Fish

[BeerHere]

I just noticed that the Marlins staff has 5 former cubs. Nolasco made the team in the pen, Willis and Mitre and starting, Jobo and Welly are also in the pen. Willis and Mitre are pitching ok. Nolasco hasn't given up a run yet. Welly and Jobo have been hit hard.

 

1-6 to start the season.

[srbin84]

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was going to be another discussion about fish analogies, haha. Pierre has worked out for us too. I still say it's a good trade for both teams. Edited April 12, 2006 by srbin84

[sweetpeteman]

Looking like its Fried Fish

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

[badger1679666666]

Nolasco gave up 4 hits, a BB and 1 ER + an inherited runner in 1 2/3 IP today. Mitre wasn't very good yesterday and Borowski gave up 3 runs yesterday.

[BigbadB]

I saw a graphic earlier today in the Fish game. There are currently 12 major league players that are making more money this year than the entire 25 man Marlin roster. Fact!

 

The graphic had the Marlins roster at 15m.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Can we change the thread title to Florida or Miami's baseball team or something like that? I'm extremely hungry for seafood now.

[Coach C]

Hmm... other than Willis, the Marlins haven't had much luck with Cub players, if I am not mistaken.

 

On the other hand, Lee has been a wonderful for the Cubs, and for now, Pierre have done a good job so far.

[srbin84]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

 

OBP and OPS don't always tell the whole story.

 

Pierre has 6 runs and 2 RBI in 7 games. That projects to 139 runs and 46 RBI. That's 31 runs above his career high and 22 more than his best season's combination of runs and RBI. He's doing a great job of helping us score runs right now. That's the name of the game.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

 

OBP and OPS don't always tell the whole story.

 

Pierre has 6 runs and 2 RBI in 7 games. That projects to 139 runs and 46 RBI. That's 31 runs above his career high and 22 more than his best season's combination of runs and RBI. He's doing a great job of helping us score runs right now. That's the name of the game.

 

Runs and RBI are dependent on the people around you. If he weren't hitting so terribly, or if we had someone else there that wasn't hitting terribly, we'd have more runs and RBI from that spot.

[srbin84]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

 

OBP and OPS don't always tell the whole story.

 

Pierre has 6 runs and 2 RBI in 7 games. That projects to 139 runs and 46 RBI. That's 31 runs above his career high and 22 more than his best season's combination of runs and RBI. He's doing a great job of helping us score runs right now. That's the name of the game.

 

Runs and RBI are dependent on the people around you. If he weren't hitting so terribly, or if we had someone else there that wasn't hitting terribly, we'd have more runs and RBI from that spot.

 

Yeah, of course he won't keep this pace up, and it is dependent on other players as well, but the speed factor comes in when you are saying someone hitting a little better would have done better.

[abuck1220]

has pierre hit the ball out of the infield this week?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

 

OBP and OPS don't always tell the whole story.

 

Pierre has 6 runs and 2 RBI in 7 games. That projects to 139 runs and 46 RBI. That's 31 runs above his career high and 22 more than his best season's combination of runs and RBI. He's doing a great job of helping us score runs right now. That's the name of the game.

 

Runs and RBI are dependent on the people around you. If he weren't hitting so terribly, or if we had someone else there that wasn't hitting terribly, we'd have more runs and RBI from that spot.

 

Yeah, of course he won't keep this pace up, and it is dependent on other players as well, but the speed factor comes in when you are saying someone hitting a little better would have done better.

 

I'm not sure I agree, but that's beside the original point, that it's way to early to use this season's performance to evaluate the deal.

[soccer10k]

I think another former Marlin has worked out well for us. I think his name is Derrek Lee? I'm not sure on the stats but I've heard that he's a decent first baseman. Any truth to this?

[BigbadB]

I think another former Marlin has worked out well for us. I think his name is Derrek Lee? I'm not sure on the stats but I've heard that he's a decent first baseman. Any truth to this?

 

Skimming threads? That point was brought up in this thread already. :wink:

[soccer10k]

I think another former Marlin has worked out well for us. I think his name is Derrek Lee? I'm not sure on the stats but I've heard that he's a decent first baseman. Any truth to this?

