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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

 

Very true, I didn't think of it that way, still waaay overpaid IMO.

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

I disagree strongly. They aren't average workers. They are unique elite workers in an industry with strong demand from the consumers. Practically anybody in the country could do what the average American worker does, there's a miniscule supply of labor for baseball players.

 

BS, they get paid to play a Sport.....and a ton of money at that. I agree with Derwood on this.

 

They're paid what the market allows them to be paid, just like every other profession.

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

 

I spent several years with a Fortune 100 company as a project manager and could easily quantify how much money I saved or made the company. Many of them over the years were in the millions, and one topped out at $27 million. My salary was $48,000. Baseball players are overpaid.

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

 

I spent several years with a Fortune 100 company as a project manager and could easily quantify how much money I saved or made the company. Many of them over the years were in the millions, and one topped out at $27 million. My salary was $48,000. Baseball players are overpaid.

 

could anyone else have done your job?

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

 

I spent several years with a Fortune 100 company as a project manager and could easily quantify how much money I saved or made the company. Many of them over the years were in the millions, and one topped out at $27 million. My salary was $48,000. Baseball players are overpaid.

 

could anyone else have done your job?

 

You beat me to the point Treeman.

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

 

I spent several years with a Fortune 100 company as a project manager and could easily quantify how much money I saved or made the company. Many of them over the years were in the millions, and one topped out at $27 million. My salary was $48,000. Baseball players are overpaid.

 

could anyone else have done your job?

 

Can Adrian Beltre, Chan Ho park, etc. be replaced? Of course someone eventually could do my job, but I've been gone nearly 2 years and still have people calling because of the incompetence that replaced me. ANYBODY can be replaced. That rule is universal.

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

 

I spent several years with a Fortune 100 company as a project manager and could easily quantify how much money I saved or made the company. Many of them over the years were in the millions, and one topped out at $27 million. My salary was $48,000. Baseball players are overpaid.

 

could anyone else have done your job?

 

Can Adrian Beltre, Chan Ho park, etc. be replaced? Of course someone eventually could do my job, but I've been gone nearly 2 years and still have people calling because of the incompetence that replaced me. ANYBODY can be replaced. That rule is universal.

 

your business apparently made a mistake, just as baseball teams did when they gave chan ho park and adrian beltre big contracts.

 

im going to guess that you were a little more replaceable than a major league baseball player though.

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your business apparently made a mistake, just as baseball teams did when they gave chan ho park and adrian beltre big contracts.

 

im going to guess that you were a little more replaceable than a major league baseball player though.

 

How are baseball players less replaceable? Every year players retire, and every year new ones come in to take their place. By saying they are not replaceable, there would be zero talent on the fields right now as it all should have dissipated decades ago.

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considering what the average major leaguer makes compared to the average american worker, I would say that they are all overpaid

 

But when you consider how much money they are bringing in, it's only fair to them that they have high salaries. Remember that baseball is a business. Nobody comes to the park to see the owners, they come to see the players.

 

I spent several years with a Fortune 100 company as a project manager and could easily quantify how much money I saved or made the company. Many of them over the years were in the millions, and one topped out at $27 million. My salary was $48,000. Baseball players are overpaid.

 

Bad luck that the Player's Union didn't have your back.

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your business apparently made a mistake, just as baseball teams did when they gave chan ho park and adrian beltre big contracts.

 

im going to guess that you were a little more replaceable than a major league baseball player though.

 

How are baseball players less replaceable? Every year players retire, and every year new ones come in to take their place. By saying they are not replaceable, there would be zero talent on the fields right now as it all should have dissipated decades ago.

 

Are you kidding here? How many active major-leaguers are there? How many people in this country are there? Maybe one in a million people will actually become a big league ballplayer. I don't know how many people could do your job, but I'll bet it's a lot more than that. The difference is due to scarcity.

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your business apparently made a mistake, just as baseball teams did when they gave chan ho park and adrian beltre big contracts.

 

im going to guess that you were a little more replaceable than a major league baseball player though.

 

How are baseball players less replaceable? Every year players retire, and every year new ones come in to take their place. By saying they are not replaceable, there would be zero talent on the fields right now as it all should have dissipated decades ago.

