Jeff Weaver

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The Miller signing apparently ends any pursuit the Cubs may or may not have of Jeff Weaver.

 

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Hendry anticipates that this will be his final pitching addition before spring training. He doesn't plan to get involved in bidding for expensive free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver, who supposedly turned down three-years, $24.5 million to stay with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Even if Weaver is forced to settle somewhere for a one-year deal, the Cubs don't envision getting involved.

 

[Blueheart05]

The Miller signing apparently ends any pursuit the Cubs may or may not have of Jeff Weaver.

 

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Hendry anticipates that this will be his final pitching addition before spring training. He doesn't plan to get involved in bidding for expensive free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver, who supposedly turned down three-years, $24.5 million to stay with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Even if Weaver is forced to settle somewhere for a one-year deal, the Cubs don't envision getting involved.

 

 

I'm more excited about Miller. Weaver was just someone to keep us in games but if healthy, Miller maybe dominating. With the Cubs off of his short list, his demands will certainly have to go down. One of the other teams will probably get him relatively cheap for one year.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I heard Rosenthal interviewed on The Show with Kevin Kennedy and Rob Dibble. They discussed Weaver, and Rosenthal said if he ends up with a one year deal, he should have accepted the Dodgers offer of arbitration. At least in that case, he'd pitching somewhere he's comfortable and would have made 10-12 million through arbitration.

 

Boras may have screwed him up pretty badly.

[MustangMike]

The Miller signing apparently ends any pursuit the Cubs may or may not have of Jeff Weaver.

 

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Hendry anticipates that this will be his final pitching addition before spring training. He doesn't plan to get involved in bidding for expensive free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver, who supposedly turned down three-years, $24.5 million to stay with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Even if Weaver is forced to settle somewhere for a one-year deal, the Cubs don't envision getting involved.

 

 

I'm more excited about Miller. Weaver was just someone to keep us in games but if healthy, Miller maybe dominating. With the Cubs off of his short list, his demands will certainly have to go down. One of the other teams will probably get him relatively cheap for one year.

 

I don't know about you, but I'm sick of "If healthy" be attached to every player on this team, especially pitching. Its like we are the Red Cross of the MLB. 90+ years and we are hoping 2 guys will be healthy enough to pitch, and counting on a 40 year old broken down maddux. I hate being a pessimist this early, but for the money, the pitching scares me.

[CuseCubFan69]

The Miller signing apparently ends any pursuit the Cubs may or may not have of Jeff Weaver.

 

Link

 

Hendry anticipates that this will be his final pitching addition before spring training. He doesn't plan to get involved in bidding for expensive free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver, who supposedly turned down three-years, $24.5 million to stay with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Even if Weaver is forced to settle somewhere for a one-year deal, the Cubs don't envision getting involved.

 

 

I'm more excited about Miller. Weaver was just someone to keep us in games but if healthy, Miller maybe dominating. With the Cubs off of his short list, his demands will certainly have to go down. One of the other teams will probably get him relatively cheap for one year.

 

I don't know about you, but I'm sick of "If healthy" be attached to every player on this team, especially pitching. Its like we are the Red Cross of the MLB. 90+ years and we are hoping 2 guys will be healthy enough to pitch, and counting on a 40 year old broken down maddux. I hate being a pessimist this early, but for the money, the pitching scares me.

 

It leaves the injury excuse to be used again yet one more time.

[Blueheart05]

The Miller signing apparently ends any pursuit the Cubs may or may not have of Jeff Weaver.

 

Link

 

Hendry anticipates that this will be his final pitching addition before spring training. He doesn't plan to get involved in bidding for expensive free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver, who supposedly turned down three-years, $24.5 million to stay with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Even if Weaver is forced to settle somewhere for a one-year deal, the Cubs don't envision getting involved.

 

 

I'm more excited about Miller. Weaver was just someone to keep us in games but if healthy, Miller maybe dominating. With the Cubs off of his short list, his demands will certainly have to go down. One of the other teams will probably get him relatively cheap for one year.

 

I don't know about you, but I'm sick of "If healthy" be attached to every player on this team, especially pitching. Its like we are the Red Cross of the MLB. 90+ years and we are hoping 2 guys will be healthy enough to pitch, and counting on a 40 year old broken down maddux. I hate being a pessimist this early, but for the money, the pitching scares me.

