Trading Wood in the Cubs' best interest?

[The Voice of Reason]

Interesting ideas and perspective.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3835962?print=true

[wekse]

yes, yes!! trade wood now!

[E.J.]

Geez. Not even the media gets it. The man has a no-trade clause. He and his wife love Chicago. He's not going to be traded.

[RynoRules]

I think that the point is well taken, its just a difficult thing to pull off.

 

That said, most thought the same was true about trading Sammy.

[CubinNY]

The article is complete garbage. A waste of bandwidth.

 

On top of that it isn't even factual. Wood will not be the closer when he comes back, at least I haven't read that.

[ironchef21]

I just don't see it. If Wood is always on the DL how much could the Cubs get for him anyways? But if he's healthy why wouldn't the Cubs want to hold on to him? Plus that no-trade clause thingy....

[abuck1220]

it should be easy to trade wood since he doesn't have a no trade clause. great article!

[CubfaninCA]

Most likely he's gone after 2006, so Kerry's wife better find a new city to love asap. Trade him. He's a waste of money.

[Iceblink]

No-trade aside, this would be the point (once he came off the DL) where Kerry would have the least value he's ever had. His contract runs out after next year, correct? If that's the case, the chances for a trade would seem to be much higher once he's nearing leaving and has had a chance to establish some record of clean health (stop laughing). And even then, it would take something unusual given the no-trade.

[katway]

Notwithstanding the no trade clause, Wood has little value and we would have to eat half his contract. (We can't think of it as getting $11 million off the books because no one is assuming that contract.) So, essentially, we would save an estimated $5.5 million if he is traded this offseason. For $5.5 million, I am doubtful that we could get a pitcher with the potential of Kerry Wood, so we should at least keep him and see what happens. Hopefully he can be effective in the bullpen at the very least, that would be worth $5.5 million right there.

[c3ci1]

might be appreciated if the link were edited to not have print=true on the end.

[c3ci1]

The future of the organization is Mark Prior, Carlos Zambrano, Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez and forthcoming talents, including Felix Pie, Angel Guzman and Brian Dopirak — not a fallen, crippled ace who doesn't come close to returning value on the dollar.

 

Hey Perry, I hear Guzman's had a few problems attaining the hurler skill of staying out of Andrew's office as well.[/b]

[CubfaninCA]

Notwithstanding the no trade clause, Wood has little value and we would have to eat half his contract. (We can't think of it as getting $11 million off the books because no one is assuming that contract.) So, essentially, we would save an estimated $5.5 million if he is traded this offseason. For $5.5 million, I am doubtful that we could get a pitcher with the potential of Kerry Wood, so we should at least keep him and see what happens. Hopefully he can be effective in the bullpen at the very least, that would be worth $5.5 million right there.

 

If he looks healthy in spring training, some team will take him w/out the Cubs having to pay any of his salary. I'm just sick of him breaking down 2-3 times per year. Find another sucker.

[erik316wttn]

Geez. Not even the media gets it. The man has a no-trade clause. He and his wife love Chicago. He's not going to be traded.

 

This quote should be in every signature on NSBB in extra-large type until people get the point.

[Suffnekcow]

Geez. Not even the media gets it. The man has a no-trade clause. He and his wife love Chicago. He's not going to be traded.

 

This quote should be in every signature on NSBB in extra-large type until people get the point.

 

No. It shouldn't. The whole "No Trade Clause" thing is more than obnoxious enough already. Everybody has been made well aware of the clause by now numerous times. And still there are more than enough people who are all too eager to point it out yet again anytime anyone intimates that it might, just might not be completely and utterly impossible, barring an act of God himself, to get Hendry, another GM and Wood himself to agree upon a deal.

 

(Because in this particular case nobody has yet been, and nobody's gonna be, challenged for presuming to know what's going on inside the minds of a player and his wife at any given time. Nor will the presumption that Kerry's [already only assumed to be known] position on accepting a trade will, or ever could, change. It's common knowledge. Kerry will never, ever accept a trade under any circumstances and that's all there is to it. Right? Isn't that the prevailing wisdom?)

 

Believe me, there is absolutely no chance the clause won't be mentioned (more than once) each and every time it's even remotely relevant. There's actually less chance of that than there is of Wood accepting a trade. Automating the process would only be taking the fun out of taking an indignant stance re: any and all trade scenarios involving Wood.

[CubfaninCA]

All this stuff about sending Kerry to the pen could be about making him waive the belove no-trade clause. If Kerry wants to start next year, it may have to be on some other team. Hendry may have had enough.

[Jazz]

only trade wood if you get good value...

[Outshined_One]

All this stuff about sending Kerry to the pen could be about making him waive the belove no-trade clause. If Kerry wants to start next year, it may have to be on some other team. Hendry may have had enough.

 

I still think it's a ruse by Jim Hendry to keep teams from bending him over a barrel for middle relief and starting pitching help. Dollars to donuts says that Wood pitches out of the BP in the minors and his shoulder tightens up again, causing him to be shut down and require surgery.

[PackLandVA]

Geez. Not even the media gets it. The man has a no-trade clause. He and his wife love Chicago. He's not going to be traded.

 

This quote should be in every signature on NSBB in extra-large type until people get the point.

