Matsuzaka: Red Sox Win w/ $51.1M Bid

[Wheelimus]

Kuroda is coming off one hell of a year, doesn't look like he's been ran into the ground.

 

And I like this quote from his Wiki entry

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Hiroki_Kuroda

 

Given that he plays in the most offense-friendly park in Japan, his ERA+ is probably more impressive than his ERA.

[shnsajax]

What day are they expecting to announce who won the rights to Matsuzaka?

[Neuby]

I don't thing signing a guy like Miller will Hinder Hendry making a run at two major starters. I think Miller and Prior are both looked as anything you get from there next year is a plus.

[CUBZ99]

Kuroda is coming off one hell of a year, doesn't look like he's been ran into the ground.

 

And I like this quote from his Wiki entry

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Hiroki_Kuroda

 

Given that he plays in the most offense-friendly park in Japan, his ERA+ is probably more impressive than his ERA.

 

I read somewhere that the Cubs didn't have to enter a bidding war to get Kuroda. Is there a time period in which they can negotiate a contract with him or is it likely they will wait to see if they lose out on their main target?

[1908]

Is there a time period in which they can negotiate a contract with him or is it likely they will wait to see if they lose out on their main target?

Kuroda will be an unrestricted free agent starting the middle of November, I believe.

[TheDude]

I'd rather have a Diasuke/Padilla combo vs a Kuroda/Zito-Schmidt combo.

 

Wow. Not me. I'll Schmidt and Kuroda every time.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

This article implies that the posting process begins Wednesday for Matsuzaka.

 

Ineligible for total free agency until next winter, Matsuzaka is being made available -- or "posted" -- by the Seibu Lions. The Lions can begin the posting process at their discretion, but no sooner than Nov. 1. Given the appetite for the 26-year-old right-hander, most Major League Baseball sources believe he will be posted Wednesday.

 

[don_kessinger_was_good]

This article implies that the posting process begins Wednesday for Matsuzaka.

 

Ineligible for total free agency until next winter, Matsuzaka is being made available -- or "posted" -- by the Seibu Lions. The Lions can begin the posting process at their discretion, but no sooner than Nov. 1. Given the appetite for the 26-year-old right-hander, most Major League Baseball sources believe he will be posted Wednesday.

 

 

To extend this thought, it is very likely it will be known who the high bidder is by this coming Monday the 6th. It had better be the Cubs. If it is: then Sayonara, Aramis. And I'd be OK with that.

 

Follow up Matsuzaka with Iwamura, and now we're talking.

[E.J.]

Looks like he's been posted. From Rotoworld:

 

Daisuke Matsuzaka - S - INT - Nov. 1 - 9:25 am et

 

Daisuke Matsuzaka confirmed Wedneesday that the Seibu Lions have agreed to post him, making him available to major league teams.

"I feel very relieved today," Matsuzaka said. "I've wanted to go to the major leagues for a long time and am happy this day has finally come." The 26-year-old right-hander didn't comment on any of the candidates to land his rights. "I'm not sure which team I will end up playing for," he said. "I know there are several teams that are interested and I'll go with the one that most appropriately evaluates my ability." Nov. 1 - 9:25 am et

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't think that means he's been posted. It means it's going to happen, but I didn't read that to mean that they've already done it.

[Soriano12]

Matsuzaka has indeed been posted.....

 

 

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/2006/0320/photo/g_matsuzaka2_195.jpg

 

 

by me. :o

[Mephistopheles]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2645777

 

Posted tomorrow...

 

so...

 

Thursday-Monday bidding

Tuesday-Friday seibu can accept and then it is announced

[cbbryan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2645777

 

Posted tomorrow...

 

so...

 

Thursday-Monday bidding

Tuesday-Friday seibu can accept and then it is announced

 

GO CUBS GO!!!!!!

[Guest]

Matsuzaka first burst onto the scene at the 1998 national high school baseball tournament.

