12/03 College Football

[adamb0719]

Notre Dame got voted anywhere from #3 (Texas A&M coach) to #13 (Spurrier)

 

Check out Larry Blakeny's ballot! WTF?

 

Paterno gets no votes?

 

The USA today only picks 62 coaches. I have no clue what the criteria is. Urban Meyer didn't have a vote, nor did Snyder. Not sure why some get left out.

 

I likes how Rutgers got one top 25 vote, by the Rutgers coach

[adamb0719]

Vince Young to the NFL?

 

In fact, ESPN.com has learned that Young and his family, with one wary eye on the NCAA rules concerning his eligibility and the other on the first round of the '06 NFL draft, have begun to consider potential agents

 

It goes on to say he will be a definate first round choice, and after the bowl game he will look at all of his options.

 

Its an insider article but here is the link

[TruffleShuffle]

Here is the final coaches poll.

 

The only team that ended up in the top 25 that Gary Barnett didn't vote for is Michigan. I recall him disliking Michigan when he was at Northwestern.

 

Spurrier had the highest vote for South Carolina.

 

And, did Mack Brown vote before the SEC & ACC title games? His vote had LSU #6 (versus #10 in the overall coaches poll) and Georgia #12 (#8 overall), and Va Tech #8 (#11 overall) and Florida State unranked (#22 overall). Maybe Mack got the voting done early so he could party Saturday night.

[TruffleShuffle]

Actually there are a fair # of coaches whose votes I don't understand, especially about the ACC/SEC title games. LSU #5 and Georgia #15 according to Frank Solich? Was Georgia's win not convincing enough for him?

[Andy]

Notre Dame got voted anywhere from #3 (Texas A&M coach) to #13 (Spurrier)

 

Check out Larry Blakeny's ballot! WTF?

 

Paterno gets no votes?

 

The USA today only picks 62 coaches. I have no clue what the criteria is. Urban Meyer didn't have a vote, nor did Snyder. Not sure why some get left out.

 

I likes how Rutgers got one top 25 vote, by the Rutgers coach

Mike Bellotti voted Notre Dame 9th and Oregon 4th. That's objective. :roll:

 

EDIT - I laughed out loud when I saw that Ty Willingham did the Oregon 4/ND 9 thing too.

[ConstableRabbit]

HOLY COW WE GOT A CORNERBACK!

 

3-star cover corner Justan Vaughn from Pearland, Texas. He chose us over Texas Tech. It's like Christmas came early for the Wildcats. I didn't think we'd ever be able to land a corner. Lost out on Womack and Dorrestein, but a very good weekend of recruiting for us.

 

Pat Fitzgerald was one heck of a linebacker and now he's one heck of a coach and head recruiter. And hopefully in the not-too-distant future, he'll be one heck of a head coach for Northwestern.

 

Yes, I'm beaming :D

[stuy119]

Does anyone know what kind of bonus Tressel gives the players for making the BCS? :D

 

Ohio State should have played Florida State in the BCS, it could be the battle between Hundred Dollar Handshakes and Free Shoes. Let those teams battle it out for the Dirty Program Championship.

 

Would you prefer to drop the holier-than-thou attitude now, or when JoePa and the Nittany Lions get whipped in Miami? Maybe a slice of humble pie would do those in PA well right now.

[Andy]

Does anyone know what kind of bonus Tressel gives the players for making the BCS? :D

 

Ohio State should have played Florida State in the BCS, it could be the battle between Hundred Dollar Handshakes and Free Shoes. Let those teams battle it out for the Dirty Program Championship.

 

Would you prefer to drop the holier-than-thou attitude now, or when JoePa and the Nittany Lions get whipped in Miami? Maybe a slice of humble pie would do those in PA well right now.

I'd think PSU fans have gotten enough humble pie over the last five years to feed the entire poverty-stricken population of New York City. If they want to gloat, let them. I would too if my team was one fluke play from being unbeaten (rather than two :wink: ).

