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Is this the 3rd or 4th time this year the Knicks have had problems with teams "running up the score"?

Yeah. it's a ridiculous accusation. The Knicks scored 19 points to the Bulls 20 in the 4th, and Skiles played a reserve lineup in the final quarter as well.

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What are the Bulls suppose to do miss shots on purpose, hold the ball till the shot clock expires? Games like this are important for our bench to keep fresh for the playoffs. Maybe if the Knicks wouldn't have turned the ball over 50 times they wouldn't have to worry about having their egos hurt.
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What are the Bulls suppose to do miss shots on purpose, hold the ball till the shot clock expires? Games like this are important for our bench to keep fresh for the playoffs. Maybe if the Knicks wouldn't have turned the ball over 50 times they wouldn't have to worry about having their egos hurt.

 

If I'm a Knicks fan, I'd actually want them to get blown out as much as possible.

 

Why would any fan want their team to appear to be better than they are? That just leads to a continuation of badness. Big changes must be made in New York. Whole world's known it for quite some time.

 

I think the Knicks players might find they are very, very alone on wanting other teams to take it easy on them.

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how ticked would you be if you knew the worse your team did, the better the bulls draft pick would be. and then they crush you like that.
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Didn't George Karl and Isiah get into this over the Nuggets supposedly running up the score or something? Or am I remembering it wrong?
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Didn't George Karl and Isiah get into this over the Nuggets supposedly running up the score or something? Or am I remembering it wrong?

 

That's supposedly what motivated the Knicks-Nuggets fight.

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What are the Bulls suppose to do miss shots on purpose, hold the ball till the shot clock expires? Games like this are important for our bench to keep fresh for the playoffs. Maybe if the Knicks wouldn't have turned the ball over 50 times they wouldn't have to worry about having their egos hurt.

 

If I'm a Knicks fan, I'd actually want them to get blown out as much as possible.

 

Why would any fan want their team to appear to be better than they are? That just leads to a continuation of badness. Big changes must be made in New York. Whole world's known it for quite some time.

 

I think the Knicks players might find they are very, very alone on wanting other teams to take it easy on them.

 

I've heard several Knicks fans make this same statement.

 

In a sport like basketball, when several points are scored every minute, it's really hard to bring up the running up the score claim, especially among the pros. A 100-6 high school game is different.

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how ticked would you be if you knew the worse your team did, the better the bulls draft pick would be. and then they crush you like that.

 

That would feel bad, but it would feel worse if I knew Isaiah might come back for another year of hell if my team has a good showing the last couple weeks of the year.

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I know I have been critical of Pax at times, but I will defend him to the end on the Eddy Curry trade. This guy is simply gutless. Right now he is tossing up 19PPG in garbage time, thats it.

 

He will never be a catalyst for a team that goes deep in the playoffs.

 

And if someonehow he is on a good enough team that does make it far, he will crumble like a little girl in the postseason

 

Garbage time? If you are thinking of their season as a whole yes. He is the leading scorer in the paint for the NBA. I'd take his 19 points and 7 rebs over Wallace's 7 points and 10 rebs anyday. Plus his contract is cheaper. At least this year it is. I know Wallace brings much more than his box score shows, but I still would rather have Curry. If Curry ever got motivated, man could he be a force.

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Garbage time? If you are thinking of their season as a whole yes. He is the leading scorer in the paint for the NBA. I'd take his 19 points and 7 rebs over Wallace's 7 points and 10 rebs anyday. Plus his contract is cheaper. At least this year it is.

Curry is also an atrocious defensive player.

 

I coundn't be happier with Wallace, Thomas and this year's Knicks lottery pick instead of Curry.

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I was critical of the Curry trade and I'm still not so sure about Wallace.

 

But I also find it difficult to believe Curry is suddenly going to find the desire within himself to truly be great. He seems to want to coast on his natural ability, not work hard every day to improve. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

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Wikipedia[/url]"]His favorite Chicago landmark is the Rock and Roll McDonalds.

 

I find this hilarious.

 

Would you rather have Tyrus' and Wallace's combined 11.5/14.5 or Curry's 19 and 7? Not to mention the blocks, steals, and intangibles that Ben and TT bring to the table. We have enough scoring from Loul/BG/Kirk. I am pretty comfortable in saying that we would be a worse team if we had stuck with Eddy.

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Wikipedia[/url]"]His favorite Chicago landmark is the Rock and Roll McDonalds.

 

I find this hilarious.

 

Would you rather have Tyrus' and Wallace's combined 11.5/14.5 or Curry's 19 and 7? Not to mention the blocks, steals, and intangibles that Ben and TT bring to the table. We have enough scoring from Loul/BG/Kirk. I am pretty comfortable in saying that we would be a worse team if we had stuck with Eddy.

