Nationals (Irvin) vs Cubs (Assad): 9/5/25, 1:20pm

[Geographyhater8888]

13 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

Win number 81 means the Cubs have finished at .500 or better 9 times in the last 11 years. And obviously the next win will make it “over .500” 9 of last 11 years

Say what you want about Tom but this is the mostly competently ran organization not only in Chicago but really in the history of the Cubs, at least post integration. 

[Geographyhater8888]

12 hours ago, Outshined_One said:

Remember when they went roughly 30 years between back to back winning seasons?

03-04, 07-09, 15-20, and now 23-25. Now 4X in 22+ seasons including 15 winning seasons since 2001 and potentially 6 seasons of over 90 wins since 08.

Edited September 6, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[Geographyhater8888]

12 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

Even if the IL him I would guess Cassie doesn’t get much playing time. I would guess you would see Santana as DH or Castro play some. Maybe Cassie get a start, but he isn’t a sure start, IMO. 

They’ll probably start him vs pitchers he matches up well against. Much like Shaw. Is he that raw where he’s a liability with too many at bats?

Edited September 6, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

[Geographyhater8888]

Cubs catchers have combined for 26 home runs. If they reach 30 it’ll be the second time since 2016 from the combined efforts of Contreras/Miggy/Ross, albeit Contreras hit a couple in his starts in left field.

[CubinNY]

17 hours ago, squally1313 said:

Good point on the directional thing, so the implication for a team that might be expected to consistently underperform would be a team full of players who generally go back up the middle?

Fair point but one that hasn't really been borne out in recent data. Below starts in 2025 and then goes back in time. 

It’s measurement error. It’s baked into the process. These data aren’t precise indicators, they are general tendencies based on measurement of central tendency, which masks variability. 
 

Any time you are talking about what “should” happen and start factoring important things out, like defense and park factors. You are going to create measurement error. It doesn’t mean the data are bad or useless, it means that people should not use the data as an absolute measure.  Because defense and park factors always matter because they are real things that effect the outcome of an AB. 
 

[squally1313]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

It’s measurement error. It’s baked into the process. These data aren’t precise indicators, they are general tendencies based on measurement of central tendency, which masks variability. 
 

Any time you are talking about what “should” happen and start factoring important things out, like defense and park factors. You are going to create measurement error. It doesn’t mean the data are bad or useless, it means that people should not use the data as an absolute measure.  Because defense and park factors always matter because they are real things that effect the outcome of an AB. 
 

Jesus christ

[Stratos]

3 hours ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Say what you want about Tom but this is the mostly competently ran organization not only in Chicago but really in the history of the Cubs, at least post integration. 

Incredibly low bar though.  Playoffs in just 5 of 15 seasons in the 2nd easiest division in baseball with mostly unbalanced schedules, and 2018 barely counts.

[Rcal10]

6 minutes ago, Stratos said:

Incredibly low bar though.  Playoffs in just 5 of 15 seasons in the 2nd easiest division in baseball with mostly unbalanced schedules, and 2018 barely counts.

They won 95 games in 2018. Tied for the most in the NL. It counts. They just didn’t hit in either playoff game. Brewers won the last 8 to tie the Cubs who went 5-3 in their last 8. 

[Bertz]

9 minutes ago, Stratos said:

Incredibly low bar though.  Playoffs in just 5 of 15 seasons in the 2nd easiest division in baseball with mostly unbalanced schedules, and 2018 barely counts.

This is really stupid

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Yes, 2018 was indeed stupid.

[Geographyhater8888]

46 minutes ago, Stratos said:

Incredibly low bar though.  Playoffs in just 5 of 15 seasons in the 2nd easiest division in baseball with mostly unbalanced schedules, and 2018 barely counts.

That’s why I prefaced my statement. 95 wins was the second best record in the NL that year too. Don’t know how that doesn’t count. 

[Stratos]

59 minutes ago, Bertz said:

This is really stupid

You can disagree with someone without calling their opinions stupid.  You also called the forum community as a whole here stupid a couple of weeks ago.  It creates unnecessarily toxicity on the board.

[Bertz]

8 minutes ago, Stratos said:

You can disagree with someone without calling their opinions stupid.  You also called the forum community as a whole here stupid a couple of weeks ago.  It creates unnecessarily toxicity on the board.

 I called this fanbase stupid when they gleefully began ripping Tucker for slumping.  If you felt personally called out by that that's you telling on yourself.  Because *that* was incredibly stupid and to borrow a phrase toxic behavior.  