[TruffleShuffle]

Does anyone know what kind of bonus Tressel gives the players for making the BCS? :D

 

Ohio State should have played Florida State in the BCS, it could be the battle between Hundred Dollar Handshakes and Free Shoes. Let those teams battle it out for the Dirty Program Championship.

 

Would you prefer to drop the holier-than-thou attitude now, or when JoePa and the Nittany Lions get whipped in Miami? Maybe a slice of humble pie would do those in PA well right now.

 

I'm shaking in my winter boots

[SouthSideRyan]

Anyone else notice Mack Brown had Texas #2?

[Andy]

Anyone else notice Mack Brown had Texas #2?

So did many other coaches. Why is that important exactly?

[Careless]

espn story

Basically, bowl eligible teams are more likely to be failing the ncaa's new academic standards. Shocking. No mention of how players not graduationg because they left for a pro job affects the scores. I'd be pretty miffed if my school was penalized for not having enough players graduate if the difference between paassing and failing was players going to the pros early.

[Jon]

HOLY COW WE GOT A CORNERBACK!

 

3-star cover corner Justan Vaughn from Pearland, Texas. He chose us over Texas Tech. It's like Christmas came early for the Wildcats. I didn't think we'd ever be able to land a corner. Lost out on Womack and Dorrestein, but a very good weekend of recruiting for us.

 

Pat Fitzgerald was one heck of a linebacker and now he's one heck of a coach and head recruiter. And hopefully in the not-too-distant future, he'll be one heck of a head coach for Northwestern.

 

Yes, I'm beaming :D

Maybe next year the student section won't have to ask the recruits as they walk by "Can any of you play defensive back?"

[Mark_R]

Jon, don't you represent like half of the student section? ;)

[SouthSideRyan]

Anyone else notice Mack Brown had Texas #2?

So did many other coaches. Why is that important exactly?

 

Cause it seems most coaches place their teams higher than the average?

[Andy]

Anyone else notice Mack Brown had Texas #2?

So did many other coaches. Why is that important exactly?

 

Cause it seems most coaches place their teams higher than the average?

Not if the average is 2.

 

I still can't believe Bellotti and Willingham both ranked the Ducks 4th and ND 9th. In comparison, Weis had the Irish 4th, but ranked Oregon sixth. It seems almost as if Bellotti and Willingham were trying to push Oregon into a BCS bowl somehow.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Anyone else notice Mack Brown had Texas #2?

So did many other coaches. Why is that important exactly?

 

Cause it seems most coaches place their teams higher than the average?

Not if the average is 2.

 

I still can't believe Bellotti and Willingham both ranked the Ducks 4th and ND 9th. In comparison, Weis had the Irish 4th, but ranked Oregon sixth. It seems almost as if Bellotti and Willingham were trying to push Oregon into a BCS bowl somehow.

 

Is putting Oregon 4th really outrageous? They're schedule wasn't garbage, and their only loss was against USC. You're the one that's been saying that you could make a case for all the two loss teams to make a BCS bowl, why not the same here?

[adamb0719]

Anyone else notice Mack Brown had Texas #2?

So did many other coaches. Why is that important exactly?

 

Cause it seems most coaches place their teams higher than the average?

Not if the average is 2.

 

I still can't believe Bellotti and Willingham both ranked the Ducks 4th and ND 9th. In comparison, Weis had the Irish 4th, but ranked Oregon sixth. It seems almost as if Bellotti and Willingham were trying to push Oregon into a BCS bowl somehow.

 

Is putting Oregon 4th really outrageous? They're schedule wasn't garbage, and their only loss was against USC. You're the one that's been saying that you could make a case for all the two loss teams to make a BCS bowl, why not the same here?

 

Oregon's schedule was garbage. I really feel that since you feel so strongly that ND's schedule was garbage, you would probably feel the same about Oregons. I don't want to start another ND schedule debate, but I am just using it as a measure for what you view as a bad schedule. What about Oregons is impressive. Cal? Fresno State? Besides those two I see no argument for any team on it. Also they lost to USC by 32 at home.

