FINAL SCORE (1) The Beatles-70 (1) Led Zeppelin-43

[Butterscup1679666578]

the who shouldn't even be in the conversation.

 

You're right. They're so much better than everyone else that this should just be a battle for 2nd best.

 

8)

 

Awesome and agreed.

[OleMissCub]

 

Yeah, I've heard both of them. They "rock" more than the Beatles early stuff, but there's still plenty of songs that aren't exactly hard rock.

 

Abbey Road has "Something", "Octopus's Garden", "Here Comes the Sun", "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window."

 

The White Album has "Ob-La-Di" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" - among others.

 

Not exactly headbangers ball material. Sorry, but nothing you can say will make me consider the Beates to be, at best, a pop/rock hybrid.

 

Are you saying that "WMGGW" is not a rock song?? That song has Eric Clapton going apesh*t on the guitar in it. I think it is one of their harder songs.

 

Second, "she came in through the bathroom window" and "mean mr. mustard" are just as hard as most of the stuff the Rolling Stones or The Doors put out during that time. Drums banging, guitars jangling, and bass pumping.

[OleMissCub]

If I were to take the two Led Zeppelin songs in their entire repertoire that sound the least alike, I bet you that I could find, on any Beatles album after Rubber Soul, two songs that are at least as far apart. And I betcha they'd both be good, too.

 

Now consider the fact that they did this all in about seven or eight years.

 

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They put out over 200 songs, nearly all of them self-written, and in only 7 years. How many bands these days take that long to come out with just two albums?

[SouthSideRyan]

 

Yeah, I've heard both of them. They "rock" more than the Beatles early stuff, but there's still plenty of songs that aren't exactly hard rock.

 

Abbey Road has "Something", "Octopus's Garden", "Here Comes the Sun", "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window."

 

The White Album has "Ob-La-Di" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" - among others.

 

Not exactly headbangers ball material. Sorry, but nothing you can say will make me consider the Beates to be, at best, a pop/rock hybrid.

 

Are you saying that "WMGGW" is not a rock song?? That song has Eric Clapton going apesh*t on the guitar in it. I think it is one of their harder songs.

 

Second, "she came in through the bathroom window" and "mean mr. mustard" are just as hard as most of the stuff the Rolling Stones or The Doors put out during that time. Drums banging, guitars jangling, and bass pumping.

 

Yeah I was really confused by this. I assumed he was listing the songs that people would consider rock, but why the hell are Here Comes the Sun and Ob-La-Di on there. (While neglecting A LOT of others) And as you addressed, it just doesn't seem possible to me to consider While my Guitar Gently Weeps or She Came in Through the Bathroom Window as non-rock.

[Burtonbell]

I thought there was no reason to vote after Metallica & Tool bowed out. Now if Zep loses...

[OleMissCub]

 

Yeah, I've heard both of them. They "rock" more than the Beatles early stuff, but there's still plenty of songs that aren't exactly hard rock.

 

Abbey Road has "Something", "Octopus's Garden", "Here Comes the Sun", "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window."

 

The White Album has "Ob-La-Di" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" - among others.

 

Not exactly headbangers ball material. Sorry, but nothing you can say will make me consider the Beates to be, at best, a pop/rock hybrid.

 

Are you saying that "WMGGW" is not a rock song?? That song has Eric Clapton going apesh*t on the guitar in it. I think it is one of their harder songs.

 

Second, "she came in through the bathroom window" and "mean mr. mustard" are just as hard as most of the stuff the Rolling Stones or The Doors put out during that time. Drums banging, guitars jangling, and bass pumping.

 

Yeah I was really confused by this. I assumed he was listing the songs that people would consider rock, but why the hell are Here Comes the Sun and Ob-La-Di on there. (While neglecting A LOT of others) And as you addressed, it just doesn't seem possible to me to consider While my Guitar Gently Weeps or She Came in Through the Bathroom Window as non-rock.

 

maybe he just went and found the silliest or sappiest sounding song titles and assumed they weren't rock? Paul's fuzz bass that he uses in "Mean Mr. Mustard" is outright sick as hell. I know so many bass players who goof around with that riff.

 

The thing about Zep is that they were all influential as individual performers...not so sure about Jones, but definitely the other 3. The Beatles, as shown by their sub-par (except for lennon) solo careers, worked best as a unit. However, Paul is definitely one of the most influential bass players of all rock history. He is one of the first, if not the first, bass players to play counter melody or counter backbeat. This really was first apparent on their amazing single "Rain". My father once remarked about how he and his buddies were so floored by the bass line in that song that they would turn the bass all the way up and the treble down just to hear that bass line. I think this stems from two things, first McCartney is a melodic genius, no one could deny that. Second, he started out as a guitar player and played lead during most of their days in Hamburg, so it seems natural he'd get bored playing backbeat.

