Most overpaid player in the league?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

How many SS out OPS'd Jeter last year? Tejada? Young?

 

Add Peralta to that list, and Felipe Lopez was very close. Peralta, Young, Lopez and Tejada combined don't make what Jeter makes. You can disagree if you wish, but Jeter is my choice for most overpaid player in baseball.

Jeter is overpaid but he's still a valuable player, unlike Beltre, who has turned into a useless pile of puke.

 

He always was one. He turned into a ballplayer for a season. Seattle's pretty stupid.

[NewUserName]

carlos beltran had a .744 ops last year. If I remember right his contract is in the 16 million range

[Derwood]

I liked the Marlins paying Hampton to beat their ass with the Braves.

[CubinNY]

I believe that Richard Hildalgo parlayed a great year into a huge contract with the Astros, but I am not sure how much.

 

Then there was Mo Vaughn with the Mets.

 

The Mets had a lot of bad contracts during the Phillips era.

[rocket]

jeter has the rings so he's worth every penny

[soccer10k]

How many SS out OPS'd Jeter last year? Tejada? Young?

 

Add Peralta to that list, and Felipe Lopez was very close. Peralta, Young, Lopez and Tejada combined don't make what Jeter makes. You can disagree if you wish, but Jeter is my choice for most overpaid player in baseball.

Jeter is overpaid but he's still a valuable player, unlike Beltre, who has turned into a useless pile of puke.

 

If you needed a big hit at the end of the game, who else on the Yankees would you want batting other than Jeter? What about in the league, with the exception of David Ortiz? Jeter ALWAYS comes through for his team. I'm not saying that he isn't overpaid, because I do think he is. But if you factor in that he's on the Yankees, I don't think you can consider him the most overpaid player. He would only be making 10-12 mil if he was on any other team.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

How many SS out OPS'd Jeter last year? Tejada? Young?

 

Add Peralta to that list, and Felipe Lopez was very close. Peralta, Young, Lopez and Tejada combined don't make what Jeter makes. You can disagree if you wish, but Jeter is my choice for most overpaid player in baseball.

Jeter is overpaid but he's still a valuable player, unlike Beltre, who has turned into a useless pile of puke.

 

If you needed a big hit at the end of the game, who else on the Yankees would you want batting other than Jeter? What about in the league, with the exception of David Ortiz? Jeter ALWAYS comes through for his team.

 

Career regular season: 314/.386/.461/.847

Career playoffs: .306/.376/.462/.838

 

3 year splits:

 

Overall: .307/.377/.458/.835

 

Bases empty: .304/.370/.474/.844

 

w/ RISP: .288/.380/.405/.785

Close and Late: .249/.352/.392/.744

[goonys evil twin]

Jeter ALWAYS comes through for his team.

 

No he doesn't. Not even close. The two best things about Jeter is he's relatively productive for his position, and he's consistently productive (for the most part). He's not particularly clutch. He doesn't ALWAYS come through. He's just a really good offensive SS, and a questionable defensive SS. He's grossly overpaid. Just because he's on the Yankees doesn't change that fact. If Beltre was on the Yankees and doing what he's doing, he'd still be overpaid. You can't just disqualify a guy from the discussion because he's on a team that can afford him. Heck, every team can afford a bust, because they all have one to some extent or another.

[Derwood]

How many SS out OPS'd Jeter last year? Tejada? Young?

 

Add Peralta to that list, and Felipe Lopez was very close. Peralta, Young, Lopez and Tejada combined don't make what Jeter makes. You can disagree if you wish, but Jeter is my choice for most overpaid player in baseball.

Jeter is overpaid but he's still a valuable player, unlike Beltre, who has turned into a useless pile of puke.

 

If you needed a big hit at the end of the game, who else on the Yankees would you want batting other than Jeter? What about in the league, with the exception of David Ortiz? Jeter ALWAYS comes through for his team.

 

Career regular season: 314/.386/.461/.847

Career playoffs: .306/.376/.462/.838

 

3 year splits:

 

Overall: .307/.377/.458/.835

 

Bases empty: .304/.370/.474/.844

 

w/ RISP: .288/.380/.405/.785

Close and Late: .249/.352/.392/.744

 

Stop ruining the common misconceptions of the baseball populace with facts!

 

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. A-Rod's stats show that he is actually very good in the postseason despite being labeled as a playoff choker in recent years.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

p.s. A-Rod's stats show that he is actually very good in the postseason despite being labeled as a playoff choker in recent years.

 

Career Playoffs: .305/.393/.534/.927

[SouthSideRyan]

Bah, I blame ESPN's slow load times for TT beating me to the #s. What you don't realize though TT, is that all those outs that he made were PRODUCTIVE OUTS~!

[jjgman21]

Odalis Perez had a 4.56 ERA in 109 IP and is getting almost 9 million this year.