 

I understand the frustration but this is the way it is, for now. The 2007 rotation will be minus Maddux and most likely Wood will be gone as well (there is a mutual option). At least in Miller the Cubs have the opportunity to strike gold. If he's a bust they can always go with the guys that have been here all along (Williams, Rusch, Hill, etc).

[RockTheIvy]

I like the Miller signing, don't get me wrong. But I agree with Mustang that it leaves the "if healthy" clause attached to our pitching staff. I am interested in what JH is going to do with our pitching staff. We have about 15 Major league arms and they can't all pitch for the Cubs.

[MustangMike]

 

I understand the frustration but this is the way it is, for now. The 2007 rotation will be minus Maddux and most likely Wood will be gone as well (there is a mutual option). At least in Miller the Cubs have the opportunity to strike gold. If he's a bust they can always go with the guys that have been here all along (Williams, Rusch, Hill, etc).

 

You are right, and I don't hate the Miller signing in any way, I just think the direction of this team is so muddled they don't know which way is up. Everything always is a long shot....wait till 2008, hell we'll be AWESOME that year. I've been saying that stuff since High school and for some reason this year, I just feel like i've lost that eternal hope. I watch the stadium get rebuilt, tickets go up, and JJ in Right field...that's probably what's it. Have you tried to add up the 100 million dollar payroll, its a joke these players equal that amount.

[CubinNY]

The Miller signing apparently ends any pursuit the Cubs may or may not have of Jeff Weaver.

 

Link

 

Hendry anticipates that this will be his final pitching addition before spring training. He doesn't plan to get involved in bidding for expensive free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver, who supposedly turned down three-years, $24.5 million to stay with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Even if Weaver is forced to settle somewhere for a one-year deal, the Cubs don't envision getting involved.

 

 

I'm more excited about Miller. Weaver was just someone to keep us in games but if healthy, Miller maybe dominating. With the Cubs off of his short list, his demands will certainly have to go down. One of the other teams will probably get him relatively cheap for one year.

 

I don't know about you, but I'm sick of "If healthy" be attached to every player on this team, especially pitching. Its like we are the Red Cross of the MLB. 90+ years and we are hoping 2 guys will be healthy enough to pitch, and counting on a 40 year old broken down maddux. I hate being a pessimist this early, but for the money, the pitching scares me.

 

It leaves the injury excuse to be used again yet one more time.

 

Exactly

[Neuby]

I love the Miller signing but if Weaver can be had under 10 million for one year I would still strike a deal with him. Weaver will be ready April first and still hasn't shown how good he can be.

Prior

Zambrano

Wood/Miller

Maddux

Weaver

 

odds are one of Miller or Wood is pen bound plus we don't know if either will be anything but league average coming off there injuries. We should be able to create a nice package of pitching for a bat come July or June.[/i]

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Looks like the Angels are now showing some interest in Weaver if he's willing to sign a short-term deal.

 

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The Angels have expressed serious interest in free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver, but a deal to sign the former Dodger right-hander could hinge on Weaver's willingness to accept a short-term contract.

 

The article also mentions there is interest from the Cardinals and Mets, but Weaver prefers to stay on the West Coast.

[Inthecards]

i would take weaver for the cards....that would open up someone to be dealt for an outfielder...could be a good move

[Tim]

i would take weaver for the cards....that would open up someone to be dealt for an outfielder...could be a good move

Give us Reyes and you can have Jacque Jones!

[stitchface]

i would take weaver for the cards....that would open up someone to be dealt for an outfielder...could be a good move

Give us Reyes and you can have Jacque Jones!

 

hell, don't give us anyone and you can have jones.

[indifferent]

i would take weaver for the cards....that would open up someone to be dealt for an outfielder...could be a good move

Give us Reyes and you can have Jacque Jones!

 

Cards are idiots if they don't have Reyes in the starting rotation. Period.

[Tim]

i would take weaver for the cards....that would open up someone to be dealt for an outfielder...could be a good move

Give us Reyes and you can have Jacque Jones!