 

No. It shouldn't. The whole "No Trade Clause" thing is more than obnoxious enough already. Everybody has been made well aware of the clause by now numerous times. And still there are more than enough people who are all too eager to point it out yet again anytime anyone intimates that it might, just might not be completely and utterly impossible, barring an act of God himself, to get Hendry, another GM and Wood himself to agree upon a deal.

 

(Because in this particular case nobody has yet been, and nobody's gonna be, challenged for presuming to know what's going on inside the minds of a player and his wife at any given time. Nor will the presumption that Kerry's [already only assumed to be known] position on accepting a trade will, or ever could, change. It's common knowledge. Kerry will never, ever accept a trade under any circumstances and that's all there is to it. Right? Isn't that the prevailing wisdom?)

 

Believe me, there is absolutely no chance the clause won't be mentioned (more than once) each and every time it's even remotely relevant. There's actually less chance of that than there is of Wood accepting a trade. Automating the process would only be taking the fun out of taking an indignant stance re: any and all trade scenarios involving Wood.

 

 

That is a very good post. Thank you. I, too, get tired of the "no-trade" clause being brought up every time his name is mentioned here with regard to a trade. I wish the "no trade clause" would be renamed so we can say that Kerry has a "Must Get Kerry's Permission/Approval for a Trade First" clause. Because that's what it really is. And plenty of players with "no trade clauses HAVE been traded in the past.

[CubfaninCA]

Geez. Not even the media gets it. The man has a no-trade clause. He and his wife love Chicago. He's not going to be traded.

 

This quote should be in every signature on NSBB in extra-large type until people get the point.

 

No. It shouldn't. The whole "No Trade Clause" thing is more than obnoxious enough already. Everybody has been made well aware of the clause by now numerous times. And still there are more than enough people who are all too eager to point it out yet again anytime anyone intimates that it might, just might not be completely and utterly impossible, barring an act of God himself, to get Hendry, another GM and Wood himself to agree upon a deal.

 

(Because in this particular case nobody has yet been, and nobody's gonna be, challenged for presuming to know what's going on inside the minds of a player and his wife at any given time. Nor will the presumption that Kerry's [already only assumed to be known] position on accepting a trade will, or ever could, change. It's common knowledge. Kerry will never, ever accept a trade under any circumstances and that's all there is to it. Right? Isn't that the prevailing wisdom?)

 

Believe me, there is absolutely no chance the clause won't be mentioned (more than once) each and every time it's even remotely relevant. There's actually less chance of that than there is of Wood accepting a trade. Automating the process would only be taking the fun out of taking an indignant stance re: any and all trade scenarios involving Wood.

 

 

That is a very good post. Thank you. I, too, get tired of the "no-trade" clause being brought up every time his name is mentioned here with regard to a trade. I wish the "no trade clause" would be renamed so we can say that Kerry has a "Must Get Kerry's Permission/Approval for a Trade First" clause. Because that's what it really is. And plenty of players with "no trade clauses HAVE been traded in the past.

 

But he and his wife have a home in Chicago!!

 

That's one of the most irrelevant lines I hear when trading Kerry comes up. A house is pocket change for some of these guys.

[TXCubsFan]

Get Kerry to have surgery in the offseason. Give him one more season to establish himself as a starter. If that doesn't work, then trade him to a team that needs a closer.

[badger1679666666]

Doesn't Kerry's velocity normally RISE during the game? This guy is a total hack.

[CubFanPhilly]

I'm with TXCubsfan:

 

Shut Wood down and trade him at the deadline next season (that is, if the Cubs believe he's never going to overcome the injuries). If he stays even moderately healthy the first half his value will be immensly higher.

 

Who's going to take on his full salary next year with him on the DL now? No one. The only way you trade him now is if you're convinced his career is over.

 

I'd rather have half a season of even a mediocre Kerry and save half his salary by trading him at the deadline than eat half his '06 salary now just to move him (especially if his contract is insured).

 

CFP

[E.J.]

I'm with TXCubsfan:

 

Shut Wood down and trade him at the deadline next season (that is, if the Cubs believe he's never going to overcome the injuries). If he stays even moderately healthy the first half his value will be immensly higher.

 

Who's going to take on his full salary next year with him on the DL now? No one. The only way you trade him now is if you're convinced his career is over.

 

I'd rather have half a season of even a mediocre Kerry and save half his salary by trading him at the deadline than eat half his '06 salary now just to move him (especially if his contract is insured).

 

CFP

 

NO TRADE CLAUSE!!!

 

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

[CubFanPhilly]

I'm with TXCubsfan:

 

Shut Wood down and trade him at the deadline next season (that is, if the Cubs believe he's never going to overcome the injuries). If he stays even moderately healthy the first half his value will be immensly higher.

 

Who's going to take on his full salary next year with him on the DL now? No one. The only way you trade him now is if you're convinced his career is over.

 

I'd rather have half a season of even a mediocre Kerry and save half his salary by trading him at the deadline than eat half his '06 salary now just to move him (especially if his contract is insured).

 

CFP

 

NO TRADE CLAUSE!!!

 

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

 

1) Secretly cork Kerry's bat.

2) Plant sandpaper in his glove.

3) Roll the clocks on the player parking lot survelliance camera back four hours.

4) Feed a few stories to Paul Sullivan and Phil Rogers about what a prima donna Wood's become.

 

Sorry. Couldn't help myself. :wink:

 

 

 

Kerry's a Cub through 2006 (at least). I'll be hoping for the best.