 

Hmm. You haven't studied how Odalis does in even years, I see. :wink:

 

He very well could be worth every penny of his 9m if he pitches this year like he has in all of his previous "even" years.

 

Odalis has only had 1 bad outing out of 3 so far. In his last 12+ innings, he's given up 2 runs. .071 WHIP in his last outing.

 

*cough cough* Reggie Sanders *cough cough*

[TB_11]

I'd give a nod to the Yankees front four:

 

Randy Johnson, $16M/year

Mike Mussina, $15M/year

Carl Pavano, $10M/year

Jaret Wright, $7M/year

[soccer10k]

Jeter ALWAYS comes through for his team.

 

No he doesn't. Not even close. The two best things about Jeter is he's relatively productive for his position, and he's consistently productive (for the most part). He's not particularly clutch. He doesn't ALWAYS come through. He's just a really good offensive SS, and a questionable defensive SS. He's grossly overpaid. Just because he's on the Yankees doesn't change that fact. If Beltre was on the Yankees and doing what he's doing, he'd still be overpaid. You can't just disqualify a guy from the discussion because he's on a team that can afford him. Heck, every team can afford a bust, because they all have one to some extent or another.

 

I'm not disqualifying him. I'm just saying to put it in perspective. $19 mil for the Yankees isn't the same as $19 mil for any other team. That's my point. The Yankees will pay people more because they know they can. I would consider Beltre much more overpaid.

 

As for Jeter being clutch, two home runs in the World Series against the Diamondbacks and countless other big hits. Stats don't tell the whole story. Honestly, who else would you want up to bat in a crucial situation? I would pick David Ortiz over Jeter but Jeter would be number 2.

[goonys evil twin]

As for Jeter being clutch, two home runs in the World Series against the Diamondbacks and countless other big hits. Stats don't tell the whole story.

 

Are you freaking kidding me? They lost that series, so obviously he didn't clutch up enough. You want to talk about random stuff like that, how about throwing in Leyritz. The only reason Jeter has lots of big hits in the playoffs is because he's a good hitter who has played lots of playoff games. He's also had a lots of times he's made big outs (offensively, not defensively) in playoff games because he's played lots of playoff games. I'd rather have the better hitter, which in any given game is usually somebody other than Jeter.

[soccer10k]

As for Jeter being clutch, two home runs in the World Series against the Diamondbacks and countless other big hits. Stats don't tell the whole story.

 

Are you freaking kidding me? They lost that series, so obviously he didn't clutch up enough. You want to talk about random stuff like that, how about throwing in Leyritz. The only reason Jeter has lots of big hits in the playoffs is because he's a good hitter who has played lots of playoff games. He's also had a lots of times he's made big outs (offensively, not defensively) in playoff games because he's played lots of playoff games. I'd rather have the better hitter, which in any given game is usually somebody other than Jeter.

 

They didn't lose that series because of Jeter. They would have lost in 5 (I think, it might have been 4) without those two homeruns.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Honestly, who else would you want up to bat in a crucial situation? I would pick David Ortiz over Jeter but Jeter would be number 2.

 

I could easily think of several dozen hitters I'd rather have up than Jeter.

[soccer10k]

Honestly, who else would you want up to bat in a crucial situation? I would pick David Ortiz over Jeter but Jeter would be number 2.

 

I could easily think of several dozen hitters I'd rather have up than Jeter.

 

Care to name a few? I would also take Pujols also.

[BigbadB]

Odalis Perez had a 4.56 ERA in 109 IP and is getting almost 9 million this year.

 

Hmm. You haven't studied how Odalis does in even years, I see. :wink:

 

He very well could be worth every penny of his 9m if he pitches this year like he has in all of his previous "even" years.

 

Odalis has only had 1 bad outing out of 3 so far. In his last 12+ innings, he's given up 2 runs. .071 WHIP in his last outing.

 

*cough cough* Reggie Sanders *cough cough*

 

What, are you going to chase me around in every thread with Reggie Sanders? :D

 

As I repeated in the other thread, I didn't want Reggie Sanders, Jose Cruz, Jacque Jones, Juan Encarnacion or any other guy in RF.

 

But, if it came down to Jacque Jones for 3 years or Reggie Sanders for 1 year, I'd take Reggie Sanders everyday and twice on Sunday.

 

One other point as to why Reggie might have settled on a 1 year deal over the 2 year deal you claim he signed in KC. What if the Cubs 1 year offer was for the same amount that KC gave him for 2 years? Would he turn that down, also? What if the Cubs offer was for 1 year guaranteed and an option for a 2nd year?

 

Bottom line, I wanted the Cubs to make a strong play for Giles. If not Giles, then Milton Bradley, Austin Kearns, Brad Wilkerson, Aubrey Huff, etc...