 

Cards are idiots if they don't have Reyes in the starting rotation. Period.

IMO, the Cards missed an opportunity to deal Jason Marquis while his perceived value around the league is pretty high. For someone that couldn't even stay in his own team's rotation for the full year, it seems odd that his name was being bandied about in high end deals like it was.

 

Of course, since none of those deals actually happened, perhaps it was more the sportswriters overestimating his value rather than other GM's.

[muntjack]

i would take weaver for the cards....that would open up someone to be dealt for an outfielder...could be a good move

Give us Reyes and you can have Jacque Jones!

 

hell, don't give us anyone and you can have jones.

 

We'll give you a low level prospect, too!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Buster Olney is reporting that Weaver is on the verge of signing with the Angels.

 

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Rumors are flying that Jeff Weaver is on the verge of signing a deal with the Angels, a move which would allow them to shift Hector Carrasco into the bullpen.

[TheDude]

Buster Olney is reporting that Weaver is on the verge of signing with the Angels.

 

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Rumors are flying that Jeff Weaver is on the verge of signing a deal with the Angels, a move which would allow them to shift Hector Carrasco into the bullpen.

 

I don't get it. Why not have just kept Byrd instead?

 

[edit - changed tense to past]

[UK1679666180]

I don't think Anaheim wanted to match that deal Byrd rec'd, which was very lucrative. Despite the season Byrd had, many still question his durability as he probably hasn't been able to stay healthy often enough to merit a long-term deal to some. Weaver has had the track record of staying healthy and will likely rec. a shorter deal with similar or possibly less dollars.

[TheDude]

I don't think Anaheim wanted to match that deal Byrd rec'd, which was very lucrative. Despite the season Byrd had, many still question his durability as he probably hasn't been able to stay healthy often enough to merit a long-term deal to some. Weaver has had the track record of staying healthy and will likely rec. a shorter deal with similar or possibly less dollars.

 

Weaver's deal should best Byrd's deal. Their numbers are nearly identical, with Weaver producing more K's and only a slightly higher ERA. And Weaver has been more durable in his career.

 

I don't see any reason why Weaver wouldn't get at least Byrd's money and years, but logic doesn't always/usually apply in baseball.

[UK1679666180]

I don't think Anaheim wanted to match that deal Byrd rec'd, which was very lucrative. Despite the season Byrd had, many still question his durability as he probably hasn't been able to stay healthy often enough to merit a long-term deal to some. Weaver has had the track record of staying healthy and will likely rec. a shorter deal with similar or possibly less dollars.

 

Weaver's deal should best Byrd's deal. Their numbers are nearly identical, with Weaver producing more K's and only a slightly higher ERA. And Weaver has been more durable in his career.

 

I don't see any reason why Weaver wouldn't get at least Byrd's money and years, but logic doesn't always/usually apply in baseball.

 

Weaver's deal should be greater than Byrd's, but it doesn't appear to be falling into place like that. The Angels right now are the favs to ink him, but the media reports them as only offering a one year deal compared to the 2 that Byrd rec'd. Byrd is slightly over 7 mil per, which could be surpassed by Weaver, but might not be.

 

I agree that I'd rather have Weaver at this stage over Byrd, simply b/c of Byrd's medical history dotted with arm trouble.

[Brendan]

I read somewhere yesterday that Guzman is back to throwing 96-99 mph fastballs ....

 

just outta curiosity, where did you read this? i didn't know he had the ability to hit 99 to begin with. if that's true, this is outstanding.

[JC]

I read somewhere yesterday that Guzman is back to throwing 96-99 mph fastballs ....

 

just outta curiosity, where did you read this? i didn't know he had the ability to hit 99 to begin with. if that's true, this is outstanding.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the "mph" were a misprint and the story really just related that he is throwing between 96-99 pitches in warming up before each inning of his simulated games against Jose Macias and Augie "Boom-Boom" Ojeda.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I read somewhere yesterday that Guzman is back to throwing 96-99 mph fastballs ....

 

just outta curiosity, where did you read this? i didn't know he had the ability to hit 99 to begin with. if that's true, this is outstanding.

 

His fastball was 90-96 mph when healthy. I'd really like for him to be healthy this season. If that happens he'll be in the show.