 

 

What I was going to post originally was that the ACC could lose their automatic berth per the BCS. It is in the media guide, an adobe file

 

The conferences whose champions have a guaranteed annual berth in one of the BCS bowls are subject to review and possible loss of that guaranteed annual berth should the conference champion not have an average ranking of 12 or higher over a four-year period.

 

 

2002 - 14 - Florida State

2003 - 7 - Florida State

2004 - 8 - Virginia Tech

2005 - 22 - Florida State

 

 

12.75 average.

 

 

Edit: The lines for the rest of the Bowl games are up. Biggest suprise to me, Oregon favored by a field goal against Oklahoma.

[sethuel1]

Does anyone know what kind of bonus Tressel gives the players for making the BCS? :D

 

Ohio State should have played Florida State in the BCS, it could be the battle between Hundred Dollar Handshakes and Free Shoes. Let those teams battle it out for the Dirty Program Championship.

 

Would you prefer to drop the holier-than-thou attitude now, or when JoePa and the Nittany Lions get whipped in Miami? Maybe a slice of humble pie would do those in PA well right now.

 

I'm shaking in my winter boots

 

Which you purchased legally.

[Andy]

Anyone else notice Mack Brown had Texas #2?

So did many other coaches. Why is that important exactly?

 

Cause it seems most coaches place their teams higher than the average?

Not if the average is 2.

 

I still can't believe Bellotti and Willingham both ranked the Ducks 4th and ND 9th. In comparison, Weis had the Irish 4th, but ranked Oregon sixth. It seems almost as if Bellotti and Willingham were trying to push Oregon into a BCS bowl somehow.

 

Is putting Oregon 4th really outrageous? They're schedule wasn't garbage, and their only loss was against USC. You're the one that's been saying that you could make a case for all the two loss teams to make a BCS bowl, why not the same here?

 

Oregon's schedule was garbage. I really feel that since you feel so strongly that ND's schedule was garbage, you would probably feel the same about Oregons. I don't want to start another ND schedule debate, but I am just using it as a measure for what you view as a bad schedule. What about Oregons is impressive. Cal? Fresno State? Besides those two I see no argument for any team on it. Also they lost to USC by 32 at home.

 

 

What I was going to post originally was that the ACC could lose their automatic berth per the BCS. It is in the media guide, an adobe file

 

The conferences whose champions have a guaranteed annual berth in one of the BCS bowls are subject to review and possible loss of that guaranteed annual berth should the conference champion not have an average ranking of 12 or higher over a four-year period.

 

 

2002 - 14 - Florida State

2003 - 7 - Florida State

2004 - 8 - Virginia Tech

2005 - 22 - Florida State

 

 

12.75 average.

 

 

Edit: The lines for the rest of the Bowl games are up. Biggest suprise to me, Oregon favored by a field goal against Oklahoma.

Why are you surprised? I'm not sure any of the general public knows anything about Oregon except that they're 10-1 and that ND "jobbed" them out of a BCS bowl.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Oregon has a weak schedule. But so does ND. and they lost one more game than Oregon. Oregon took care of their inferior opponents, something ND couldn't do against Michigan State.

 

EDIT: Can someone tell me who had a weaker schedule between the two schools?

[Jon]

Oregon has a weak schedule. But so does ND. and they lost one more game than Oregon. Oregon took care of their inferior opponents, something ND couldn't do against Michigan State.

 

EDIT: Can someone tell me who had a weaker schedule between the two schools?

The BCS computer rankings:

 

5. Oregon - .820

6. Virginia Tech - .790

7. Miami - .730

8. Georgia - .720

9. West Virginia - .710

10. Notre Dame - .600

10. LSU - .600

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Can you post a link to that Jon?

[SouthSideRyan]

LINK

[Jon]

Can you post a link to that Jon?

Here ya go: http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/bcs

 

I also found this link. Not sure how reliable it is, though:

http://teamrankings.com/ncf/27powerratings.php3

 

They rank Oregon at 49 and Notre Dame at 53.

 

By the way, look closely at the teams around Northwestern (13). Notice anything other than there are a lot of Big Ten teams up there? They're the only team going to a bowl game out of the top 22.