The Corey Patterson Thread

[srbin84]

Corey has always been a coachable kid and quiet sometimes to a fault.

 

Though he did speak up enough to say he thought he was a "#6 type hitter"...and oh, how we and the local press mocked.

 

Curses!

 

He's a No. 2 hitter now.

[Sammy Sofa]

Corey has always been a coachable kid and quiet sometimes to a fault.

 

Though he did speak up enough to say he thought he was a "#6 type hitter"...and oh, how we and the local press mocked.

 

Curses!

 

He's a No. 2 hitter now.

 

When did they move him into that slot? I could swear he started doing well for Baltimore hitting down in the lineup.

[Sammy Sofa]

Stop blaming our coaching staff then! That's been the point since the beginning. Don't make it sound like Elia made him a better line drive hitter when his SLG percentage, which isn't even that great now, is even lower when you take out his bunt hits....let alone his infield hits (which he has quite a few of this year). OK, this is getting ridiculous. How hard is it to my point? I can't stand watching you all say the above when it's just not true. I don't like Hendry, Baker or any of the other coaches and want them gone, but it's ignorant to make statements defaming them and giving others false praise when it's all a bunch of bologna.

 

I'm completely missing your point. So Patterson's imrpovements are, what, solely the result of things he did by himself? Change of scenery? Crab cakes? Magic?

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Corey has always been a coachable kid and quiet sometimes to a fault.

 

Though he did speak up enough to say he thought he was a "#6 type hitter"...and oh, how we and the local press mocked.

 

Curses!

 

He's a No. 2 hitter now.

 

When did they move him into that slot? I could swear he started doing well for Baltimore hitting down in the lineup.

 

He bats seventh in the line up.

[Sammy Sofa]

Corey has always been a coachable kid and quiet sometimes to a fault.

 

Though he did speak up enough to say he thought he was a "#6 type hitter"...and oh, how we and the local press mocked.

 

Curses!

 

He's a No. 2 hitter now.

 

When did they move him into that slot? I could swear he started doing well for Baltimore hitting down in the lineup.

 

He bats seventh in the line up.

 

Now I feel less crazy. Thanks.

[abuck1220]

here's a shocker...hendry doesn't believe that it's anyone's fault that corey sucked in chicago and is good in baltimore...

 

"It's hard to pinpoint the reasons why it got away from him."

 

He also absolved manager Dusty Baker of using him as a leadoff man, a move that seemed to magnify Patterson's offensive struggles.

 

Were Patterson's hitting coaches, Gary Matthews and Gene Clines, to blame?

 

"No, it's a tough thing to put your finger on," Hendry said. "Everybody tried to work with him. We had a lot of good coaches that tried to help players, maybe Corey finally has gotten to the point where maybe he knew. Maybe he didn't quite believe in some of the things that were trying to be approached, even back as far as when he came up with Jeff Pentland, who's a great hitting coach."

 

"Besides Gary and Gene, Dusty has a great hitting coach background, so it wasn't like people didn't try it. I'm sure Corey wouldn't say they didn't try to help him. Sometimes it just clicks later, and sometimes you have to overcome some things yourself.

 

fits right in w/ the organization's "it's out of our hands" mystical, karma-fueled, bad break-ridden excuse factory.

[TXCubsFan]

Corey has always been a coachable kid and quiet sometimes to a fault.

 

Though he did speak up enough to say he thought he was a "#6 type hitter"...and oh, how we and the local press mocked.

 

Curses!

 

He's a No. 2 hitter now.

 

When did they move him into that slot? I could swear he started doing well for Baltimore hitting down in the lineup.

 

He bats seventh in the line up.

 

Now I feel less crazy. Thanks.

 

In some ways, I understand the Cubs' desire to see if he would make a good #1-#3 hitter. In the NL, his speed and ability to steal bases are wasted batting #7.

 

Corey has to take a fair share of the responsibility for his lack of success in Chicago. I have seen very few major league players consistently swing at the bad pitches he did in 2004 and 2005.

 

The Cubs at last seem to be learning that OBP and bunting need to be taught at the minor league level. I think Pie's struggles at the plate this year have been his belated instruction in these skills by the Cubs coaching staff.

 

I'm glad Corey has found a home in Baltimore and wish him continued success.

[UK1679666180]

fits right in w/ the organization's "it's out of our hands" mystical, karma-fueled, bad break-ridden excuse factory.

 

I hope they did some self-evaluation, anytime a player that didn't work out and yet finds success elsewhere is reason enough to re-examine what was done and what could've been done differently as a situation like what happened to Corey might happen again.

 

I don't know how they tried to change Corey's approach so I'm unclear the impact it had on him. The best way to move on is to not let it happen again.

[CuseCubFan69]

here's a shocker...hendry doesn't believe that it's anyone's fault that corey sucked in chicago and is good in baltimore...

 

"It's hard to pinpoint the reasons why it got away from him."

 

He also absolved manager Dusty Baker of using him as a leadoff man, a move that seemed to magnify Patterson's offensive struggles.

 

Were Patterson's hitting coaches, Gary Matthews and Gene Clines, to blame?

 

"No, it's a tough thing to put your finger on," Hendry said. "Everybody tried to work with him. We had a lot of good coaches that tried to help players, maybe Corey finally has gotten to the point where maybe he knew. Maybe he didn't quite believe in some of the things that were trying to be approached, even back as far as when he came up with Jeff Pentland, who's a great hitting coach."

 

"Besides Gary and Gene, Dusty has a great hitting coach background, so it wasn't like people didn't try it. I'm sure Corey wouldn't say they didn't try to help him. Sometimes it just clicks later, and sometimes you have to overcome some things yourself.

 

fits right in w/ the organization's "it's out of our hands" mystical, karma-fueled, bad break-ridden excuse factory.

