Wood to miss 1-2 starts (maybe 15-day DL)

[back2backjax]

i have 3 ideas on who should get wood's starts - RICH HILL, RICH HILL or RICH HILL. glendon rusch can't get anyone out these days. it looks like his deal with the devil finally expired. call up hill and give the kid a shot!

[abuck1220]

If it is his mechanics, fix them.

 

oh, man, why hasn't anyone suggested this yet?? brilliant!!

 

 

 

seriously, don't you think that if it was something this simple, they'd have done it by now? and i seriously doubt that wood is enjoying these trips to the DL...i'm sure he's 100 times more frustrated than the fans.

 

of course, no matter how many times a level headed person makes a post like this, there will still be 100 other people who say that wood is a wimp, stubborn, stupid, etc...so why do i bother??

[minnesotacubsfan]

I cant find this 15 day DL anywhere. are we sure he is being put on the DL? I read only 1 missed start...

[CubsFan4Life]

All I've read is 1-2 starts, but Gail Fisher on Comcast said 15-day DL, don't know if that's very credible though.

[JC]

I cant find this 15 day DL anywhere. are we sure he is being put on the DL? I read only 1 missed start...

 

All of the articles I've read this morning indicate he may just miss one start. He pretty much refused an MRI, resigned to the fact that the discomfort was the same that he felt earlier when no structural damage was present. Perhaps an edit in the thread title is in order.

[Warpticon]

Here's an idea. Lets call up Guzman next year. I hear he is recovering well and should be ready. Then we can have Wood start every 10 days and Guzman start every 10 days. It may be the only way for them to be effective for a full season. I know it's a rooster spot, but we already have 12 pitchers anyway and could maybe let Wood and Guzman go a little deeper into the games.

 

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[Wheelimus]

Wood is either going to have to fix things (and if it takes MPH off of his pitches, i'm cool with that, i'd rather have a little more control anyway) or just accept he's going to be pitching with pain for what will likely be a relatively short major league career.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

If it is his mechanics, fix them.

 

oh, man, why hasn't anyone suggested this yet?? brilliant!!

 

 

 

seriously, don't you think that if it was something this simple, they'd have done it by now? and i seriously doubt that wood is enjoying these trips to the DL...i'm sure he's 100 times more frustrated than the fans.

 

of course, no matter how many times a level headed person makes a post like this, there will still be 100 other people who say that wood is a wimp, stubborn, stupid, etc...so why do i bother??

 

it's not a matter of difficulty. any major league caliber pitcher has the ability to change their mechanics. it's a matter of taking the time to fix them and convincing the player to stay with the changes instead of falling back on old habits.

 

why do you bother? i have no idea. maybe you shouldn't. :)

[jyoung55]

I cant find this 15 day DL anywhere. are we sure he is being put on the DL? I read only 1 missed start...

 

All of the articles I've read this morning indicate he may just miss one start. He pretty much refused an MRI, resigned to the fact that the discomfort was the same that he felt earlier when no structural damage was present. Perhaps an edit in the thread title is in order.

 

It says 15 day DL, because we have all seen this before. It starts with just one missed start and turns into a 45 day stint on the DL "recovering" then 3 minor league starts. He should be back in September. :roll:

[PackLandVA]

I would guess Kerry's agent bargained for a no-trade clause for a couple of reasons. One would be that KW likes the franchise and wants to stay in Chicago. Another might be that it gives him the option of not going to a team he doesn't want to. He can essentially pick teams he's willing to be traded to and snub the rest. And a third reason might be that with a no-trade clause, his agent has bargaing power should a trade come up. "KW will accept the trade if XXXX is given (ie.- extension, guaranteed money, etc.)".

 

Randy Johnson and Curt schilling (I think) both had no-trade clauses and surprisingly ( :roll: ) both accepted trades. It does happen. Is it likely....probably not. And the fact that he's been hurt a lot doesn't help. But I don't see why the possibility can't even be explored.

[rocket]

STOP PUTTING OUT TRADE IDEAS.

Stop telling posters to stop suggesting trades. People are entitled to suggest trades regardless of how likely they are.

 

I was implying to not put out Kerry Wood trade ideas. Thanks for chopping out the sentence preceding that.

[AI]

So, why do you believe he wanted a no-trade clause?

 

I by know means am implying that we trade Kerry, but guys often have no-trade clauses added to their contracts to allow them to control their own situation. They do not exist exclusively to prevent a player from leaving an organization, just to prevent him from leaving without consent.

[SCCubbieFAN]

I'm to the point where I don't trust KW any longer. IMO, he is not being completely up front with the extent of his pain/injuries and may be trying to play through his pain.

[AI]

I know this idea is often panned, but would making Kerry a reliever help with his problem? He seems to be able to warm up and go a few innings before the problems occur. I am interested to know how such a move would affect him physically. This is something that, if its going to be done at all, shouldn't be done until the offseason. I am genuinely curious about the feasability of such a transition. I do realize that 12 million is a lot to pay a closer.