 

Skimming threads? That point was brought up in this thread already. :wink:

 

<- Guilty.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

 

OBP and OPS don't always tell the whole story.

 

Pierre has 6 runs and 2 RBI in 7 games. That projects to 139 runs and 46 RBI. That's 31 runs above his career high and 22 more than his best season's combination of runs and RBI. He's doing a great job of helping us score runs right now. That's the name of the game.

 

Runs and RBI are dependent on the people around you. If he weren't hitting so terribly, or if we had someone else there that wasn't hitting terribly, we'd have more runs and RBI from that spot.

 

Transmogrified Tiger;

 

You see stats, and say Pierre has been terrible, I see Juan Pierre who has change how a team attacks the Cubs. Like today....Lee and Pierre did TWO double steals :shock: (When was the last time THAT happen?), and he forced Womack to hurry up his throw, which ended up being an error. Pierre is clearly having an impact, and "doing pretty solid" job so far for the Cubs. Look, normal April is when pitchers are ahead of hitters, so I am not worry, cause I know Pierre is going to start hitting, soon.

[CuseCubFan69]

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was going to be another discussion about fish analogies, haha. Pierre has worked out for us too. I still say it's a good trade for both teams.

 

I was hoping it was about Abe Virgoda....the best actor in the history of the world.

[Jehrico]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

 

OBP and OPS don't always tell the whole story.

 

Pierre has 6 runs and 2 RBI in 7 games. That projects to 139 runs and 46 RBI. That's 31 runs above his career high and 22 more than his best season's combination of runs and RBI. He's doing a great job of helping us score runs right now. That's the name of the game.

 

Runs and RBI are dependent on the people around you. If he weren't hitting so terribly, or if we had someone else there that wasn't hitting terribly, we'd have more runs and RBI from that spot.

 

Yes, but they're not 100% dependent. You have to get on base to score a run, and 139 runs scored would be purdy darned good in any lineup, even the best the Yanks or BoSox have ever put up.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I had fried catfish for supper.

[Jehrico]

]I just noticed that the Marlins staff has 5 former cubs[/b]. Nolasco made the team in the pen, Willis and Mitre and starting, Jobo and Welly are also in the pen. Willis and Mitre are pitching ok. Nolasco hasn't given up a run yet. Welly and Jobo have been hit hard.

 

1-6 to start the season.

 

They also have a former Cub for a manager!

[Coach C]

I had fried catfish for supper.

 

Meow?

 

I got nuffin.

[katway]

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was going to be another discussion about fish analogies, haha. Pierre has worked out for us too. I still say it's a good trade for both teams.

 

I was hoping it was about Abe Virgoda....the best actor in the history of the world.

 

http://bushisamoron.org/du/timm_abe_vigoda_w_mr.jpg

 

Abe Vigoda - the latest addition to Mount Rushmore.

[CoolHandLuke]

Pierre has worked out for us too.

 

How can you say that? It's only been 7 games, and Pierre hasn't been very good in them, terrible actually.

 

OBP and OPS don't always tell the whole story.

 

Pierre has 6 runs and 2 RBI in 7 games. That projects to 139 runs and 46 RBI. That's 31 runs above his career high and 22 more than his best season's combination of runs and RBI. He's doing a great job of helping us score runs right now. That's the name of the game.

 

Runs and RBI are dependent on the people around you. If he weren't hitting so terribly, or if we had someone else there that wasn't hitting terribly, we'd have more runs and RBI from that spot.

 

Yes, but they're not 100% dependent. You have to get on base to score a run, and 139 runs scored would be purdy darned good in any lineup, even the best the Yanks or BoSox have ever put up.

 

And Juan has not done that very well so far this year, so what is your point?

[katway]

Pierre has been a factor thus far even if his performance hasn't always been great. When he gets on base, the pitchers seem to lose focus on the batter and he makes things happen. In addition, his work ethic seems like a great influence on the youngsters. Thus far, he appears to be the best leadoff hitter we've had since Lofton.

 

Given his career averages, he'll likely improve on BA and OBP and be an even bigger factor. A couple bad games can inordinately skew numbers at this point in the year. (A few days ago his BA was near .350 and his OBP was near .400.)