Matsuzaka: Red Sox Win w/ $51.1M Bid

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Someone has brought that up in the past, probably even this thread. The commissioner's office would probably get involved if someone made a very large posting bid without genuine intent to sign Matsuzaka to a decent deal.

 

I guess the question would be what qualified for a genuine interest in signing him.

 

Would offering Matsuzuka a 6/30 deal qualify as genuine? I don't know and I don't know if the commisioner would agree or not.

 

Definitely, Daisuke has no room to complain about a 6/30 deal.

 

That wouldn't be a bad deal for a team. Submit a 50 million posting fee and then offer Daisuke 6/30. At worst, you have him for a cost of 80 million which is like 13 million a season. That's cheaper than offering a 30 million posting fee and then paying him 10 million a season.

 

He may turn it down, but then he's kept from signing elsewhere. The only damage may be that he won't negotiate with that team when he returns as a FA next season.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Someone has brought that up in the past, probably even this thread. The commissioner's office would probably get involved if someone made a very large posting bid without genuine intent to sign Matsuzaka to a decent deal.

 

I guess the question would be what qualified for a genuine interest in signing him.

 

Would offering Matsuzuka a 6/30 deal qualify as genuine? I don't know and I don't know if the commisioner would agree or not.

 

Definitely, Daisuke has no room to complain about a 6/30 deal.

 

That wouldn't be a bad deal for a team. Submit a 50 million posting fee and then offer Daisuke 6/30. At worst, you have him for a cost of 80 million which is like 13 million a season. That's cheaper than offering a 30 million posting fee and then paying him 10 million a season.

 

He may turn it down, but then he's kept from signing elsewhere. The only damage may be that he won't negotiate with that team when he returns as a FA next season.

 

That's not taking advantage of the system though. If a team won with a 30 million bid, they could (and should) offer him a deal like that. Look at Ichiro for an example of a posted player's initial contract.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

"I'm not sure which team I will end up playing for," Matsuzaka said. "I know there are several teams that are interested and I'll go with the one that most appropriately evaluates my ability."

 

seems that either he or I does not understand the posting process.

 

The team that pays the most in the bidding process (and thus "appropriately evaluates my ability") will get him.

 

EDIT: TT is much faster than me.

[Jazz]

http://www.inside-edge.com/espn/postseason_06/matsuzaka_media.htm

[CuseCubFan69]

Someone has brought that up in the past, probably even this thread. The commissioner's office would probably get involved if someone made a very large posting bid without genuine intent to sign Matsuzaka to a decent deal.

 

I guess the question would be what qualified for a genuine interest in signing him.

 

Would offering Matsuzuka a 6/30 deal qualify as genuine? I don't know and I don't know if the commisioner would agree or not.

 

Definitely, Daisuke has no room to complain about a 6/30 deal.

 

That wouldn't be a bad deal for a team. Submit a 50 million posting fee and then offer Daisuke 6/30. At worst, you have him for a cost of 80 million which is like 13 million a season. That's cheaper than offering a 30 million posting fee and then paying him 10 million a season.

 

He may turn it down, but then he's kept from signing elsewhere. The only damage may be that he won't negotiate with that team when he returns as a FA next season.

 

Could the O's do a sign and trade?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Someone has brought that up in the past, probably even this thread. The commissioner's office would probably get involved if someone made a very large posting bid without genuine intent to sign Matsuzaka to a decent deal.

 

I guess the question would be what qualified for a genuine interest in signing him.

 

Would offering Matsuzuka a 6/30 deal qualify as genuine? I don't know and I don't know if the commisioner would agree or not.

 

Definitely, Daisuke has no room to complain about a 6/30 deal.

 

That wouldn't be a bad deal for a team. Submit a 50 million posting fee and then offer Daisuke 6/30. At worst, you have him for a cost of 80 million which is like 13 million a season. That's cheaper than offering a 30 million posting fee and then paying him 10 million a season.

 

He may turn it down, but then he's kept from signing elsewhere. The only damage may be that he won't negotiate with that team when he returns as a FA next season.

 

Could the O's do a sign and trade?

 

I'm sure it's possible. But I wonder if MLB would approve of a team sending enough cash in the deal to cover the posting fee.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

For the gamblers, you can go to http://www.sportsbook.com and bet on which team will land Matsuzaka.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

According to rotowire, several teams have decided to back out of the bidding. Those teams include the Angels, Orioles, and Giants.

