New NBA Playoffs Thread

[Outshined_One]

wow they shouldn't let that lady interview Shaq, she looks like a baby.

 

Like back in the day when Vince McMahon used to put Andre the Giant on a small platform to make him seem even taller than he really was.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

If someone could show me how Wade was fouled there I'd really appreciate it.

 

As would I.

 

I dont know exactly what hte foul was, but mavericks were all over him...

 

And whoever just tried to call that timeout is an idiot.

 

Nobody was "all over him." In fact, he wasn't even touched in any way that would result in a foul call.

 

Who cares. Wade isn't the first and won't be the last player to get calls in the NBA. It is not like Dirk hasn't gotten calls. Hell, Lebron had the most obvious travel go uncalled for a game winning shot earlier this year

 

The Mavs were still robbed. I think that is an awful justification.

Edited June 19, 2006 by CaliforniaRaisin

[Mark_R]

The refs handed that game to the Heat on a silver platter. And they barely won the game.

 

I'm sure Mark Cuban is going to get himself fined again.

 

HCA in the NBA is just ridiculous.

[Roast]

I would have had to laugh if Dirk would have injured his foot when he kicked that bike...

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I just watched that play again...Wade is out of control falling with the ball, and no one touches him.

 

Horrible!

 

First suspending Stackhouse and then that call. Ridiculous. Crap like that is why the NBA might as well be professional wrestling.

[Big Fergie J]

The Glove had a look on his face like, "How come no one wants to interview me...I hit a big shot ".

[Big Fergie J]

IMO, calls like Wade got are more the norm in the NBA than the exception.

 

Dirk &/or Terry would have gotten the same treatment.

[Butterscup1679666578]

What an idiot. Refs screwed us, but Howard misses two big free throws and then does that. H(*^(*&%^TUOIGH*)TGYUOIGH

 

Cubs - Haven't won since 1908. Lost Game 6 with me in attendance, show no signs of improving.

Bears - Only good every few years, born 1 year after the Super Bowl victory.

Mavs - Had fun watching a 2 win first half back in the mid-90s, never been to the Finals until now, blow a 2-0 lead.

Mizzou - Self-explanatory.

 

I hate sports.

[Mark_R]

I would have had to laugh if Dirk would have injured his foot when he kicked that bike...

 

Woulda been as much fun as watching Shaq "play" basketball.

 

This coming from a person who can respect Shaq's game. That doesn't mean I like it.

[Shavo]

The Mavs didnt get screwed, Josh Howard blew it.

 

Artest on Wade would sure be nice now. &)^)&%*%5rt!!!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

What an idiot. Refs screwed us, but Howard misses two big free throws and then does that. H(*^(*&%^TUOIGH*)TGYUOIGH

 

Cubs - Haven't won since 1908. Lost Game 6 with me in attendance, show no signs of improving.

Bears - Only good every few years, born 1 year after the Super Bowl victory.

Mavs - Had fun watching a 2 win first half back in the mid-90s, never been to the Finals until now, blow a 2-0 lead.

Mizzou - Self-explanatory.

 

I hate sports.

 

Daniel Gibson went pro today! Viva CMA!

[Mark_R]

What an idiot. Refs screwed us, but Howard misses two big free throws and then does that. H(*^(*&%^TUOIGH*)TGYUOIGH

 

Cubs - Haven't won since 1908. Lost Game 6 with me in attendance, show no signs of improving.

Bears - Only good every few years, born 1 year after the Super Bowl victory.

Mavs - Had fun watching a 2 win first half back in the mid-90s, never been to the Finals until now, blow a 2-0 lead.

Mizzou - Self-explanatory.

 

I hate sports.

 

Daniel Gibson went pro today! Viva CMA!

 

Beware Kevin Durant.

[jaydee]

If someone could show me how Wade was fouled there I'd really appreciate it.

 

As would I.

 

I dont know exactly what hte foul was, but mavericks were all over him...

 

And whoever just tried to call that timeout is an idiot.