 

I forgot that TT came in that deal. I like Aldridge - I wonder who becomes the better player. But remember that if the Bulls had Eddy the outside would open up even more for Ben. He might score more. If the Bulls somehow manage a good draft pick from the Knicks then the trade is even better. But straight up, I'd take Eddy over Big Ben.

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Wikipedia[/url]"]His favorite Chicago landmark is the Rock and Roll McDonalds.

 

I find this hilarious.

 

Would you rather have Tyrus' and Wallace's combined 11.5/14.5 or Curry's 19 and 7? Not to mention the blocks, steals, and intangibles that Ben and TT bring to the table. We have enough scoring from Loul/BG/Kirk. I am pretty comfortable in saying that we would be a worse team if we had stuck with Eddy.

 

I forgot that TT came in that deal. I like Aldridge - I wonder who becomes the better player. But remember that if the Bulls had Eddy the outside would open up even more for Ben. He might score more. If the Bulls somehow manage a good draft pick from the Knicks then the trade is even better. But straight up, I'd take Eddy over Big Ben.

 

Yeah, but that's not the question. (And even that claim is debatable). Would you rather have TT, Wallace, Sweetney (lol), and the Knicks pick this year or Eddy Curry? The answer is simple for me. I'd rather have Thomas alone than Curry.

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Wikipedia[/url]"]His favorite Chicago landmark is the Rock and Roll McDonalds.

 

I find this hilarious.

 

Would you rather have Tyrus' and Wallace's combined 11.5/14.5 or Curry's 19 and 7? Not to mention the blocks, steals, and intangibles that Ben and TT bring to the table. We have enough scoring from Loul/BG/Kirk. I am pretty comfortable in saying that we would be a worse team if we had stuck with Eddy.

 

That's not really a fair comparison. Curry plays 35 minutes a game and Wallace/Thomas combine for 48 minutes(35/13). There's a significant contractural difference as well.

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Had some pretty sweet seats last night at the Bulls game. Wish I wouldn't have left right after the buzzer sounded so I could have witnessed some of the happenings and gripes I'm reading about today - was sitting next to a real nutty broad and a prompt exit was desirable.

 

Random note, sat two rows in front of Kid n Play (late 80's, early 90's; House Party movies). Might have to think hard and reach into the way-back machine to place them. For the promotions/entertainment the UC was playing all this old music from early 90's (think that "Word Up" song). I really wanted to turn around and ask when their track was going to be played. Hilarious.

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That's not really a fair comparison. Curry plays 35 minutes a game and Wallace/Thomas combine for 48 minutes(35/13). There's a significant contractural difference as well.

How is it not fair? The Bulls wouldn't have had the cap space to sign Wallace if they hadn't traded Curry, and Thomas and this year's lottery pick were part of the package. Isiah Thomas got fleeced, which should come as a surprise to no one.

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That's not really a fair comparison. Curry plays 35 minutes a game and Wallace/Thomas combine for 48 minutes(35/13). There's a significant contractural difference as well.

How is it not fair? The Bulls wouldn't have had the cap space to sign Wallace if they hadn't traded Curry, and Thomas and this year's lottery pick were part of the package. Isiah Thomas got fleeced, which should come as a surprise to no one.

 

I was mainly referring to the Curry's points/rebs v. Wallace+Thomas points/rebs. I'm not trying to say that the trade was anything but a fleecing.

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Wikipedia[/url]"]His favorite Chicago landmark is the Rock and Roll McDonalds.

 

I find this hilarious.

 

Would you rather have Tyrus' and Wallace's combined 11.5/14.5 or Curry's 19 and 7? Not to mention the blocks, steals, and intangibles that Ben and TT bring to the table. We have enough scoring from Loul/BG/Kirk. I am pretty comfortable in saying that we would be a worse team if we had stuck with Eddy.

 

That's not really a fair comparison. Curry plays 35 minutes a game and Wallace/Thomas combine for 48 minutes(35/13). There's a significant contractural difference as well.

 

But it is fair to count all of their involvement (maybe not just adding the 2's averages together) because they were all combined in the value of this trade.

 

We fleeced the Knicks, pure and simple.

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I was mainly referring to the Curry's points/rebs v. Wallace+Thomas points/rebs. I'm not trying to say that the trade was anything but a fleecing.

Ah, I'm not a fan of simple points/rebounds comparisons either.

 

Given another year or two to develop, I suspect Thomas' production will outpace Curry's by a wide margin on its own.

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