[stitchface]

I don't know if I agree with you on the Beatles being a tighter band (if that's what you said). To me LZ was Jimmy Page genius with perfect matching parts. All were brilliant musicians but the band was far greater than any of the individuals.

[BigSlick]

Good music isn't based on how talented you are you, its primarily based on how well your write music.

 

Bonham is, IMO, the best drummer ever to pick up some sticks.

 

None of the Beatles were as extraordinarily talented as Page was with the gee-tar, but they could write some dang catchy tunes couldn't they?

 

For the record, I voted Zeppelin...but you can't say the Beatles don't rock.

 

Arguing talent is kinda pointless.

[MPrior]

I don't know if I agree with you on the Beatles being a tighter band (if that's what you said). To me LZ was Jimmy Page genius with perfect matching parts. All were brilliant musicians but the band was far greater than any of the individuals.

 

This is definitely true. But it can probably be said for any truly great band.

 

Edit to mention that While My Guitar Gently Weeps is among the most incredible songs ever.

[Soul]

Good music isn't based on how talented you are you, its primarily based on how well your write music.

 

Bonham is, IMO, the best drummer ever to pick up some sticks.

 

None of the Beatles were as extraordinarily talented as Page was with the gee-tar, but they could write some dang catchy tunes couldn't they?

 

For the record, I voted Zeppelin...but you can't say the Beatles don't rock.

 

Arguing talent is kinda pointless.

 

Yeah, I essentially agree. Color me suprised that the Beatles are opening this much of a margin though. I thought Zep had every bit as much influence, every bit the impact that the great Beatles had.

 

I voted Zep, but won't be upset that the Beatles win. Just a little suprised by the margin, that's all...

[MPrior]

I voted Zep, but won't be upset that the Beatles win. Just a little suprised by the margin, that's all...

 

Yeah, I thought this would be closer as well.

[YearofDaCubs]

I voted for the Beatles but both are damn good.

[Derwood]

I'm here to defend my bias.

 

When anyone makes a tournament, they must rank the four #1 seeds. My favorite rock band ever is Pink Floyd, and of the remaining three, my least favorite is the Stones. Thus, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin remain in the other matchup.

 

And saying the finals should be Beatles vs. LZ is only showing your bias, which isn't any more or less right than mine.

 

The Who being in the finals is a travesty

[CoolHandLuke]

I'm here to defend my bias.

 

When anyone makes a tournament, they must rank the four #1 seeds. My favorite rock band ever is Pink Floyd, and of the remaining three, my least favorite is the Stones. Thus, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin remain in the other matchup.

 

And saying the finals should be Beatles vs. LZ is only showing your bias, which isn't any more or less right than mine.

 

The Who being in the finals is a travesty

 

why?

[WindyCity]

I'm here to defend my bias.

 

When anyone makes a tournament, they must rank the four #1 seeds. My favorite rock band ever is Pink Floyd, and of the remaining three, my least favorite is the Stones. Thus, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin remain in the other matchup.

 

And saying the finals should be Beatles vs. LZ is only showing your bias, which isn't any more or less right than mine.

 

The Who being in the finals is a travesty

 

why?

 

Because ZZ Top was denied their rightful place in this tournament. :D

[BigSlick]

I'm here to defend my bias.

 

When anyone makes a tournament, they must rank the four #1 seeds. My favorite rock band ever is Pink Floyd, and of the remaining three, my least favorite is the Stones. Thus, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin remain in the other matchup.

 

And saying the finals should be Beatles vs. LZ is only showing your bias, which isn't any more or less right than mine.

 

The Who being in the finals is a travesty

 

why?

 

While I'm not saying its a travesty, I am incredibly surprised they are there.

 

And this is coming from someone in a facebook group called "Quadrophenia is the best album ever, etc."

[ZiggyTaxi]

I completely disagree that The Who being in the finals is a travesty. There is no way Pink Floyd belongs in the finals. I do not like Ummagumma.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm here to defend my bias.

 

When anyone makes a tournament, they must rank the four #1 seeds. My favorite rock band ever is Pink Floyd, and of the remaining three, my least favorite is the Stones. Thus, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin remain in the other matchup.

 

And saying the finals should be Beatles vs. LZ is only showing your bias, which isn't any more or less right than mine.

