Pie being brought up?

[CUBZ99]

Don't days spent on the 60 day DL count as major league service time? Not that it should be our chief concern, but it's not a great idea to start the arb. clock on Dope already so we can have Restovich for 60 days. RELEASE BYNUM.

 

I agree with Bynum, he looks horrible at the plate and even worse in the field.

[stitchface]

I don't understand the argument against bringing Pie up. The Cubs need to win games and if he is the best available player, then he should be the one to come up. I'm tired of them making up excuses or fans making excuses for not putting the best possible team on the field.

 

Is there some sort of stat that those against Pie are relying on, that says if Player A is called up to the majors and spends 10 of his 15 games on the bench his career will be ruined? Or such % of players that spent a whole season in AAA ball are better than players who called called up with only a partial season?

 

Sure you don't want Pie riding the bench the whole year, but if they need someone for 15 days, imo you take your best available player.

 

 

well, he already missed all of the second half of next year, he's very young, very promising and still working on the skills that will make him a major league player. while spending some time on the bench won't hurt him too much in all likelihood, he also likely wouldn't help the cubs much in that role. if you bring him up, you burn an option year, you start his service time, and you take away learning time from him. You have to weigh how much he helps the team win versus those factors. I'm for waiving Bynum - particularly after last night.

[Guest]

if you bring him up, you burn an option year, you start his service time, and you take away learning time from him.

His option year was burned when he was sent to Iowa. We can call him up and send him back down as many times as we want this year and it won't impact how many option years he has left.

[stitchface]

if you bring him up, you burn an option year, you start his service time, and you take away learning time from him.

His option year was burned when he was sent to Iowa. We can call him up and send him back down as many times as we want this year and it won't impact how many option years he has left.

 

yea, not thinking clearly this morning. of course if he is on the 40 man an option year is burned.

[Mizzou]

I'm all for bringing Pie up. The primary goal is to win games, and if he helps us do that more than anyone else, it'd be stupid to not call him up.

[soccer10k]

I'm all for bringing Pie up. The primary goal is to win games, and if he helps us do that more than anyone else, it'd be stupid to not call him up.

 

Yeah, if Pie is the best option available then we should bring him up. We shouldn't bring him up just for the sake of doing so. We need Pie to play whether that is on the Chicago or Iowa Cubs.

[Fro]

Yep, and with Pagan probably DLed, Jacque maybe DLed (and struggling at the least), and Mabry dinged up, I think Pie will get a decent amount of ABs at least for the next week or so if he's called up.

 

I really doubt they'll let him rot on the bench.

[BigbadB]

I certainly have no attachment to Bynum in any way. After watching him loaf after that fly ball last night, I'm perfectly fine with him being gone. What does Dusty do? Rewards him with a start.

 

And there was Aramis standing there admiring his deep fly ball that DIDN'T clear the fence. If he was thrown out at 2nd, I would have been sitting him today as well.

 

I get so sick of the lack of hustle. I don't care who it is. Aramis is one of my favorite players, but there is no excuse for standing there admiring a ball that isn't even going to leave the park. This is not an individual performance contest. This is a team event. For the good of the team, you hustle. Plain and simple. And I'm peaved at Dusty for rewarding laziness.

[Jehrico]

I am not for bringing up Pie. Sure he looks great and his numbers thus far are good too, but he has only really had @ 1/2 of a good season above A ball.

He's only had a half of a season above A ball, period.

[Blueheart05]

I just heard on WGN radio that the Cubs are calling up Aardsma. Pagan has officially been placed on the DL.

[TXCubsFan]

I just heard on WGN radio that the Cubs are calling up Aardsma. Pagan has officially been placed on the DL.

 

From what I saw of his performance last night, I think the call up was the right decision.

[Jehrico]

Yeah, but I don't think it's a good idea in this particular case. While Dopirak's injury is serious, he'll still only be out for two months or so. When he's healed and ready to come back we'd have a new roster crunch trying to figure out who to remove so Dope can start playing again. In essence, we'd just be pushing the same roster decision two months down the road.

