srbin84

I'd take Renteria and his salary off their hands and give them Cedeno and Guzman or Hill. It makes sense if we're trying to win now. Stripping 10 mil salary for this year and over 20 next year for those two plus getting 2 very good prospects makes a lot of sense for Atlanta. I'd be flexible on the prospects to get the deal done too, if it took Pie too, fine. They can find other guys in free agency and address the positions they want with their money, or they can just play their young players and rebuild. SS Renteria 2B Walker (if we have him back) 1B Lee CF A. Jones 3B Ramirez RF J. Jones C Barrett LF Murton

Though he did speak up enough to say he thought he was a "#6 type hitter"...and oh, how we and the local press mocked. Curses! He's a No. 2 hitter now.

Stop blaming our coaching staff then! That's been the point since the beginning. Don't make it sound like Elia made him a better line drive hitter when his SLG percentage, which isn't even that great now, is even lower when you take out his bunt hits....let alone his infield hits (which he has quite a few of this year). OK, this is getting ridiculous. How hard is it to my point? I can't stand watching you all say the above when it's just not true. I don't like Hendry, Baker or any of the other coaches and want them gone, but it's ignorant to make statements defaming them and giving others false praise when it's all a bunch of bologna.

I don't think nearly 20% of his hits last year were bunt singles.

But if you take away his bunt hits....ah forget it. Not liking it doesn't make it go away corey's numbers aren't the only thing that's true of Sorry for pointing out the truths some people can't/don't want to accept. I think Dobson's statistics pretty much debunked your whole premise. But if you want to keep thinking that Patterson's renaissance is only due to bunt hits, go right ahead. It makes about as much sense as your claim that it has helped his SLG%. Believe it or not, singles calculate into SLG% too. Take Corey's bunt hits/attempts out and his SLG goes down.

But if you take away his bunt hits....ah forget it. Not liking it doesn't make it go away corey's numbers aren't the only thing that's true of Sorry for pointing out the truths some people can't/don't want to accept.

But if you take away his bunt hits....ah forget it. Not liking it doesn't make it go away...ah forget it, Patterson for MVP and Prior for Cy Young because we like them so much.

Finally the Bulls got a good big man, and it couldn't be a better player at a better time. He's a perfect fit for the Bulls. Unquestionably the best defensive team in the NBA now with Wallace plus our two picks. I've enjoyed watching this Bulls team come together. It's been a very LONG road, but I think we're ready to start competing for titles again.

false. Look at Patterson's numbers when he isn't bunting for a base hit. Awful. What's the point? What does it prove? It proves he has a horrible batting average when you take away his hits. This is the last post I'm going to make on the subject in this thread, but yes, that's it. Plus, OBP and SLG.

that's not true. 2004-2006 LD%: 2004: 19.1% 2005: 17.7% 2006: 22.0% his HR/F is also higher this year: 2004: 12.5% 2005: 10.7% 2006: 12.8% THT It's probably even more exaggerated now, but I calculated his numbers minus his bunt hits and bunt hit attempts, and the numbers weren't pretty. A large portion of his hits this year are bunt singles. A smaller separate portion are infield singles (speed). He's basically Juan Pierre with a little more power.

Don't forget "I can do your job, but you can't do mine so stop criticizing me"

I can agree with that.

Come on now, not many people in the big leagues are smaller than Z. Agreed. Z is above all laws of human genetics. Little known fact-he's also immortal, and he killed Bill Brasky with his bare hands.

false. Look at Patterson's numbers when he isn't bunting for a base hit. Awful. What's the point? What does it prove? I think of hitting and bunting as two completely different things. If you look at Patterson's improved AVG., OBP, and SLG, it's much more to do with his improved bunting than improved hitting because the hitting hasn't improved much. He's bunting more and more successful when attempts to do so. As far as I remember, the Cubs wanted him to bunt more. For whatever reason, he didn't do it as much and as well at the same time as he is doing now. It's not all the Cubs coaches fault like people make it out to be, unless you are making the argument that the Cubs didn't want Corey to bunt as much as he is now. Crediting an improved ability to hit line drives and such for his better numbers is just flat out false.

I remember a very deserving pitcher in 1998 who got shafted too. Instead, that team, which was a winning one BTW, had one rep., who was injured.