 

The Who being in the finals is a travesty

 

It's all matchups Derwood just like in the Big Dance.

[Derwood]

I'm here to defend my bias.

 

When anyone makes a tournament, they must rank the four #1 seeds. My favorite rock band ever is Pink Floyd, and of the remaining three, my least favorite is the Stones. Thus, The Beatles and Led Zeppelin remain in the other matchup.

 

And saying the finals should be Beatles vs. LZ is only showing your bias, which isn't any more or less right than mine.

 

The Who being in the finals is a travesty

 

It's all matchups Derwood just like in the Big Dance.

 

yes, and to me, a Pink Floyd vs. Beatles/LZ final was the most attractive.

[NewUserName]

Isnt it really just personnal taste anyway. Derwood ran the show and made the matchups. I will say though that If you are going to have Pink Floyd as the #1 overall seed because they are your favorite shouldnt you also not have the Stones as a #1 seed if you dont like them?

 

 

If this was taken as a World wide or National tournament I dont think a lot of what we precieve here at NSBB would be the overall answer. I dont think the Who would make any final four nor would Queen for that matter. Also sadly bands like Journey, REO Speedwagon, Kansas and Styx would be added to the tourney and doing better than most here would agree with.

 

Lastly I dont think how Derwood had the thing seeded is going to effect who gets first. It may effect how far some band gets but it isnt going to effect the overall winner. I would like to see how some other matchups would have gone. But whoever wins would be the winner no matter the matchups.

[Derwood]

We can have a "Bronze Medal Game" if you all want.

[Tracer Bullet]

We can have a "Bronze Medal Game" if you all want.

 

So Zeppelin can destroy Queen?

[TruffleShuffle]

 

Yeah, I've heard both of them. They "rock" more than the Beatles early stuff, but there's still plenty of songs that aren't exactly hard rock.

 

Abbey Road has "Something", "Octopus's Garden", "Here Comes the Sun", "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window."

 

The White Album has "Ob-La-Di" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" - among others.

 

Not exactly headbangers ball material. Sorry, but nothing you can say will make me consider the Beates to be, at best, a pop/rock hybrid.

 

Are you saying that "WMGGW" is not a rock song?? That song has Eric Clapton going apesh*t on the guitar in it. I think it is one of their harder songs.

 

Second, "she came in through the bathroom window" and "mean mr. mustard" are just as hard as most of the stuff the Rolling Stones or The Doors put out during that time. Drums banging, guitars jangling, and bass pumping.

 

Yeah I was really confused by this. I assumed he was listing the songs that people would consider rock, but why the hell are Here Comes the Sun and Ob-La-Di on there. (While neglecting A LOT of others) And as you addressed, it just doesn't seem possible to me to consider While my Guitar Gently Weeps or She Came in Through the Bathroom Window as non-rock.

 

maybe he just went and found the silliest or sappiest sounding song titles and assumed they weren't rock?

 

yeah, maybe he just thinks that songs with slow, moody guitar do not rock

[OleMissCub]

 

Yeah, I've heard both of them. They "rock" more than the Beatles early stuff, but there's still plenty of songs that aren't exactly hard rock.

 

Abbey Road has "Something", "Octopus's Garden", "Here Comes the Sun", "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window."

 

The White Album has "Ob-La-Di" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" - among others.

 

Not exactly headbangers ball material. Sorry, but nothing you can say will make me consider the Beates to be, at best, a pop/rock hybrid.

 

Are you saying that "WMGGW" is not a rock song?? That song has Eric Clapton going apesh*t on the guitar in it. I think it is one of their harder songs.

 

Second, "she came in through the bathroom window" and "mean mr. mustard" are just as hard as most of the stuff the Rolling Stones or The Doors put out during that time. Drums banging, guitars jangling, and bass pumping.

 

Yeah I was really confused by this. I assumed he was listing the songs that people would consider rock, but why the hell are Here Comes the Sun and Ob-La-Di on there. (While neglecting A LOT of others) And as you addressed, it just doesn't seem possible to me to consider While my Guitar Gently Weeps or She Came in Through the Bathroom Window as non-rock.

 

maybe he just went and found the silliest or sappiest sounding song titles and assumed they weren't rock?

 

yeah, maybe he just thinks that songs with slow, moody guitar do not rock

 

so Zep's "Kashmir" and "Stairway to Heaven" don't rock?

[TruffleShuffle]

so Zep's "Kashmir" and "Stairway to Heaven" don't rock?

 

 

Most of "Stairway" does not rock; "Kashmir" is hardly slow, moody guitar.