 

I don't agree that putting the decision off is a bad thing. It might be a hard decision now, but it might be easier in a couple of months. Maybe Rusch's arm falls of, or someone gets dumb and decides they want to trade for Neifi. If there's no clear solution to the problem, go ahead and delay it 60 days or more and see how it plays out.

 

That said, I don't think it's a hard decision...get rid of Bynum and bring up Sing and Theriot.

[BCVM22]

I just heard on WGN radio that the Cubs are calling up Aardsma. Pagan has officially been placed on the DL.

 

This worries me. Not only because we're going to be short on outfield depth now, but I fear that Aardsma's gonna get the "12th man" treatment, i.e. sit in the bullpen without work, and then every 2 weeks when Dusty gives him an inning, he's going to struggle.

[Blueheart05]

I just heard on WGN radio that the Cubs are calling up Aardsma. Pagan has officially been placed on the DL.

 

This worries me. Not only because we're going to be short on outfield depth now, but I fear that Aardsma's gonna get the "12th man" treatment, i.e. sit in the bullpen without work, and then every 2 weeks when Dusty gives him an inning, he's going to struggle.

 

I dont see it happening; the rotation is too thin. Everyone in the bullpen will be worked until the starters begin going deeper in games.

[CuseCubFan69]

I feel bad for Pagan. He finally gets a chance and this happens.

 

I don't want Pie up until July at the earliest and that's if the Cubs have exhausted every opportunity to make a deal for a RF. The beauty part is they can deal Pierre at any time since he wasn't signed as a free agent.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I just heard on WGN radio that the Cubs are calling up Aardsma. Pagan has officially been placed on the DL.

 

Sounds good to me. Jones is available off the bench. Mabry is going to be fine. Our bench is ok.

 

We really do need an arm Dusty can abuse in the pen to take the load off Williamson, Eyre, Howry, and Dempster.

[Omar]

Aardsma up? So that's 13 pitchers?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Aardsma up? So that's 13 pitchers?

 

12.

 

Sp's: Zambrano, Maddux, Rusch, Williams, Marshall

Bullpen: Dempster, Howry, Eyre, Williamson, Ohman, Novoa, Aardsma.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Aardsma up? So that's 13 pitchers?

 

12.

 

Sp's: Zambrano, Maddux, Rusch, Williams, Marshall

Bullpen: Dempster, Howry, Eyre, Williamson, Ohman, Novoa, Aardsma.

Anyone know Aardsma's AAA numbers for this season?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Anyone know Aardsma's AAA numbers for this season?

 

5 Appearances

7 IP

2 Hits

0 Walks

11 K's

2 Saves

[soccer10k]

Anyone know Aardsma's AAA numbers for this season?

 

5 Appearances

7 IP

2 Hits

0 Walks

11 K's

2 Saves

 

Gotta love that. I can't wait to see how he does at the ML level for us.

[Omar]

Thank god. I've always wanted to see Aardsma in the majors. Giants really got ripped in that deal. LaTroy Hawkins for Jerome Williams and first round draft pick, David Aardsma. He is #1 when you line up every pro baseball player alphabetically, and I hear he's gotta nasty knucklecurve.

[Roast]

Well, I'm pretty sure that the common consensus here will be (i havent read the whole thread, just the first few posts) that he should stay down in the Minors to get some more work. But like Serena said back on page 1, if hes going to be starting, then by all means bring him up. If he tears it up, then maybe Baker lets him stay in that position even after Jones is ready. If not, then so be it, he can go back down and continue playing in the minors.

 

I just dont want him sitting on the bench.

[soccer10k]

Well, I'm pretty sure that the common consensus here will be (i havent read the whole thread, just the first few posts) that he should stay down in the Minors to get some more work. But like Serena said back on page 1, if hes going to be starting, then by all means bring him up. If he tears it up, then maybe Baker lets him stay in that position even after Jones is ready. If not, then so be it, he can go back down and continue playing in the minors.

 

I just dont want him sitting on the bench.

 

That's the key. As long as Pie is getting AB's, I don't care where he's playing. If he stinks it up in the majors, then send him back down. But the worst case scenario is Pie sitting on the bench. That doesn't tell the Cubs anything about him and it doesn't help Pie improve at all.

[Mark Priors Calves]

Hopefully Jones is going to be able to play everyday and his injury is healed.