 2 year assessment. Aside from a HUGE bump in payroll, and the luck to get at least 3 of the top 10 free agents available (2 SPs and 1 thumping bat at 2B or CF) we're not really gonna have much of a viable chance next year. I'm just not banking on us getting those FAs we need.

[abuck1220]

if the cubs are going to spend that kind of money on a handful of crappy players, i'd rather just have them give soriano a 25 mil/year contract. at least you'd get one good player for your money.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

if the cubs are going to spend that kind of money on a handful of crappy players, i'd rather just have them give soriano a 25 mil/year contract. at least you'd get one good player for your money.

 

IMO, Soriano is a pretty big gamble to be really good next year. What's the difference between him and Carlos Lee?

[abuck1220]

if the cubs are going to spend that kind of money on a handful of crappy players, i'd rather just have them give soriano a 25 mil/year contract. at least you'd get one good player for your money.

 

IMO, Soriano is a pretty big gamble to be really good next year. What's the difference between him and Carlos Lee?

 

soriano's ability to play 2b or possibly cf...two huge holes for the cubs. additionally, his offense at those two spots would be elite, and that's not the case for lee if lf. additionally, signing lee means you bump murton/jones, and you haven't reallly filled any holes.

[cubweiser03]

Soriano has an extraordinary FB-GB ratio favoring FB. I think him in Wrigley could also improve his power even further or at least remain constitant to his previous years.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

 

Since you didn't understand what I was saying. I said Weaver was a better post season pitcher than Verlander was. Weaver as the 5th starter would be fine with me. He will give you 11-13 wins a year, and he will pitch atleast 200 innings.

 

I guess you like old, beat down players. Bonds and Alou come to mind. They're just going to take away AB's from a future all-star in Murton.

 

I like productive players. Bonds and Alou have at least been that. Weaver on the other hand, has been below league average for nearly his entire career.

 

I like Murton, but Bonds would be immensely more productive than Matt.

 

Bonds OPS + of 156 is much greater than Matt's 103. In fact, Bonds hasn't had one that low since 1986.

 

Alou might be more productive as well. (132 OPS+ in 2006), though he has had a season in 2002 lower than Murton's 2006. But my plan for Moises isn't to replace Matt, but to split AB's fairly evenly between RF and LF, splitting as much time with Jones as he would Murton.

 

On the other hand, would Weaver (76 ERA+) be any more productive than Marshall (83 ERA+) or Marmol (76 ERA+) or Mateo (87 ERA+) or Guzman (63 ERA+)? All are below average pitchers, but two of the four were better than Weaver this year. Weaver hasn't been better than average since 2003. He certainly doesn't warrant consideration for a fifth starter when we have cheaper, more productive in-house candidates.

 

Wade Miller's 101 ERA+ is a better option for fifth starter than Weaver.

 

So, while I might have a predilection for old, players, at least I like productive ones who are more productive than the players they would block as opposed to singing the praises of a player who is below average and less productive than the players he would block.

 

(not too bad for my 25000 post! :D )

[rjchapma]

Im looking at the link and I dont see us siging Nixon or Weaver they only said Roberts and aramis? let me know if you see the same thing.

[soccer10k]

Enough with the Weaver/Verlander junk already.

 

Also, that website says that we re-sign Rammy for 6/$75.

 

This was the first thing I noticed as well. If we don't resign him, the rest of the moves are basically worthless. We need ARam as a Cub in 2007.