[Stratos]

2 hours ago, Bertz said:

 I called this fanbase stupid when they gleefully began ripping Tucker for slumping.  If you felt personally called out by that that's you telling on yourself.  Because *that* was incredibly stupid and to borrow a phrase toxic behavior.  

I was never on any Tucker hate-train, or Swanson or Happ.. Here's what I'm talking about:

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On 8/22/2025 at 12:54 PM, Bertz said:

I was about to write something about Bellinger's home/road numbers but again this fanbase can't even process the impacts of the wind blowing in at Wrigley so what's the point.

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On 8/22/2025 at 9:57 AM, Bertz said:

I mean look how Swanson has been treated even with the bag already in hand.

It's just a dumb horsefeathers fanbase

 

On 8/21/2025 at 10:47 PM, Bertz said:

 I called this fanbase stupid when they gleefully began ripping Tucker for slumping.  If you felt personally called out by that that's you telling on yourself.  Because *that* was incredibly stupid and to borrow a phrase toxic behavior.  

So fans are jerks because they rip on players (ok maybe?) but it's totally fine for you to call fans dumb and their opinions "stupid" and get otherwise aggressive and rude when people disagree with you?

I think most of your posts are idiotic. Actually I dont believe that at all, I like a lot of your posts.  But how did that make you feel?

[javy knows my name]

6 hours ago, CubinNY said:

It’s measurement error. It’s baked into the process. These data aren’t precise indicators, they are general tendencies based on measurement of central tendency, which masks variability. 
 

Any time you are talking about what “should” happen and start factoring important things out, like defense and park factors. You are going to create measurement error. It doesn’t mean the data are bad or useless, it means that people should not use the data as an absolute measure.  Because defense and park factors always matter because they are real things that effect the outcome of an AB. 
 

Everything you've mentioned is accounted for in every metric where's there's an "x" in front of it. If you'd care to learn 

[javy knows my name]

25 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I was never on any Tucker hate-train, or Swanson or Happ.. Here's what I'm talking about:

So fans are jerks because they rip on players (ok maybe?) but it's totally fine for you to call fans dumb and their opinions "stupid" and get otherwise aggressive and rude when people disagree with you?

I think most of your posts are idiotic. Actually I dont believe that at all, I like a lot of your posts.  But how did that make you feel?

You didn't really sell that one

Calling the Cubs "fanbase" stupid as a monolith is very much not the same thing as calling nsbb contributors stupid. You've been around long enough to feel that, I think 

[Bertz]

57 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I was never on any Tucker hate-train, or Swanson or Happ.. Here's what I'm talking about:

So fans are jerks because they rip on players (ok maybe?) but it's totally fine for you to call fans dumb and their opinions "stupid" and get otherwise aggressive and rude when people disagree with you?

I think most of your posts are idiotic. Actually I dont believe that at all, I like a lot of your posts.  But how did that make you feel?

This fanbase is absolutely dumb, petulant, and entitled.  I feel completely comfortable saying that, and do so with regularity.  This board is the best subset of the community I've found online (hence me being here and quite active), but it's not my only contact with other fans and also not immune to some of the broader fanbase's brainworms (hence the tagline under old ownership of "least terrible Cubs community on the internet").

I think too, if you any sort of regular online presence anywhere you're going to fire off some takes that are duds (like say, today's game being a really advantageous matchup).  And if those takes are spicy enough sometimes they're going to draw some pushback.  That's the nature of an online community.  If you think what I said was out of pocket the social forum here will make you gouge your eyes out.

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, Bertz said:

This fanbase is absolutely dumb, petulant, and entitled.  I feel completely comfortable saying that, and do so with regularity.  This board is the best subset of the community I've found online (hence me being here and quite active), but it's not my only contact with other fans and also not immune to some of the broader fanbase's brainworms (hence the tagline under old ownership of "least terrible Cubs community on the internet").

I think too, if you any sort of regular online presence anywhere you're going to fire off some takes that are duds (like say, today's game being a really advantageous matchup).  And if those takes are spicy enough sometimes they're going to draw some pushback.  That's the nature of an online community.  If you think what I said was out of pocket the social forum here will make you gouge your eyes out.

I don't really care if you or anyone calls the Cubs or any fanbase stupid.  I just took exception when you said you weren't going to post stats on this forum because of it, implying that the posters here are also stupid.  If you meant it more as a facetious point about the fanbase broadly and not the members here specifically then that's fine.  I also took exception to you calling my point "stupid".   If you disagreed that's obviously fine but there's friendlier ways to express that.  I'm genuinely not trying to pick a fight with you and would prefer no bad blood if that can be avoided.