[Fro]

The big problem with Wood is he can be wild and it can take him an inning or so to get settled in with his "control", so I don't think he'd have great value as a reliever.

[CubfaninCA]

Just par for the course w/ this guy. He better be making some good investments w/ his money, cause he may never sniff $10 million again after 2006. (I think that's when his contract expires). Maybe someone like the Mets will offer to extend his contract for another season in offseason and the Cubs can deal him for Cliff Floyd. Getting another year added could be a real wise move for Wood considering all his health problems. Perhaps he'd waive the no trade clause then. Hope so.

[RynoRules]

STOP PUTTING OUT TRADE IDEAS.

Stop telling posters to stop suggesting trades. People are entitled to suggest trades regardless of how likely they are.

 

I was implying to not put out Kerry Wood trade ideas. Thanks for chopping out the sentence preceding that.

 

He knew what you meant, but people put out some crazy ideas on this bd. on a daily basis. Why should only the ones involving Wood be banned/stopped? That's a slippery slope you are creating. if you think its pointless to read about trade ideas involving Wood then don't bother responding or looking at threads that deal with them.

 

IMO, in light of what we have seen with other guys w/ NTCs who want out (Schilling, Unit, Sammy, etc.), anything is possible.

[CubfaninCA]

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet he'll miss 4-5 starts minimum. Maybe I'm off on this, but I swear that every time Wood goes down the Cubs lose the next 2 or 3. It is quite a punch to the gut. Wood should give the Trib $8 million of his pay, so the Cubs can sign a future replacement. That's a pretty far cut considering he's earned about $10k this year.

[MadDog07]

In case no one noticed Hill went 4.1 allowing six runs and striking out 3 the other night.

 

 

If you ask me, we're still in playoff contention. I think Hill's got a major-league curveball and had a few good innings up here, but I don't want an experiment-player for 5 starts if we're contending...I'd rather let Mitre get back out there, because he's young, but we've seen what he's capable of already.

[Mark_R]

STOP PUTTING OUT TRADE IDEAS.

Stop telling posters to stop suggesting trades. People are entitled to suggest trades regardless of how likely they are.

 

I was implying to not put out Kerry Wood trade ideas. Thanks for chopping out the sentence preceding that.

 

He knew what you meant, but people put out some crazy ideas on this bd. on a daily basis. Why should only the ones involving Wood be banned/stopped? That's a slippery slope you are creating. if you think its pointless to read about trade ideas involving Wood then don't bother responding or looking at threads that deal with them.

 

IMO, in light of what we have seen with other guys w/ NTCs who want out (Schilling, Unit, Sammy, etc.), anything is possible.

 

Absolutely right, if you don't to read about Kerry Wood trade scenarios, don't read them.

[rocket]

 

Absolutely right, if you don't to read about Kerry Wood trade scenarios, don't read them.

 

Then perhaps people shouldn't put Kerry Wood trade scenarios in threads titled "Kerry Wood to miss 1-2 starts."

[abuck1220]

In case no one noticed Hill went 4.1 allowing six runs and striking out 3 the other night.

 

 

If you ask me, we're still in playoff contention. I think Hill's got a major-league curveball and had a few good innings up here, but I don't want an experiment-player for 5 starts if we're contending...I'd rather let Mitre get back out there, because he's young, but we've seen what he's capable of already.

 

which is exactly why i'd rather see hill out there. i've seen what mitre's capable of...and i'm not impressed.

 

hill had a rough outing the other night, but before that he'd rattled off quite a few great starts in a row.

[NCCubFan]

 

Absolutely right, if you don't to read about Kerry Wood trade scenarios, don't read them.

 

Then perhaps people shouldn't put Kerry Wood trade scenarios in threads titled "Kerry Wood to miss 1-2 starts."

I agree they would be more appropriate for the Transactions forum, but it's a natural extension of the subject of this thread for somebody to be frustrated over him missing more time and suggesting it's time to trade him. I don't think it's likely that he'll be traded, and I hope he isn't, but others are certainly welcome to suggest that they think he should be traded.

[Blueheart05]

In case no one noticed Hill went 4.1 allowing six runs and striking out 3 the other night.

 

Yes but an article at Cubs.com says the team is considering bringing him up or letting Glendon pitch. It's not uncommon for pitchers to do some work 2-3 days before an outting. He maybe available depending on the number of pitches he through in 4.1

 

The Cubs are considering either Glendon Rusch or Minor League lefty Rich Hill for the game against the San Francisco Giants. Rusch is 3-3 with a 3.32 ERA in 10 starts this year, and made his last start for the Cubs on June 23.

 

 

 

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050723&content_id=1141821&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

[Brian]

In case no one noticed Hill went 4.1 allowing six runs and striking out 3 the other night.

 

Yes but an article at Cubs.com says the team is considering bringing him up or letting Glendon pitch. It's not uncommon for pitchers to do some work 2-3 days before an outting. He maybe available depending on the number of pitches he through in 4.1

 

It's not the when, because he pitched on the same day Wood did, say he's on the right rest, it's the crappyness of the outing that is in question. I still want to see Hill get the start though.