 

Well I wonder how many bad hop singles Corey has in Baltimore so far? These guys have to take some responsibility for this mess and I'm really sick of these lame excuses.

[Chocolate Milk]

fits right in w/ the organization's "it's out of our hands" mystical, karma-fueled, bad break-ridden excuse factory.

 

Pitchers were making clutch pitches against Corey all last year. It was just a tough break.

[CuseCubFan69]

fits right in w/ the organization's "it's out of our hands" mystical, karma-fueled, bad break-ridden excuse factory.

 

I hope they did some self-evaluation, anytime a player that didn't work out and yet finds success elsewhere is reason enough to re-examine what was done and what could've been done differently as a situation like what happened to Corey might happen again.

 

I don't know how they tried to change Corey's approach so I'm unclear the impact it had on him. The best way to move on is to not let it happen again.

 

But the excuses worry me. Do they really think that "dems da breaks" or can they really re-examine themselves? Do they just have one train of thought and no matter what think that's the direction to go? Can Hendry adapt and really learn the game and how to be a successful GM or is he happy with what he already knows and that's it?

[E.J.]

fits right in w/ the organization's "it's out of our hands" mystical, karma-fueled, bad break-ridden excuse factory.

 

Pitchers were making clutch pitches against Corey all last year. It was just a tough break.

 

Corey hit a lot of balls right at people last year, and there were a lot of pitches that somehow just missed his bat. Sometimes you just go through the tough breaks.

[UK1679666180]

But the excuses worry me. Do they really think that "dems da breaks" or can they really re-examine themselves? Do they just have one train of thought and no matter what think that's the direction to go? Can Hendry adapt and really learn the game and how to be a successful GM or is he happy with what he already knows and that's it?

 

I don't know, dealing with media quotes can be separate from what is going on behind the scenes. Give Balt. and Patterson credit for his improvements and hope the Cubs have taken something from this beyond what they rec'd in return.

[CuseCubFan69]

But the excuses worry me. Do they really think that "dems da breaks" or can they really re-examine themselves? Do they just have one train of thought and no matter what think that's the direction to go? Can Hendry adapt and really learn the game and how to be a successful GM or is he happy with what he already knows and that's it?

 

I don't know, dealing with media quotes can be separate from what is going on behind the scenes. Give Balt. and Patterson credit for his improvements and hope the Cubs have taken something from this beyond what they rec'd in return.

 

I'm with you there. I HAVE to hope that Hendry can learn and adapt.

[soccer10k]

Corey has always been a coachable kid and quiet sometimes to a fault.

 

Though he did speak up enough to say he thought he was a "#6 type hitter"...and oh, how we and the local press mocked.

 

Curses!

 

He's a No. 2 hitter now.

 

When did they move him into that slot? I could swear he started doing well for Baltimore hitting down in the lineup.

 

He bats seventh in the line up.

 

Corey has 11 AB's batting #1, 6 AB's batting #5, 101 AB's batting #6, 75 AB's batting #7, 44 AB's batting #8 and 21 AB's batting #9.

 

Here are his splits for each spot in the order.

[soccer10k]

Stop blaming our coaching staff then! That's been the point since the beginning. Don't make it sound like Elia made him a better line drive hitter when his SLG percentage, which isn't even that great now, is even lower when you take out his bunt hits....let alone his infield hits (which he has quite a few of this year). OK, this is getting ridiculous. How hard is it to my point? I can't stand watching you all say the above when it's just not true. I don't like Hendry, Baker or any of the other coaches and want them gone, but it's ignorant to make statements defaming them and giving others false praise when it's all a bunch of bologna.

 

And if you take out his home runs, that will surely do a number on his SLG percentage. As Pedro said, you can't just take out some of his hits to prove your point.

[Guest]

newsflash: srbin has been banned. Just to be clear, it wasn't for his idiotic arguments or the way he made them. 1908 discovered that this was a previously banned poster who came back in through a different IP.

 

 

That said, you all can probably stop trying to win the argument against him. ;)

[Ding Dong Johnson]

newsflash: srbin has been banned. Just to be clear, it wasn't for his idiotic arguments or the way he made them. 1908 discovered that this was a previously banned poster who came back in through a different IP.

 

 

That said, you all can probably stop trying to win the argument against him. ;)

 

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[Derwood]

sweet, what was his old banned screen name? Inquiring minds want to know!

[Guest]

sweet, what was his old banned screen name? Inquiring minds want to know!

I'll leave that for the sleuths to reveal.

[UMFan83]

Can you at least tell us who Modzilla is? We need some dirt in this thread.

[Garwilly]

sweet, what was his old banned screen name? Inquiring minds want to know!

I'll leave that for the sleuths to reveal.

Well keep in mind he had the whole "provoking people to attack you so they can be killed in self defense" thing going on. Sounded very familiar to a certain "drunk driving" thread.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

sweet, what was his old banned screen name? Inquiring minds want to know!

I'll leave that for the sleuths to reveal.

 

I'm thinking he did have a "Realist"ic view on things.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

sweet, what was his old banned screen name? Inquiring minds want to know!

I'll leave that for the sleuths to reveal.

Well keep in mind he had the whole "provoking people to attack you so they can be killed in self defense" thing going on. Sounded very familiar to a certain "drunk driving" thread.

 

Srbin84 supposedly showed up at the May bleacher get-together. From descriptions, I don't think he was ZZ.

[Magnetic Curses]

corey's not really the player in baltimore that we wanted him to be in chicago. he was actually more productive in 2004 than he's been this season.

 

i hope he continues his solid play for the orioles, but his ceiling is probably that of a torii hunter and not a carlos beltran. i hope he reaches it, but it probably wouldn't be helping here much.