 

Nobody was "all over him." In fact, he wasn't even touched in any way that would result in a foul call.

 

Who cares. Wade isn't the first and won't be the last player to get calls in the NBA. It is not like Dirk hasn't gotten calls. Hell, Lebron had the most obvious travel go uncalled for a game winning shot earlier this year

 

The Mavs were still robbed. I think that is an awful justification.

 

It is a perfectly fine justification. Terry or Dirk would have gotten the same call. It isn't like Wade is the only one getting the calls.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I fully believe the Mavs shot themselves in the you know what, but that last play by Wade with that phantom foul on Dirk was complete crap. I understand that Stern wants Wade as the next poster boy and the next Jordan, but come on. He shot 21-25 from the line BY HIMSELF. What did Dallas shoot from the line? 21-25 as a TEAM. I'm sorry, but Dirk gets knocked around more than anyone in the league, and no one gives him any calls, let alone phantom calls.

[Outshined_One]

Beware Kevin Durant.

 

That man is going to be an animal.

 

I'm soooooooooo looking forward to next year's NBA draft, especially if Isaiah takes over the Knicks' coaching job and coaches the team to 15 wins. :D

[Mark_R]

I fully believe the Mavs shot themselves in the you know what, but that last play by Wade with that phantom foul on Dirk was complete crap. I understand that Stern wants Wade as the next poster boy and the next Jordan, but come on. He shot 21-25 from the line BY HIMSELF. What did Dallas shoot from the line? 21-25 as a TEAM. I'm sorry, but Dirk gets knocked around more than anyone in the league, and no one gives him any calls, let alone phantom calls.

 

This is why home court advantage in the NBA is so important. The refs become guinea pigs to the home crowd.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Hopefully, Dallas takes care of business at home and wins this thing in seven.

[soccer10k]

We officially have a series now. This should be interesting to see if Dallas can regroup or if Miami can win one in Dallas. I think Game 6 is Miami's best shot. They have ALL the momentum right now and I don't think they want to play a Game 7. We'll have to wait and see.

[soccer10k]

Just to throw another stat out there from Elias. The last time a team won a Game 7 on the road in the World Series, Stanley Cup Finals, or NBA Finals was 1979 when the Pittsburgh Pirates beat the Baltimore Orioles to win the World Series.

[Andy]

Just to throw another stat out there from Elias. The last time a team won a Game 7 on the road in the World Series, Stanley Cup Finals, or NBA Finals was 1979 when the Pittsburgh Pirates beat the Baltimore Orioles to win the World Series.

What about a Game 6 on the road? :wink:

[Chocolate Milk]

Speaking of the refs, Game 5 of the Finals took its rightful place alongside Game 7 of the Seattle-Phoenix series in 1993, Game 6 of the Kings-Lakers series in 2002, Game 5 of the Knicks-Celtics series in 1973 and some of the other famous entries in the Pantheon of One-Sided Officiated Games. We're running some e-mails in a sidebar (look to the right), but you know it's bad when the owner of the losing team runs out onto the floor to stare down the commissioner after the game -- the last time that happened at a sporting event, Vince McMahon was involved.

 

(FYI: In today's Miami Herald, Greg Cote writes that Cuban was screaming profanely at referee Joe DeRosa right after the game, "then turned to Stern and other NBA officials who were seated at the scorer's table and was overheard to shout venomously in the jubilant din, '[bleep] you! [bleep] you! Your league is rigged!'" Remember when I wrote that, on a scale of 1-to-10 about being excited for the moment when Stern handed Cuban the trophy, I was a 35? Now I'm a 72. Although Cuban did deny saying this on his blog.)

 

I tackled this in a Cowbell blog last year, but it's worth rehashing again: The NBA doesn't fix games. That's impossible. And stupid. It could never happen. (Well, except for the Hubert Davis game -- that was fixed. Just kidding. Kind of.) A few months ago, I looked David Stern in the eye and asked him about the ongoing officiating problems, and he seemed agonized enough about it that I actually believed him. Unless he was pulling a DeNiro-level acting performance on me. Which I doubt. But there are three major problems here.