[BigbadB]

As for Jeter being clutch, two home runs in the World Series against the Diamondbacks and countless other big hits. Stats don't tell the whole story.

 

Are you freaking kidding me? They lost that series, so obviously he didn't clutch up enough. You want to talk about random stuff like that, how about throwing in Leyritz. The only reason Jeter has lots of big hits in the playoffs is because he's a good hitter who has played lots of playoff games. He's also had a lots of times he's made big outs (offensively, not defensively) in playoff games because he's played lots of playoff games. I'd rather have the better hitter, which in any given game is usually somebody other than Jeter.

 

They didn't lose that series because of Jeter. They would have lost in 5 (I think, it might have been 4) without those two homeruns.

 

But if Jeter is "that" clutch, why did the Yankees lose?

[BigbadB]

And if he's "so" clutch, how have they lost the last several World Series?

[rocket]

Honestly, who else would you want up to bat in a crucial situation? I would pick David Ortiz over Jeter but Jeter would be number 2.

 

I could easily think of several dozen hitters I'd rather have up than Jeter.

 

Care to name a few? I would also take Pujols also.

excluding ortiz and pujols:

 

derrek lee, a-rod, travis hafner, manny ramirez, carlos delgado, todd helton, jason giambi, jason bay, vladimir guerrero, mark teixeira, miguel cabrera, ken griffey jr, morgan ensberg, lance berkman, adam dunn, aramis ramirez, andruw jones, jim edmonds, chase utley, david wright, chad tracy, richie sexson, paul konerko, brian giles, brian roberts, michael young, pat burrell, gary sheffield, jeff kent, geoff jenkins, nick johnson, jhonny pheralta, troy glaus, david delluci, bobby abreu, matt holliday, miguel tejada, mike sweeney, cliff floyd, hideki matsui, randy winn, jason varitek, victor martinez, and jermaine dye.

[Rob]

Honestly, who else would you want up to bat in a crucial situation? I would pick David Ortiz over Jeter but Jeter would be number 2.

 

I could easily think of several dozen hitters I'd rather have up than Jeter.

 

Care to name a few? I would also take Pujols also.

excluding ortiz and pujols:

 

derrek lee, a-rod, travis hafner, manny ramirez, carlos delgado, todd helton, jason giambi, jason bay, vladimir guerrero, mark teixeira, miguel cabrera, ken griffey jr, morgan ensberg, lance berkman, adam dunn, aramis ramirez, andruw jones, jim edmonds, chase utley, david wright, chad tracy, richie sexson, paul konerko, brian giles, brian roberts, michael young, pat burrell, gary sheffield, jeff kent, geoff jenkins, nick johnson, jhonny pheralta, troy glaus, david delluci, bobby abreu, matt holliday, miguel tejada, mike sweeney, cliff floyd, hideki matsui, randy winn, jason varitek, victor martinez, and jermaine dye.

 

And I'm not sure I wouldn't take a few people coming out of retirement...

 

Larry Walker certainly... maybe even Tony Gwynn or Don Mattingly

[soccer10k]

And if he's "so" clutch, how have they lost the last several World Series?

 

When was the last time Jeter threw a pitch for the Yankees? Can Jeter take every at bat for his team? This isn't basketball and one player can't win a World Series for his team. So don't give me that BS argument.

[soccer10k]

Honestly, who else would you want up to bat in a crucial situation? I would pick David Ortiz over Jeter but Jeter would be number 2.

 

I could easily think of several dozen hitters I'd rather have up than Jeter.

 

Care to name a few? I would also take Pujols also.

excluding ortiz and pujols:

 

derrek lee, a-rod, travis hafner, manny ramirez, carlos delgado, todd helton, jason giambi, jason bay, vladimir guerrero, mark teixeira, miguel cabrera, ken griffey jr, morgan ensberg, lance berkman, adam dunn, aramis ramirez, andruw jones, jim edmonds, chase utley, david wright, chad tracy, richie sexson, paul konerko, brian giles, brian roberts, michael young, pat burrell, gary sheffield, jeff kent, geoff jenkins, nick johnson, jhonny pheralta, troy glaus, david delluci, bobby abreu, matt holliday, miguel tejada, mike sweeney, cliff floyd, hideki matsui, randy winn, jason varitek, victor martinez, and jermaine dye.

 

And I'm not sure I wouldn't take a few people coming out of retirement...

 

Larry Walker certainly... maybe even Tony Gwynn or Don Mattingly

 

And what exactly have all of those players done in the postseason or in clutch situations in general to make them so scary? I'm would be afraid if I was a pitching in an important situation if Ortiz, Pujols or Jeter was coming up. Would I be afraid if ARod was coming up? No because I know ARod gets all of his HR's and RBI in 15-2 blowouts of the Devil Rays. It depends on situations. Is Jeter the best hitter in the league? No. But he comes through in the clutch. Maybe not every time, but nobody does.