 

Are you kidding here? How many active major-leaguers are there? How many people in this country are there? Maybe one in a million people will actually become a big league ballplayer. I don't know how many people could do your job, but I'll bet it's a lot more than that. The difference is due to scarcity.

 

Exactly.

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I would argue that teachers and doctors are more valuable to our society than atheletes or movie stars but that argument is like beating my head against a wall
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And before anyone responds with anybody can play baseball just at varying skill levels, you can say the same thing about any job anywhere. I would be just awful at being a mechanic, but it doesn't mean I couldn't do the job. Same thing with baseball, you could conceivably play professional baseball,(that is you have the ability to swing a bat and stand in the field with a glove) but whether you can play professional baseball at a level that would make the owners and in turn you money is highly doubtful. The same way I could conceivably be a mechanic, but there's no doubt I could do the job well enough to get any customers to come to me more than once.
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Well, it's not about value, it's about scarcity. A lot of people could be a teacher, fewer could be a doctor, but far fewer than either of those could actually be a big league ballplayer.
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I would argue that teachers and doctors are more valuable to our society than atheletes or movie stars but that argument is like beating my head against a wall

 

Their skills are not as scarce.

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your business apparently made a mistake, just as baseball teams did when they gave chan ho park and adrian beltre big contracts.

 

im going to guess that you were a little more replaceable than a major league baseball player though.

 

How are baseball players less replaceable? Every year players retire, and every year new ones come in to take their place. By saying they are not replaceable, there would be zero talent on the fields right now as it all should have dissipated decades ago.

 

Are you kidding here? How many active major-leaguers are there? How many people in this country are there? Maybe one in a million people will actually become a big league ballplayer. I don't know how many people could do your job, but I'll bet it's a lot more than that. The difference is due to scarcity.

 

Exactly.

 

Yes. I'm actually thinking of writing an article on this for my school's national business review. Baseball players might actually be underpaid from an economic standpoint. Considering the amount of revenue they bring in for their "company" (MLB), they take home a smaller share than professionals in other fields, such as sales or banking.

 

They're not of more value than most members of society: doctors, lawyers, teachers, politicians, millitary, etc. However, in terms of the money they bring in and the share they get of that, I don't think it's as skewed as you think.

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How do you suggest doctors and teachers make more money? Increase taxes so that middle class families suffer even more? Increase private school tuition to astronomical rates? Make insurance premiums so ridiculous that no lower class individual could afford them? Somebody has to pay these people, and the services that they provide, while invaluable, are not suited towards high pay.
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Well as long as teachers are underpaid then you have to live by the old "you get what you pay for" rule when it comes to our kids' education
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Well as long as teachers are underpaid then you have to live by the old "you get what you pay for" rule when it comes to our kids' education

 

Because of ridiculously powerful teacher's unions, my high school had to beg the community for a tax hike (in a referendum) when several mediocre teachers at my school were making well over $100,000/year. This included 2 gym teachers, with salaries of $130,000 andm $150,000. PE Teachers!

 

I know it's not like this outside of the north shore, but whenever teachers ask for raises, I just get angry thinking about my school. :)

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Well as long as teachers are underpaid then you have to live by the old "you get what you pay for" rule when it comes to our kids' education

 

I don't really think teacher salary is the issue here. European nations achieve better results with less money allocated. For that matter, American private schools tend to achieve better results with lower teacher pay.

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05 numeros:

 

Derek Jeter: (we'll be close and say 20 mil) .389/.450/.839

 

Carlos Beltran (17 mil): .330/.414/.744

 

Huh, guess Jeter isn't the most overpaid. His buddy on the other side of town is much worse.

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05 numeros:

 

Derek Jeter: (we'll be close and say 20 mil) .389/.450/.839

 

Carlos Beltran (17 mil): .330/.414/.744

 

Huh, guess Jeter isn't the most overpaid. His buddy on the other side of town is much worse.

 

ehhh, jeter's got a better park to hit in and beltran provides a lot more defensive value

 

i'd say it's awfully close, and that's only if you look ONLY at 2005. i suspect things will be different this year.

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