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Magnetic Curses

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Bruce, if a tree falls in the woods and ronnie woo woo isn't there to yell about it, do the cubs still suck?

 

 

I'm still doing the Q and A. This thread just seemed to take on that quality.

 

 

you didn't answer my first question ;)

Nor did he answer BalsaWoodKeyBoard's question about being a Communist. :D

 

i've heard he is. though we must go to different meetings.

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goonys evil twin

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That basically summed up all my fears about Piniela. Why baseball people are so much more comfortable with bad veterans than potentially good kids is beyond me. Is it a general distrust of whippersnappers?
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There's a scathing review of Piniella's tenure as D-Rays manager at Bleed Cubbie Blue.

 

That article was cold as ice...

 

Too willing to sacrifice?

You're as cold as ice, you're willing to sacrifice our love

You never take advice, someday you'll pay the price, I know

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That basically summed up all my fears about Piniela. Why baseball people are so much more comfortable with bad veterans than potentially good kids is beyond me. Is it a general distrust of whippersnappers?

 

I don't know about you, but I've had those damn things go off in my hand before.

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Change the thread title--Piniella gets the job according to the ST.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/96509,CST-SPT-deluca14.article

My biggest concern with Lou is not so much how he handles the offense - I don't think he views base clogging as a negative - but how he'll handle the pitching staff. As far as rookies, if the Cubs are 10 games out by next September and he still insists on playing, say, a Mabry-like player ahead of someone like Scott Moore...well, then, hopefully he'll drag Jim Hendry into the voidless MLB purgatory which he so richly deserves.

 

By hiring Lou, I hope the Cubs mean business and are willing to take the steps necessary to go all out.

 

PS: Please hire Chris Chambliss for hitting coach.

 

PSS: Oh yeah, ARod.

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Change the thread title--Piniella gets the job according to the ST.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/96509,CST-SPT-deluca14.article

My biggest concern with Lou is not so much how he handles the offense - I don't think he views base clogging as a negative - but how he'll handle the pitching staff. As far as rookies, if the Cubs are 10 games out by next September and he still insists on playing, say, a Mabry-like player ahead of someone like Scott Moore...well, then, hopefully he'll drag Jim Hendry into the voidless MLB purgatory which he so richly deserves.

 

By hiring Lou, I hope the Cubs mean business and are willing to take the steps necessary to go all out.

 

PS: Please hire Chris Chambliss for hitting coach.

 

I was talking to a big time Mariners fan the other day, and I got a scouting report on Lou. (This friend is also admittedly a big-time stats guy). He said that:

1)Lou picks his spots carefully when to lose his temper, and really does a good job motivating his players and working the umpires. 2)He has a good lineup construction, and that he knows not to bat people second who have no business batting 2nd (knowing I'm a Cubs fan, he quickly brought up that Lou would not leave a guy like Perez in the 2 spot).

3) As far as the pitching staff goes, Lou has shown an inability sometimes to know when a pitcher is done. He said that Lou did not have a tendency towards a short or a long hook, so he wasn't per se an abuser of pitchers, just that he struggled when to pull a pitcher if the pitcher was starting to struggle.

4) Lou expects everybody to respect him. He will play the most talented player available even if they are rookies, but if the player has the wrong attitude he will ride them very, very hard (he brought up the example of Bret Boone coming up and thinking he was just going to be the man as he was in previous stops, and Lou did not take very kindly to that).

 

That along with some comments that Lou has made on the air elevated him to the Girardi level for me (as a manager with some things I liked and some things I really didn't like). Bochy would have been preferred by me, but apparently the management only gave Hendry the choices of Girardi or Piniella-and IMO, this is the right choice of the two if they are committed to winning now, and sign some high-impact players to back up that committment.

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USSoccer

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Just when I think things cannot possibly get any worse.

 

Just wait until ARam walks...

 

And Rothschild is brought back...

 

And Neifi is resigned for the bench in December...

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E.J.

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Well, that optimism I had a couple weeks ago when Dusty was fired and MacPhail left has all but subsided. I'm still trying to figure out why Hendry is the GM.
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YearofDaCubs

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Well, that optimism I had a couple weeks ago when Dusty was fired and MacPhail left has all but subsided. I'm still trying to figure out why Hendry is the GM.

I'm going to keep taking the pessimistic approach until I see this organization finally do something right which may be never. IMO hiring Piniella is a terrible idea and cleaning house from top to bottom yet you leave a terrible GM here still in charge just shows how incompetent this organization still is. This is just terrible...

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NCCubFan

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If Hendry was told that he can't hire Bochy (as the article stated) it makes me wonder about Hendry's relationship with the higher-ups. I believe McDonough earlier stated that it would be up to Hendry to decide who to hire, but this report seems to contradict that. I think McDonough needs to either let Hendry be the GM, no strings attached, or else fire him and hire someone he trusts.

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