[Yeti]

According to rotowire, several teams have decided to back out of the bidding. Those teams include the Angels, Orioles, and Giants.

this is certainly not bad news

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think I'm going to place a bet tonight that Texas gets him.

[RyCubsFan]

According to rotowire, several teams have decided to back out of the bidding. Those teams include the Angels, Orioles, and Giants.

this is certainly not bad news

 

And no Mariners.

 

So who does this leave? Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Rangers, Cubs, Red Sox, Tigers, and Padres (Not really sure about Rangers and Tigers.)

 

Any other possible suitors? I don't think Padres will have the money. Red Sox, like the Cubs, have yet to make a splash in the Asian market. Yanks surely have to be the favorite, with Mets maybe not far behind.

 

Here's hoping Hendry feels enough heat to make a splash.

[ctcf]

When is this all decided exactly?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

[CubColtPacer]

According to rotowire, several teams have decided to back out of the bidding. Those teams include the Angels, Orioles, and Giants.

this is certainly not bad news

 

And no Mariners.

 

So who does this leave? Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Rangers, Cubs, Red Sox, Tigers, and Padres (Not really sure about Rangers and Tigers.)

 

Any other possible suitors? I don't think Padres will have the money. Red Sox, like the Cubs, have yet to make a splash in the Asian market. Yanks surely have to be the favorite, with Mets maybe not far behind.

 

Here's hoping Hendry feels enough heat to make a splash.

 

I'd be surprised if anybody but the Yankees, Cubs, Mets, Red Sox, or Rangers won the bid. Texas and the Yankees have to be the leaders for me, because those are the two teams who will literally throw large amounts of money around like crazy sometimes (the Red Sox and Mets do, but it is usually much more calculated, and I think one of the first two will have a bid way above market value, and the Cubs won't go that high either).

[ctcf]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

 

Are we even sure we're actually in it?

[Yeti]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

 

Are we even sure we're actually in it?

im thinking someone didnt take the time to even skim the earlier parts of this thread

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

 

Are we even sure we're actually in it?

 

Based on indications a few weeks ago, the Cubs were planning on putting in a bid for Daisuke. They haven't been singled out for pulling out of the process like the Angels, Marines, Orioles and Giants have. The Cubs seemed more interested in other Japanese pitchers, so they might not have much confidence in putting up a winning bid Daisuke.

Edited November 2, 2006 by CaliforniaRaisin

[ctcf]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

 

Are we even sure we're actually in it?

im thinking someone didnt take the time to even skim the earlier parts of this thread

 

I rarely have time to skim anything.

[Yeti]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

 

Are we even sure we're actually in it?

im thinking someone didnt take the time to even skim the earlier parts of this thread

 

I rarely have time to skim anything.

so hows college going?

[ctcf]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

 

Are we even sure we're actually in it?

im thinking someone didnt take the time to even skim the earlier parts of this thread

 

I rarely have time to skim anything.

so hows college going?

 

Its awesome

[wekse]

somebody's getting laid.

[E.J.]

According to rotowire, several teams have decided to back out of the bidding. Those teams include the Angels, Orioles, and Giants.

 

So do we really believe these teams (Mariners included) are actually backing out of the bidding, or are they just posturing? Don't see the point in them coming out and saying they aren't bidding. Might as well not say anything. Only thing to be gained is teams believe them so they think the bidding won't go as high as it would if these teams were involved in the bidding.

[Guest]

Wow, no Angels, Mariners or Orioles. Good to hear so far that the Cubs haven't dropped out too.

 

I'd guess that the Rangers and Yankees are now the leading contenders.

 

When is this all decided exactly?

 

Probably sometime at the end of next week (Friday seems to be the latest).

 

Major league teams wishing to sign Japanese pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka must submit their offers by 5 p.m. EST next Wednesday -- and the Seattle Mariners won't be bidding.

 

Matsuzaka was officially put up for auction Thursday by the Seibu Lions of Japan's Pacific League. After the bidding has closed, the Lions will be told of the highest offer, without being informed of which team made it. The Lions have until Nov. 14 to accept.

 

[Shilzzz]

i'm telling you guys, this offseason is going to be horrible. while we will probably get aramis back, i don't see any japanese pitching coming over, and no schmidt or zito either. so who does that leave? suppan? lol.

[Soriano12]

i'm telling you guys, this offseason is going to be horrible. while we will probably get aramis back, i don't see any japanese pitching coming over,

 

What about Tanaka? He was pretty good

 

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