 

First, Dwyane Wade shot as many free throws (25) as the entire Dallas team in Game 5. I just don't see how there's any way this can happen in a fairly-called game. It's theoretically impossible.

 

Second, everyone knew the officiating would be a problem heading into this series because of Cuban's past problems with the league. In my Finals preview, I wrote that "No team depends on the refs quite like the Heat. When the refs are calling all the bumps on Shaq and protecting Wade on every drive, they're unstoppable. When they're calling everything fairly, they're eminently beatable. If they're not getting any calls, they're just about hopeless. I could see the refs swinging two games in Miami's favor during this series, possibly three. In fact, I'm already depressed about it and the series hasn't even started yet." Well, we had our two games -- Game 3 (the last five minutes were just obscene) and Game 5 (again, a top-five debacle). And the series isn't over yet.

 

Third, here's a theory on referees that I described in a blog last spring:

 

"I don't think the NBA fixes games, but they have one trick that they use for situations like this -- when they want a home team to win the game, they invariably assign the worst referees possible to that game for two reasons: Bad referees have a tendency to get swayed by the home crowd, and bad referees never have the stones to make a tough call on the road. In a related story, I went to 35 Clippers games this year and kept a list of the referees in my pocket which I also used to follow the referees for any televised games. And yes, the referees in the NBA -- as a whole -- have never been worse. But there were six referees that stuck out as being especially terrible."

 

Then I went on to list the worst six referees. Here was No. 2 on the list:

 

"2. Bennett Salvatore -- Always one of the worst, he took it to another level this season. If you see him on the court at the start of the game, get ready for about six technicals, two near-brawls and both coaches having to be restrained by their assistants at various times."

 

Why is this relevant? Not only did Salvatore officiate Game 4 of the Suns-Lakers series (the one where Kobe tied it at the end of regulation and won it at the end of OT on two shaky non-calls on Nash, both by Salvatore), not only did Salvatore officiate Sunday night's Game 5 (in which Miami had a 40-12 free-throw advantage at one point), but Salvatore called the foul on Wade's final drive in overtime (remember, the call where ABC couldn't find a replay to show that anyone touched him?) even though he was standing at midcourt a full 35-40 feet from the play, and even though two other refs were closer to the play. Not only was that NOT his call, he butchered it.

 

Considering I brought this up LAST spring, do you find any of this a little strange? Why aren't the best referees calling these games? Why do the worst ones always seem to get assigned to games in which it would be better for the league if the home team won? Why am I the only one who notices this stuff or seems to care? Why do I find myself watching these games and concentrating more on the one-sided officiating than some of Wade's spectacular plays? As my buddy House e-mailed on Monday morning: "I don't think I can take much more of NBA refs insisting on controlling the outcomes of the most significant games. The NBA is a disgrace and should be completely embarrassed. I hate this game."

 

And that's coming from one of the last 19 NBA diehards -- I can only imagine what the casual fans thought after watching such a one-sided travesty. Look, we all love Dwyane Wade. He's fantastic. But there's absolutely no scenario in which a 2-guard should be attempting as many free throws as everyone on the other team. It's absolutely unfathomable. And here's what really kills me: If there's a Game 7, you KNOW they'll come up with the best possible officials for that particular game. So why wouldn't every Finals game work like that? We have seven possible games spread over 17 days ... they couldn't pick the best three or four refs and have them work every game, like how MLB picks the best seven umps to comprise the World Series crew? Why wouldn't that work? Is there a single reason you can come up with? Arrrrrrrrgh.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Kudos, Sports Guy.

[Big Fergie J]

I'm thinking that Mark Cuban needs to take a backseat for awhile...he is becoming a huge distraction.

 

BTW---- does anybody really read Bill Simmons anymore.....come on.....his "schtick " is very tired

[Big Fergie J]

Kudos, Sports Guy.

 

Respectfully disagree, Simmons is last years news.

[Big Fergie J]

I never get tired of MJ &/or BULLS win hi-lites........yesssssssss