 

After throwing 250 pitches in Yokohama High School's 17-inning quarterfinal victory, he came in the next day to get the save in the semis before tossing a no-hitter the following day as his team won the championship.

 

Sounds like Kerry Wood . . . :shock:

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-matsuzaka&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Guest]

"I'm not sure which team I will end up playing for," Matsuzaka said. "I know there are several teams that are interested and I'll go with the one that most appropriately evaluates my ability."

 

seems that either he or I does not understand the posting process.

[baseball7897]

Matsuzaka first burst onto the scene at the 1998 national high school baseball tournament.

 

After throwing 250 pitches in Yokohama High School's 17-inning quarterfinal victory, he came in the next day to get the save in the semis before tossing a no-hitter the following day as his team won the championship.

 

Sounds like Kerry Wood . . . :shock:

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-matsuzaka&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

:shock: :shock: I dont see how is arm didnt fall off. Pitching is not a natural movement.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

"I'm not sure which team I will end up playing for," Matsuzaka said. "I know there are several teams that are interested and I'll go with the one that most appropriately evaluates my ability."

 

seems that either he or I does not understand the posting process.

 

Maybe he means "most appropriately evaluates my ability" = bids the most. Probably a translation/language thing.

[Guest]

yea, but its not his choice, right?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

yea, but its not his choice, right?

 

Right. I don't think his quote necessarily implied that it was his choice though.

[Guest]

yea, perhaps not. I don't know that I would shell out $30 million to sign him.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The Mariners won't be competing for Matsuzuka.

 

Link.

 

Seattle general manager Bill Bavasi confirmed Wednesday that the team won't be a part of the bidding war for Japanese pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka.

 

Bavasi indicated Mariners owner Hiroshi Yamauchi had recently decided not to put in a bid for the rights to sign the 26-year-old right-handed pitcher.

 

"A decision has been made by Mr. Yamauchi," Bavasi said, "that we will not be participating in the bidding process."

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Buster Olney has an interesting take in his blog.

 

Link

 

The posting system is deeply flawed. For example, here's one sabotage scenario that might interest a team like Baltimore, which is faced with the possibility that Matsuzaka will land with either of the big market monsters in its division, the Yankees or the Red Sox. The Orioles could post a huge bid -- say $50 million -- and blow everybody else out of the water. With exclusive negotiating rights, they then could offer Matsuzaka a take-it-or-leave-it, strategically structured bid, like a 10-year, $5 million-per-year deal. Matsuzaka and agent Scott Boras, with just 30 days to negotiate and with no ability to generate a competing bid from another major league team, would have the stark choice of taking the Orioles' lowball offer or remaining in Japan.

 

If Matsuzaka came to the U.S. under those circumstances -- and that would seem very unlikely -- the Orioles would have a frontline pitcher for less than the total package that everybody expects it will cost to get Matsuzaka. And if he were to stay in Japan after such a lowball offer, the Orioles would get their posting fee back and would still serve their own purposes, as well, by keeping him out of the hands of the Red Sox and Yankees.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Someone has brought that up in the past, probably even this thread. The commissioner's office would probably get involved if someone made a very large posting bid without genuine intent to sign Matsuzaka to a decent deal.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Someone has brought that up in the past, probably even this thread. The commissioner's office would probably get involved if someone made a very large posting bid without genuine intent to sign Matsuzaka to a decent deal.

 

I guess the question would be what qualified for a genuine interest in signing him.

 

Would offering Matsuzuka a 6/30 deal qualify as genuine? I don't know and I don't know if the commisioner would agree or not.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Someone has brought that up in the past, probably even this thread. The commissioner's office would probably get involved if someone made a very large posting bid without genuine intent to sign Matsuzaka to a decent deal.

 

I guess the question would be what qualified for a genuine interest in signing him.

 

Would offering Matsuzuka a 6/30 deal qualify as genuine? I don't know and I don't know if the commisioner would agree or not.

 

Definitely, Daisuke has no room to complain about a 6/30 deal.